India-China 2020 Border conflict

[BabaKhalbali]

PLA from start made it clear that it will not talk about depsang plains...in every meeting the talks were about pangong north and south bank....only now we exchanged the kailash ranges advantages for pangong north bank disengagement.

PLA can make whatsoever they want clear, but is IA/GoI going to listen to those pus&ies after what happened in Galwan where they broke all such agreements.

 

[ezsasa]

All the videos released in China now were happened in June and July last year. Including the transportation of 20 bodies and separate burials, all happened in June and July last year, not recently.
China has been saying that PLA have casualties, but now can not disclose the number and specific list.

For example, I found a random news last June.
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2020年6月15日，中印边境冲突，印方20人死亡，中方有无伤亡？ - 邮轮会

关于中印边防人员在中印边境加勒万河谷地区的冲突，印方刚开始说有3人死亡，后来又说有17名士兵受重伤，因高寒环境不治而亡。看来，印方死了20人应该是真的。至于中方死了多少人，无论西部战区新闻发言人对外发表声明，还是外交部发言人回应中印边防冲突，抑

www.111.hk.cn

It says，Select a few passages to translate

Regarding the conflict between Chinese and Indian border guards in the Kalwan River Valley area on the Sino-Indian border, the Indian side said at first that 3 people were killed, and later it said that 17 soldiers were seriously injured and died due to the high cold environment. It seems that it is true that 20 people died in India.
Why has China not announced the casualties? Are there any casualties? Hu Xijin analyzed it like this: "The Chinese side has not announced the number of casualties of PLA soldiers in physical conflicts with Indian soldiers. I understand that China does not want the people of the two countries to compare the numbers of casualties on both sides, so as to stimulate the public sentiment of the two countries. Beijing’s goodwill.” At the same time, Hu Xijin told netizens, please trust our government and the PLA’s ability to handle border issues.
Don't listen to any rumors about our casualties from abroad. Hu Xijin spoke very well and analyzed thoroughly.
Hu Xijin: The Chinese people are very concerned about the casualties of the Chinese soldiers in the physical clashes with the Indian troops in the Galvan Valley. The Indian media are also very concerned about them. There are also Indian counterparts who have asked Lao Hu in private. So why didn't the Chinese side make it public? Lao Hu sent a tweet last night and talked about my understanding. Here's what I wrote: "China has not released the number of casualties of PLA soldiers in physical clashes with Indian soldiers. I understand that China does not want to stimulate public emotions in both countries by comparing the number of casualties between the two countries.". "This is the goodwill of Beijing."

On June 16, Hu Xijin, editor-in-chief of the Global Times, commented on the incident, saying that "informed sources" revealed that not only India had casualties, but also Chinese soldiers had casualties, but the specific facts still need to be officially reported.

Only thing that has changed since then till now is that USA got a new president.
Xi must have taken permission from USA to end the standoff, and Biden approved the request.

 

[sunshine]

Only thing that has changed since then till now is that USA got a new president.
Xi must have taken permission from USA to end the standoff, and Biden approved the request.

There are also people in China who believe that last year Trump should have pushed the Indian military to warm up the border between China and India, and that the impetus did not exist after the change of the president of the United States. Many Chinese also believe that there is an American shadow behind it.

 

[ezsasa]

There are also people in China who believe that last year Trump should have pushed the Indian military to warm up the border between China and India, and that the impetus did not exist after the change of the president of the United States. Many Chinese also believe that there is an American shadow behind it.

Those people in china probably do not read world politics, Trump is the most anti-war president that U.S has had in decades. Even against CCP he used trade as a weapon, not military.

 

[sunshine]

Those people in china probably do not read world politics, Trump is the most anti-war president that U.S has had in decades. Even against CCP he used trade as a weapon, not military.

Trump is opposed to the US military's participation in the war, and he will be very happy if India.

 

[ezsasa]

Trump is opposed to the US military's participation in the war, and he will be very happy if India.

How does that even make sense?
if CCP goes to war, U.S & European economy will collapse for that period of time. americans and europeans are not as stupid as you think.

 

[HindaviSwarajya]

Trump is opposed to the US military's participation in the war, and he will be very happy if India.

We would have attacked pak in 2019. Trump asked for restrain but pakis knew what was coming and even trump said another terrorist attack and he can't prevent war. So yeah we showed restraint else your lapdog would not exist by now. Point being trump is anti war. All these are your propoganda

 

[DerBronzeLord]

 

[sunshine]

We would have attacked pak in 2019. Trump asked for restrain but pakis knew what was coming and even trump said another terrorist attack and he can't prevent war. So yeah we showed restraint else your lapdog would not exist by now. Point being trump is anti war. All these are your propoganda

Pakistan's conventional military power is no longer India's opponent, but India does not dare to force Pakistan too hard, because Pakistan has nuclear weapons.
I see that recently, there was news in Pakistan that the people of the entire Kashmir region would be allowed to vote on independence.

 

[Suhaldev]

Pakistan's conventional military power is no longer India's opponent, but India does not dare to force Pakistan too hard, because Pakistan has nuclear weapons.
I see that recently, there was news in Pakistan that the people of the entire Kashmir region would be allowed to vote on independence.

Diversify your news sources.

 

[Jaymax61]

Pakistan's conventional military power is no longer India's opponent, but India does not dare to force Pakistan too hard, because Pakistan has nuclear weapons.
I see that recently, there was news in Pakistan that the people of the entire Kashmir region would be allowed to vote on independence.

Ahhh ... the iron clad source of truth - Pak media. By that logic, a local cable tv aired a news piece before the 9 PM hindi movie claiming Taiwan was most likely going to vote for independence.

Actually India did cross Pak's red lines twice in 2019. All Pak did was press conferences with poorly made ppts.

 

[HindaviSwarajya]

Pakistan's conventional military power is no longer India's opponent, but India does not dare to force Pakistan too hard, because Pakistan has nuclear weapons.
I see that recently, there was news in Pakistan that the people of the entire Kashmir region would be allowed to vote on independence.

Pakis talk bullshit and our conventional power itself will take out most of their nukes and we had called their nuclear bluff back in 2019 . How its for you to figure out and we do not want to derail this thread. PoK is our terrirory and one day we will take it back with that your CheePEC is gone.

 

[sunshine]

I've heard that before.

Pakistan would give Kashmiris ‘right to independence’

PM Khan said he is willing to allow Kashmiris full right to self-determination even if they vote to stay with Pakistan.

www.google.com

I don't think India would agree, but India have to find a good reason, because India's strength can be slowly brought back Kashmiri.

 

[ninja hattori]

So the secret is out in open.

 

[Jaymax61]

I don't think India would agree, but India have to find a good reason, because India's strength can be slowly brought back Kashmiri.

 

[ThE BrOkEn HeArT]

So the secret is out in open.

China is new USSR. China is feeling the heat of Quad.

 

[ezsasa]

So the secret is out in open.

gotta learn from them, look how the messaging comes in waves and always on point with co-ordination by their bots.

 

[Romediablo]

Whats done is done public wont forgive even if govt takes a U turn

 

[Cheran]

So the secret is out in open.

CCP needs to tone down it's aggressive military spending, withdraw troops from the Himalayan border.

CCP needs to make peace with nations rather than claiming huge chunks of ocean as theirs & building military islands.

CCP should change it's medieval expansionist mindset, become more accommodating, tone down it's aggressive jingoistic nationalism else it has only itself for what is coming.

Above was stated by experts at DFI.

 

[Romediablo]

gotta learn from them, look how the messaging comes in waves and always on point with co-ordination by their bots.

They have "har marz ki dawa" always ready