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Chinese defence minister 'snubbed' by Nepal and Bangladesh

China wanted to have a bilateral with the Nepal Defence minister who happens to be the PM KPS Oli. This was declined under the protocol.
What he eventually got was a courtesy call.
Next China proposed a meeting with Dy PM (the Defence minister before Oli took charge from him) Ishwor Pokharel, that too was declined.
Finally, Wei had to settle with the bilateral with the Nepali Army Chief PC Thapa. Under international protocols considered to be a step-down.
Sources confirm that the Chinese embassy in Nepal had planned a lunch in which all the former Foreign Ministers and Defence Ministers of Nepal were to be invited. But after reservation expressed by the Nepal government, this too was stalled.

hehe chinese ..PhotoOp plan backfired..


What does the chinese clown think themselves as ..no wonder they are called clowns by other diplomats..
chinese clowns doesnt know the protocols...eediats...
anyway nice humiliation.
 
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Tell the Chinaman to stick all those models up his Khyber Pass.

To get to Australia he will have to go through the baddest NAVY in history.

These three carrier battle groups are enough for the entire PLAN - and this is only a fraction of them.


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Australia Navy does not have to increase the no of ships to rekt the Chinese, although it would be appreciable if they did.

China has to combat woth SoKo, Japan, USN, Indonesia, Vietnam, Philippines, Australia and India.

The two biggest Behmoth are USN and Indian Navy.

If we could revolutionise our ship industry than we could pummel the Chinese on our own.

Things that are wrong with Indian marintime legacy.

- General Economy.
- Underdeveloped Ports.
- Indigenous innovative culture
- Lack of Private sector in Shipbuilding
- Inefficiency in Both Public and Private Shipyard, GRSE and MDL are doing good but they will face the hurdle of a typical gov run organisation.
- Lack of strategic partnership.
- Lack of proper planning
- Lack of funding.
 

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Australia Navy does not have to increase the no of ships to rekt the Chinese, although it would be appreciable if they did.

China has to combat woth SoKo, Japan, USN, Indonesia, Vietnam, Philippines, Australia and India.

The two biggest Behmoth are USN and Indian Navy.

If we could revolutionise our ship industry than we could pummel the Chinese on our own.

Things that are wrong with Indian marintime legacy.

- General Economy.
- Underdeveloped Ports. .
- Indigenous innovative culture
- Lack of Private sector in Shipbuilding
- Inefficiency in Both Public and Private Shipyard, GRSE and MDL are doing good but they will face the hurdle of a typical gov run organisation.
- Lack of strategic partnership.
- Lack of proper planning
- Lack of funding.
Good observation. I would add a few--



1. Specialist shipyards for infrastructure augmentation and more professional management and project execution. Current process is kinda vague and leads to asset duplication.


. Involvement of IN, NDB, DRDO and MoD right from the planning phase to avoid the fiasco we suffered in Vikrant.
 
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We better master this technology of landing quickly. When is Chandrayaan 3 scheduled to land with the rover? Now the Chongs have beaten us to it. The race is on. Let's go, ISRO. Stop launching the PSLVs - give them to private enterprise to launch. Let's get onto big projects - human in space, moon landing, mars landing, rover technology, reusable space launch vehicles etc.
Chong's failed in their Mars orbiter they lost the race.
 

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China’s Carrier-Based Fighter Jets Keep Crashing And Burning

The J-15—which is an unlicensed Chinese development based on a T-10K-3 prototype of the Russian Su-33 Flanker-D—has proven to be a disappointment in service with the People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN). The navalized Chinese Flanker derivative has suffered a number of high-profile crashes due to technical issues with the aircraft’s engines and flight control system.

The J-15’s problems are apparently serious enough that Beijing is embarking on the development of a new carrier-based aircraft that would take the J-15’s place in China’s nascent carrier air wings.

A “new carrier-based fighter to replace the J-15” is being developed, Lt. Gen. Zhang Honghe, deputy head of the PLA Air Force, told the South China Morning Post.

It is unclear what the J-15’s successor will look like, but whatever aircraft Beijing develops will have to be able to operate from the ski-jump configured flight decks of theType 001 and Type 001A carriers —which are developments of the Soviet Kuznetsov-class —as well as the forthcoming Type 002, which is reportedly going to be outfitted with electromagnetic aircraft launch system (EMALS).

Chinese naval analysts have suggested that Beijing might develop a naval variant of the FC-31 Gyrfalcon, which is a “privately-funded” development of the state-owned Shenyang Aircraft Corporation.

However, there is no official confirmation from Beijing on what a J-15 replacement might look like.

The impetus for doing away with the J-15 stems from a series of four serious accidents suffered by the type.

According to the SCMP, there have been at least four J-15 crashes that have resulted in at least one fatality and one case of serious injury due to what has been described as a series of “unpardonable mechanical failures.”

The technical problems seem to be traceable to the J-15’s indigenously developed engines and flight control system.

“The J-15 is a problematic aircraft – its unstable flight control system was the key factor behind the two fatal accidents two years ago,” a source told the SCMP.

Indeed, during two of the incidents which resulted in J-15 crashes, the SCMP said the “flight control system was breaking down” on approach to the runway during Field Carrier Landing Practices (FCLP). That might suggest the J-15’s flight control laws are vulnerable to pilot induced oscillations or any number of other problems.

Additionally, it is not clear how reliable the J-15’s indigenous Shenyang Liming WS-10H engines are and if they played a factor in these crashes. Older versions of the J-15 were powered by the Russian Salyut AL-31F engines, which are more or less reliable.

The Chinese apparently were well aware of problems with the J-15 but pressed ahead with deploying the jet operationally regardless of the risk, which highlights a culture that is markedly different from the U.S. Navy.

Indeed, while the U.S. Navy will fly an aircraft with restrictions for problems that have emerged once a type has entered service, the Pentagon would not normally declare an aircraft operational if it is known to have serious safety issues.

“Of course it’s impossible to prevent any accident from ever happening during training,” a PLAN veteran told the SCMP.

“But unlike their counterparts in Western countries, Chinese air force pilots are asked to work around these mechanical errors.”

The PLAN also seems to have been in a state of denial about the extent of the J-15’s problems even after at least one naval aviator was killed in a crash (though that is often a problem with military services around the world).

“Aviation experts at first refused to acknowledge that the J-15 has design problems,” a source told the SCMP.

“They only agreed there were problems after Cao [Xianjian, a highly experienced naval aviator] encountered the same trouble.”

That the J-15 has serious design flaws should come as no surprise.

At the end of the day, the Chinese reverse engineered the J-15 design from an incomplete prototype of the Sukhoi Su-33 that it acquired from Ukraine. While Chinese engineers might have gained considerable insight into the Flanker design from the T-10K-3 and other Su-27 derivatives in Beijing’s possession, because they did not develop the jet or its systems, they do not fully understand the airframe due to some of the traditional limitations inherent to reverse engineering. These gaps in knowledge probably led to some of the problems the Chinese are now encountering with the J-15 design.
 
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Australia Navy does not have to increase the no of ships to rekt the Chinese, although it would be appreciable if they did.

China has to combat woth SoKo, Japan, USN, Indonesia, Vietnam, Philippines, Australia and India.

The two biggest Behmoth are USN and Indian Navy.

If we could revolutionise our ship industry than we could pummel the Chinese on our own.

Things that are wrong with Indian marintime legacy.

- General Economy.
- Underdeveloped Ports.
- Indigenous innovative culture
- Lack of Private sector in Shipbuilding
- Inefficiency in Both Public and Private Shipyard, GRSE and MDL are doing good but they will face the hurdle of a typical gov run organisation.
- Lack of strategic partnership.
- Lack of proper planning
- Lack of funding.
Indeed, the Indian Navy firstly needs to stop building only 3-4 vessels per class. The Navy needs to settle for a single class and build 10-15 ships per class, be it a destroyer, frigate, corvette. We need to bulk up on numbers. The private sector biggies like L&T, if given the opportunity, can roll out a destroyer/frigate every 2-3 years given the purchase of long lead items happens on time.
 

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Indeed, the Indian Navy firstly needs to stop building only 3-4 vessels per class. The Navy needs to settle for a single class and build 10-15 ships per class, be it a destroyer, frigate, corvette. We need to bulk up on numbers. The private sector biggies like L&T, if given the opportunity, can roll out a destroyer/frigate every 2-3 years given the purchase of long lead items happens on time.
where’s the money for it?
 

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where’s the money for it?
Cut down on some Social schemes here and there no one will notice.

Suppose the Gram panchyat vikas Yojna scheme in crores from 2015 to 2020 gets 10% hike evey year.

5000, 5500, 6050, 6665, 7330

Slash it down to 6% now for 2020 to 2025

7330, 7769, 8235, 8729, 9252

On paper it's still increasing but rate has decreased and hence gov saving money without getting much flak.

Second give contact to private firm and guarteee them orders and reinvestment.
Private firms have their own bank balance but they won't invest until they have guarantee.
 
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