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Alexa uses Bing as search engine.
Bing shows the correct country.
It shows Indian Subcontinent not specifically India... Also look how they had to show both UAR & TAR as parts of China in brackets... India needs to get more strict on this.
 

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@shade I don't know what the f*ck is wrong with people and specially with our media.

It's just plain and simple trash talking which is only applicable on a stage or a podium.

Does our own politicians don't do this??? Hell yeah!!! They do. And they are even more brutal. Then why make fuss about a statement which is made by an another country's politician in the first place??

And Trump is bhau is far far better then the former US presidents. They sweet talked with India and gave money & arms to Pakistan. They forced sanctions after our nuclear tests and gave China a full okay to go with it's own program, which is not even a democracy.

So what? Trump bhau uses the filth word? And so what South, East and even West India are not like North India in terms of pollution. The truth is Delhi is our NCR and it is toxic. A little bit of tighter H1b visa, along with these every now & then odd words which are for the time being actually. Doesn't change the fact that Trump bhau is in India's best interest in majority of the venues.

@pinakaTHEbow LOL ... Have you forgotten WW2, the pearl harbor bombing??? Atomic explosions and all...

If US has no ties and no interest in or out of Pakistan. Then I can assure you. The porkis atomic bomb won't be able to do a scratch but they will be torn out of existence.
 

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Apparently Ching chongs run FB's content moderation team + write algorithms to filter/autoban "hate speech"
 
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Apparently Ching chongs run FB's content moderation team + write algorithms to filter/autoban "hate speech"
These dirty commies have infiltrated a lot of media/social media and internet.
Twitter is another one where they censor any anti chinese views.
 
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Oh btw they have chosen Chinks to write "filter" hate speech because it's basically censorship, and chinks are pro at it, the Great Firewall/Golden Shield is a wonder
They use to cyberattack lot of forums where any anti chinese views existed even here.
But we have secured ourselves against these dirty yellow mongrels.
 

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They use to cyberattack lot of forums where any anti chinese views existed even here.
But we have secured ourselves against these dirty yellow mongrels.
Would be good if mods share details of measures they took to secure DFI.

Was managing a webapp and a couple of websites some years back which used to take co-ordinated script hits from IP's originating in China and Hong Kong. Finally blocked the entire Chinese, HK and Taiwan IP range. When you can't beat them, at least raise the costs. What followed next were the odd hits from VPNs in Singapore.

Never got hacked though.. yeah... took some luck and some skill.
 
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Would be good if mods share details of measures they took to secure DFI.

Was managing a webapp and a couple of websites some years back which used to take co-ordinated script hits from IP's originating in China and Hong Kong. Finally blocked the entire Chinese, HK and Taiwan IP range. When you can't beat them, at least raise the costs. What followed next were the odd hits from VPNs in Singapore.

Never got hacked though.. yeah... took some luck and some skill.
rather not doscuss in public, PM me.
 

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LOL.. sounds like an Alexa hack. Most likelihood this is the work of a script kiddie.
Tomorrow the same "script kiddie" excuse will be given when Alexa says :

Arunachal is not part of india or
Pakistan never lost a war or
Indira Gandhi never imposed emergency or
India was secular by constitution since 1947 or
Jallianwala bagh never happened or
British were benevolent rulers or
1947 genocide of Kashmiris never happened etc etc..

The list goes on.. Not saying this is what is happening, we don't know until we check and constantly re-check the same information at regular interval.
We don't know what other misinfo is being regurgitated by this machine.



The point here is, If we are not in control of our own story, someone else will write it for you, and then don't expect the story be nice to you.
 
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China builds new structures near LAC, relocates troops. India reads a message

China has deployed counter-space jammers 60 km from LAC in Arunachal Pradesh so that PLA activity is not picked up by an adversary through satellites

Even as India and China discuss disengagement from friction points in Ladakh at the military-diplomatic talks, the People’s Liberation Army is constructing new structures and relocating troops and equipment to occupied Aksai Chin in Tibet as well as Xinjiang with no intention of backing off from the 1,597 km of Line of Actual Control (LAC) in Ladakh at least this winter.

Senior military officials said they had noticed construction of a huge structure spread across 3 lakh square feet - almost the size of four football fields - has been noticed around 10 kilometres from the LAC in occupied Aksai Chin across Gogra-Hot Springs area.

According to a retired army chief, the humongous facility could be used for housing troops, artillery, rocket regiments and tanks as the barrels of tanks and guns are known to freeze and go brittle in sub-polar conditions. Given that the structure is very close to the LAC, it could also be used for setting up hospital facilities to treat PLA troops suffering from acute mountain sickness and high-altitude pulmonary edema. Both can prove fatal if not treated properly.

New deployment of vehicles and equipment under camouflage has also been picked up in Xinjiang, 82 kilometres from the LAC.

The Indian side has also spotted relocation of troops and equipment around a PLA camp 92 kilometres inside Aksai Chin and movement of a large number of PLA vehicles in the Tibet region across Ladakh’s Demchok. It is also very clear that PLA intelligence is watching the Galwan region and the Kongka La area from positions 8 to 20 km from the LAC in Aksai Chin.

The PLA is building a new road between Hotan and Kanxiwar in Xinjiang, some 166 km from the India-China border to provide an alternative route to Aksai Chin for the troops and equipment. The Chinese air supplies for the LAC stand-off are getting dropped off at the Hotan air base, 320 km from LAC as the crow flies, through Y-20 planes, widely acknowledged to be a copy of Russian IL-76 transport aircraft.

The PLA activity is not limited to Ladakh. Some 60 km from the LAC in Arunachal Pradesh, people familiar with the matter said, counter-space jammers had been deployed to ensure that PLA activity is not picked up by an adversary through satellites. It is understood that PLA has deployed Russian S-400 missile systems in depth areas around Nyingchi city across Arunachal Pradesh to cater to any aerial threat.

The net assessment of PLA posture is that China is consolidating its positions with bases and storage depots being set up in Golmud, which is connected to Lhasa through trains with a dual use airport used for both civilian and military purposes in Qinghai province.

While Beijing says that it is committed to disengagement and de-escalation from the Ladakh LAC as agreed upon by foreign ministers S Jaishankar and Wang Yi in Moscow on September 10, the PLA is apparently showing no sign or desire to adhere to the commitment.

As a result of China’s reluctance to take a step back, the Indian Army has been on alert with its troops proactively patrolling within its limits with the XIV Corps Command taken over by Lt Gen PGK Menon of the Sikh Regiment. With snow ready to fall in contested points on Gorga-Hot Springs, North and South Pangong Tso, it will be a long winter for the deployed troops.




few things to highlight:

- it is evidently clear that Chinese will "kahega kuch aur karega kuch". why are we wasting time on chai-biscuits sessions. why don't we take any action? the more we wait the stronger they will hold on to their position which is our land

- S400? so Russians supplied s400 to china? because previously china had only s300

- construction of a huge structure spread across 3 lakh square feet size of four football fields (possibly a military's barrack) - has been noticed around 10 kilometers from the LAC in occupied Aksai Chin across Gogra-Hot Springs area.


- what the hell is "counter-space jammers"


the above all items is serious escalation. any other military with any self-respect left would go- all in and take some visible military's action. we are not even brining conditions during the meeting that PLA should not construct new structures or somethings
 

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China builds new structures near LAC, relocates troops. India reads a message

China has deployed counter-space jammers 60 km from LAC in Arunachal Pradesh so that PLA activity is not picked up by an adversary through satellites

Even as India and China discuss disengagement from friction points in Ladakh at the military-diplomatic talks, the People’s Liberation Army is constructing new structures and relocating troops and equipment to occupied Aksai Chin in Tibet as well as Xinjiang with no intention of backing off from the 1,597 km of Line of Actual Control (LAC) in Ladakh at least this winter.

Senior military officials said they had noticed construction of a huge structure spread across 3 lakh square feet - almost the size of four football fields - has been noticed around 10 kilometres from the LAC in occupied Aksai Chin across Gogra-Hot Springs area.

According to a retired army chief, the humongous facility could be used for housing troops, artillery, rocket regiments and tanks as the barrels of tanks and guns are known to freeze and go brittle in sub-polar conditions. Given that the structure is very close to the LAC, it could also be used for setting up hospital facilities to treat PLA troops suffering from acute mountain sickness and high-altitude pulmonary edema. Both can prove fatal if not treated properly.

New deployment of vehicles and equipment under camouflage has also been picked up in Xinjiang, 82 kilometres from the LAC.

The Indian side has also spotted relocation of troops and equipment around a PLA camp 92 kilometres inside Aksai Chin and movement of a large number of PLA vehicles in the Tibet region across Ladakh’s Demchok. It is also very clear that PLA intelligence is watching the Galwan region and the Kongka La area from positions 8 to 20 km from the LAC in Aksai Chin.

The PLA is building a new road between Hotan and Kanxiwar in Xinjiang, some 166 km from the India-China border to provide an alternative route to Aksai Chin for the troops and equipment. The Chinese air supplies for the LAC stand-off are getting dropped off at the Hotan air base, 320 km from LAC as the crow flies, through Y-20 planes, widely acknowledged to be a copy of Russian IL-76 transport aircraft.

The PLA activity is not limited to Ladakh. Some 60 km from the LAC in Arunachal Pradesh, people familiar with the matter said, counter-space jammers had been deployed to ensure that PLA activity is not picked up by an adversary through satellites. It is understood that PLA has deployed Russian S-400 missile systems in depth areas around Nyingchi city across Arunachal Pradesh to cater to any aerial threat.

The net assessment of PLA posture is that China is consolidating its positions with bases and storage depots being set up in Golmud, which is connected to Lhasa through trains with a dual use airport used for both civilian and military purposes in Qinghai province.

While Beijing says that it is committed to disengagement and de-escalation from the Ladakh LAC as agreed upon by foreign ministers S Jaishankar and Wang Yi in Moscow on September 10, the PLA is apparently showing no sign or desire to adhere to the commitment.

As a result of China’s reluctance to take a step back, the Indian Army has been on alert with its troops proactively patrolling within its limits with the XIV Corps Command taken over by Lt Gen PGK Menon of the Sikh Regiment. With snow ready to fall in contested points on Gorga-Hot Springs, North and South Pangong Tso, it will be a long winter for the deployed troops.




few things to highlight:

- it is evidently clear that Chinese will "kahega kuch aur karega kuch". why are we wasting time on chai-biscuits sessions. why don't we take any action? the more we wait the stronger they will hold on to their position which is our land

- S400? so Russians supplied s400 to china? because previously china had only s300

- construction of a huge structure spread across 3 lakh square feet size of four football fields (possibly a military's barrack) - has been noticed around 10 kilometers from the LAC in occupied Aksai Chin across Gogra-Hot Springs area.


- what the hell is "counter-space jammers"


the above all items is serious escalation. any other military with any self-respect left would go- all in and take some visible military's action. we are not even brining conditions during the meeting that PLA should not construct new structures or somethings
Huge structures would have been built up in our depth areas too.. How else would you house the 3 divisions worth of people and machines in ladakh.. ? But, I guess GOI has barred media from divulging significant details.. and all we get from the Indian media is that its only the chinese who are busy..
 

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Huge structures would have been built up in our depth areas too.. How else would you house the 3 divisions worth of people and machines in ladakh.. ? But, I guess GOI has barred media from divulging significant details.. and all we get from the Indian media is that its only the chinese who are busy..
i agree with that sentiment, we build structure in our land but why are we letting them build barracks in our lands?
 

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i agree with that sentiment, we build structure in our land but why are we letting them build barracks in our lands?
It's a result of successful Chinese psychological warfare on the minds of the bureaucrats. This invasion did not start at Galwan; it has been going on for decades. Even last year there were reports of Chinese soldiers coming in to Indian territory and building. When questioned by Indian soldiers, Chinese soldiers attacked them with spiked clubs and wounded many of them. Even then the Indian soldiers were not allowed to use firearms to stop them. It took the 20 deaths at Galwan for Indian soldiers to be even allowed to use firearms if they are threatened. When bureaucrats in MEA and elsewhere are so slow to react even as the Chinese have been invading deeper and deeper year after year, wounding Indian soldiers who were not allowed to use firearms according to the "agreements with China," and building strongholds since last year, what do you expect?
After the 20 soldiers were killed in Galwan, were any bureaucrats fired? Did any resign out of shame that the same agreements that did not permit the use of firearms by Indian soldiers on the Chinese led to their deaths? No, and they never will. The biggest enemy of India is not China or even Pakistan. It's the bureaucracy/political/diplomat class of Delhi that thinks it's "enlightened," and knows what to do better than the average officer in the field. China knows this too, so it fooled the bureaucrats first with peace talks and later scared them with psy ops and intimidation tactics. The bureaucrats'/politicians' fear of losing their position paralyzes them from making the right decision for the country. Otherwise Chinese are nothing in front of the Indian armed forces, if the Indians are allowed to fight without any restrictions.
 

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That won't happen without a very active Indian helping hand behind the scenes + a final military coup de grace (like with Bangladesh).

Pak can be brought to the brink of implosion/Balkanization sub-conventionally, but at some point, India will have to bite the bullet and get its hands dirty.
Yes! Indian covert support is part of the implosion! But we need to step on the gas! 😉
 

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Massive lol on people having a go at Trump.
Perhaps people have forgotten that when he visited India , Delhi riot occurred and American media tried their best so that he could criticise India in his press conference and criticise CAA.
And he never spoke 1 word against India unlike Obama and his intolerant buddies.
 
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