India-China 2020 Border conflict

[Synergy]

Our military establishment doesn't trust America you see this from air chief statement.
Our war will be fought by our people why do you aspect that America will fight our war in Himalaya.

though not contradicting but I think we are over emphasizing and wrong analysing the statement by AF Chief.
he just tried to point out we've to fight our own battle and we are more than capable of, for that job.

 

[Synergy]

At this point, the Chinese could openly admit to funding and arming the NE insurgencies and there is nothing anyone could do about it.

they (GT) are already doing that (actually threatening) and we will use those admissions against them. they will be in big trouble if supports terrorism/separatism.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

At this point, the Chinese could openly admit to funding and arming the NE insurgencies and there is nothing anyone could do about it.

they have been doing it for decades what difference will it make if they admit it??

 

[Cheran]

Major increase in cases in France. We should never let our guard down.


Hope the CCP thugs get cursed & suffer.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Parliamentary committee calls China’s mistreatment of Uyghurs ‘genocide,’ urges Ottawa to sanction Beijing officials

Statement comes less than a week after China’s ambassador warned Canadian Parliamentarians against taking measures that recognize the mass detention

www.theglobeandmail.com

Parliamentary committee calls China’s mistreatment of Uyghurs ‘genocide,’ urges Ottawa to sanction Beijing officials

 

[Destrius]

Putin: Russia-China military alliance can't be ruled out

MOSCOW (AP) — Russian President Vladimir Putin said Thursday there is no need for a Russia-China military alliance now, but noted it could be forged in the future.

apnews.com

“Asked during a video conference with international foreign policy experts Thursday whether a military union between Moscow and Beijing was possible, Putin replied that 'we don’t need it, but, theoretically, it’s quite possible to imagine it.' ”

“ 'Without any doubt, our cooperation with China is bolstering the defense capability of China’s army,' he said, adding that the future could see even closer military ties between the two countries.”

“ 'The time will show how it will develop,' the Russian president said, adding that 'we won’t exclude it.' ”

We can't rely on Russian neutrality. Russia is clearly headed towards an alliance with China. There must be an urgent reduction in our reliance on Russian arms.

IMO "strategic neutrality" and "non-alignment" is an utter failure. Considering the circumstances, an alliance with the US is much needed.

 

[Shashank Nayak]

Putin: Russia-China military alliance can't be ruled out

MOSCOW (AP) — Russian President Vladimir Putin said Thursday there is no need for a Russia-China military alliance now, but noted it could be forged in the future.

apnews.com

“Asked during a video conference with international foreign policy experts Thursday whether a military union between Moscow and Beijing was possible, Putin replied that 'we don’t need it, but, theoretically, it’s quite possible to imagine it.' ”

“ 'Without any doubt, our cooperation with China is bolstering the defense capability of China’s army,' he said, adding that the future could see even closer military ties between the two countries.”

“ 'The time will show how it will develop,' the Russian president said, adding that 'we won’t exclude it.' ”

We can't rely on Russian neutrality. Russia is clearly headed towards an alliance with China. There must be an urgent reduction in our reliance on Russian arms.

IMO "strategic neutrality" and "non-alignment" is an utter failure. Considering the circumstances, an alliance with the US is much needed.

Alliance comes second.. We first need "Atmanirbharta on steroids" in defense..
What Putin is saying is: If west goes on an overdrive to economically and militarily contain Russia, Russia might not have much of a choice.. And he is right...

 

[AZTEC]

As we all know, China has been supporting Northeast insurgents.

Chinese media meant to threaten India, ends up confessing role in northeast

The Chinese state media’s threat had laid bare a truth wrapped in many layers of deniability in the past - links between North-East insurgent groups and Beijing.

www.hindustantimes.com

An effective way to retaliate would be to covertly sponsor a large jihadi insurgency in Xinjiang using Uighur Muslims. It will destabilize Xinjiang and bleed China's resources and slightly divert China's attention away from India.

Those who don't agree with me, keep in mind that such activities are/were conducted by every great power. For instance, the Khalistan insurgency was sponsored by the U.S. since the very beginning, the aim being destabilizing India

 

[Synergy]

Chinese believe India has more than 14,000 BrahMos missiles. Is it true? — Indian Defence News

How many BrahMos has been made are not confirmed by India but the Chinese think tank believes that more than 15,000 BrahMos missiles are built of which nearly 14,000 are in service with the...

defenceupdate.in

 

[FalconZero]

Chinese believe India has more than 14,000 BrahMos missiles. Is it true? — Indian Defence News

How many BrahMos has been made are not confirmed by India but the Chinese think tank believes that more than 15,000 BrahMos missiles are built of which nearly 14,000 are in service with the...

defenceupdate.in

LOL, if we assume google is correct about the unit cost of Bramhos then producing 14k of those missiles would cost around 38.5 Billion USD, good luck with that, our annual defense budgets was around 69Billion USD...
Ignoring the bs, we proly have less 300 of them and I am being generous here...

 

[johnq]

LOL, if we assume google is correct about the unit cost of Bramhos then producing 14k of those missiles would cost around 38.5 Billion USD, good luck with that, our annual defense budgets was around 69Billion USD...
Ignoring the bs, we proly have less 300 of them and I am being generous here...

The Brahmos has been manufactured for over 2 decades. If the estimate of 300 is correct, then for the past 2 decades 15 missiles were made per year.

 

[Cheran]

As we all know, China has been supporting Northeast insurgents.

Chinese media meant to threaten India, ends up confessing role in northeast

The Chinese state media’s threat had laid bare a truth wrapped in many layers of deniability in the past - links between North-East insurgent groups and Beijing.

www.hindustantimes.com

An effective way to retaliate would be to covertly sponsor a large jihadi insurgency in Xinjiang using Uighur Muslims. It will destabilize Xinjiang and bleed China's resources and slightly divert China's attention away from India.

Those who don't agree with me, keep in mind that such activities are/were conducted by every great power. For instance, the Khalistan insurgency was sponsored by the U.S. since the very beginning, the aim being destabilizing India

Sponsoring a jihadist insurgency is always a double edge sword.

 

[Dessert Storm]

The Brahmos has been manufactured for over 2 decades. If the estimate of 300 is correct, then for the past 2 decades 15 missiles were made per year.

Any idea about the missile's life-in-storage?

 

[Narendra s rawat]

LOL, if we assume google is correct about the unit cost of Bramhos then producing 14k of those missiles would cost around 38.5 Billion USD, good luck with that, our annual defense budgets was around 69Billion USD...
Ignoring the bs, we proly have less 300 of them and I am being generous here...

In 2007 Bramhos production start with 3 regiment were ordered 1 block I variant and 2 block II variant each
regiment =100 Bramhos+5 mobile launchers + command post
1Bramhos=$2.75million
300Bramhos=$825million
2 more block II variant regiment were raised when NDA comes in power
So,we have 5 regiment=500 Bramhos alone in army if there are no secret regiment of brahmos exist.
Indian Navy Talwar class frigate and INS Rajput class destroyer are capable of firing brahmos naval varient.
Indian navy has 6 Talwar class frigate each containing 8-cell Bramhos launcher and
4 Rajput class destroyer armed with twin inclined launchers carry 4 brahmos.
For Talwar 6X8=48 brahmos
For Rajput 4X4=32 brahmos
Armed with anti-ship and anti-aircraft varient
We have minimum 8 times to 10 times the brahmos for each ships.
Navy surface fleet have 600 to 720 Bramhos.
In Indian Navy submarine fleet it is INS kalvari class sumbrine which is armed with with brahmos though brahmos can be launched by INS chakra and INS Arihant but it highly unlikely.
So indian navy has
2 INS kalvari class submarine=30 to 20 brahmos of land and anti-ship attack variant of brahmos.
So indian navy has total 620 to 740 brahmos.
Indian Air force no of are vary hard to estimate
IAF planned 200 Brahmos-A varient in 2016 to with 2 squadron of su30mki But in 2020 only 1st squadron of su30mki is fully operational and on 2nd work is in progress.
So India have total 10 varient of Bramhos and minimum 1500 approx known brahmos no.

 

[Prakshepak]

In 2007 Bramhos production start with 3 regiment were ordered 1 block I variant and 2 block II variant each
regiment =100 Bramhos+5 mobile launchers + command post
1Bramhos=$2.75million
300Bramhos=$825million
2 more block II variant regiment were raised when NDA comes in power
So,we have 5 regiment=500 Bramhos alone in army if there are no secret regiment of brahmos exist.
Indian Navy Talwar class frigate and INS Rajput class destroyer are capable of firing brahmos naval varient.
Indian navy has 6 Talwar class frigate each containing 8-cell Bramhos launcher and
4 Rajput class destroyer armed with twin inclined launchers carry 4 brahmos.
For Talwar 6X8=48 brahmos
For Rajput 4X4=32 brahmos
Armed with anti-ship and anti-aircraft varient
We have minimum 8 times to 10 times the brahmos for each ships.
Navy surface fleet have 600 to 720 Bramhos.
In Indian Navy submarine fleet it is INS kalvari class sumbrine which is armed with with brahmos though brahmos can be launched by INS chakra and INS Arihant but it highly unlikely.
So indian navy has
2 INS kalvari class submarine=30 to 20 brahmos of land and anti-ship attack variant of brahmos.
So indian navy has total 620 to 740 brahmos.
Indian Air force no of are vary hard to estimate
IAF planned 200 Brahmos-A varient in 2016 to with 2 squadron of su30mki But in 2020 only 1st squadron of su30mki is fully operational and on 2nd work is in progress.
So India have total 10 varient of Bramhos and minimum 1500 approx known brahmos no.

Can Kalvari fire brahmos? Can you verify? I think it can only fire Exocet through torpedo tubes

 

[Narendra s rawat]

Can Kalvari fire brahmos? Can you verify? I think it can only fire Exocet through torpedo tubes

Yes kalvari comes under p75i which were planned to be equipped with brahmos.
Check the report of livefistdefence.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...Vaw1RNUf-GBdInCf4E6D301E0&cshid=1603434472326

 

[Narendra s rawat]

Yes kalvari comes under p75i which were planned to be equipped with brahmos.
Check the report of livefistdefence.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...Vaw1RNUf-GBdInCf4E6D301E0&cshid=1603434472326

Test of Bramhos for submarine was counted in feb 2019 for project 75i class submarine.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAAegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw08iU4ptsV1E9ZAWQV5_Dk0

 

[GunDeGunday]

Alliance comes second.. We first need "Atmanirbharta on steroids" in defense..
What Putin is saying is: If west goes on an overdrive to economically and militarily contain Russia, Russia might not have much of a choice.. And he is right...

India joining the West in this would also make it more likely for Russia to ally with China I imagine. They can't really keep out, they pretty much need China.

 

[FalconSlayers]

LOL, if we assume google is correct about the unit cost of Bramhos then producing 14k of those missiles would cost around 38.5 Billion USD, good luck with that, our annual defense budgets was around 69Billion USD...
Ignoring the bs, we proly have less 300 of them and I am being generous here...

2000 were to be made, 1000 for India and Russia and 1000 for export as per wikipedia.

 

[Flying Dagger]

India should not get involved in this Cold War 2.0 imo, we should be especially cautious with Americans knowing their true nature and how they dealt with Pakistan after using them to screw over the USSR and later during the War on Terror.

Porks screwed themselves USA gave them a lot to move forward.