India-China 2020 Border conflict

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I read somewhere that the older the OS are, more of its bugs and exploits are found and ironed out so the older ones becomes much more stable than newer ones.
typically OS companies reduce the number of people working on a version as their demand goes down.

Fixing Security vulnerabilities is a rat race, there is no such thing as permanent fixing of bugs. there will always be somebody who will find new vulnerabilities.

hence old softwares are not hack proof, but rather more vulnerable because there is no one to fix the new loopholes.
 

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Chinese hacker groups target at least dozen Indian organisations


Chinese state-sponsored groups intruded into the computer networks of at least a dozen Indian state-run organisations, mainly power utilities and load dispatch centres, since mid-2020 in an attempt to insert malware that could cause widespread disruptions, according to a new study.


Among the organisations that were targeted were NTPC Limited, the country’s largest power conglomerate, five key regional load dispatch centres that help in the management of the national power grid by balancing electricity supply and demand and two ports, says the study by Recorded Future, a US-based company that tracks the use of the internet by state actors for cyber-campaigns.
All 12 organisations would qualify as critical infrastructure, according to the Indian National Critical Information Infrastructure Protection Centre’s (NCIIPC) definition.
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The report further said the alleged intrusions by the Chinese groups, some with known links to the Ministry of State Security (MSS), or China’s main intelligence and security agency, and the People’s Liberation Army (PLA), were not limited to the power sector. There were apparent efforts to target numerous government and defence organisations, the report said.

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“In the lead-up to the May 2020 skirmishes, we observed a noticeable increase in the provisioning of PlugX malware C2 infrastructure, much of which was subsequently used in intrusion activity targeting Indian organizations. The PlugX activity included the targeting of multiple Indian government, public sector, and defense organizations from at least May 2020,” the report said.

PlugX has been “heavily used by China-nexus groups for many years”, and throughout the rest of 2020, Recorded Future’s investigators “identified a heavy focus on the targeting of Indian government and private sector organizations by multiple Chinese state-sponsored threat activity groups”.

the report pointed to a massive power outage in Mumbai on October 13, 2020 that was allegedly caused by the insertion of malware at a state load dispatch centre in Padgha. Maharashtra power minister Nitin Raut had said at the time that authorities suspected sabotage was the cause of the outage.

The two-hour outage resulted in the closure of the stock exchange, while trains were cancelled and offices across Mumbai, Thane and Mavi Mumbai were shut down.

“At this time, the alleged link between the outage and the discovery of the unspecified malware variant remains unsubstantiated. However, this disclosure provides additional evidence suggesting the coordinated targeting of Indian Load Dispatch Centres,” Recorded Future said in its reports.


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“Pre-positioning on energy assets may support several potential outcomes, including geostrategic signalling during heightened bilateral tensions, supporting influence operations, or as a precursor to kinetic escalation,” the report said.

The reason why china should never be allowed in any projects in India.
cuz one or other other way these infrastructure projects will have to interface with the grid or other critical utilities.

we cannot discount the chinese activity when the Tel link at NSE went down for a few hours

fuck china
 

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India China border news: To counter China, Army to mark ‘unheld areas’ with expeditions, studies | India News - Times of India



NEW DELHI: The Army is firmly pushing for mountaineering expeditions as well as research studies to publicise and consolidate India’s legitimate territorial claims in areas along the northern borders to counter the salami-slicing tactics of an expansionist China.

For starters, the Army is launching a major skiing expedition from the crucial Karakoram Pass in Ladakh to Lipulekh Pass in Uttarakhand, which will cover a distance of around 1,500km after being flagged off on March 3.


“China’s blatantly expansionist policy to grab territory needs to be effectively countered. While the Army rebalances with additional forces and firepower to the northern borders, it’s also essential to show and mark our presence in ‘unheld’ areas through mountaineering and other expeditions there,” said a senior officer.

 

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I still wonder why china did what it did ... It was complete failure .. It lost soldiers , dignity and at last went back all the way it came in buffer zone ...
In terms of business it has lost billions in projects , app bans and import not just in past but also to be continued in future . In many things where china was give preference ll now be taken up of japan , s korea or taiwan . I think our people too much advertise sun tzu . Their action doesnt look like strategic rather it looks like response of a fragrile ego .
 

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Running on very old OS is actually a safety feature afaik.
Dude these OS are security nightmares! there are so many exploits for these. The only way these can be secured is to be not on any network! which I don't think is possible!
Just move all softwares to custom Inhouse OS.
 

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I still wonder why china did what it did ... It was complete failure .. It lost soldiers , dignity and at last went back all the way it came in buffer zone ...
In terms of business it has lost billions in projects , app bans and import not just in past but also to be continued in future . In many things where china was give preference ll now be taken up of japan , s korea or taiwan . I think our people too much advertise sun tzu . Their action doesnt look like strategic rather it looks like response of a fragrile ego .
Well, every failed military operation starts with an optimistic plan that never succeeded. Kargil was another such example.

I remember, during May-June last year, the western "developed" nations predicted COVID will cripple India and cause mass-deaths because apparently, our healthcare is nonexistent and all Indians live in overpopulated slums.
China too had a similar view that we dirty Indians will perish and their supreme red power will take over Ladakh and Arunachal Pradesh while chanting the names of Mao & Sun Tzu.

Well, things exactly did not go as they planned, so they aborted their campaign.
 

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I still wonder why china did what it did ... It was complete failure .. It lost soldiers , dignity and at last went back all the way it came in buffer zone ...
In terms of business it has lost billions in projects , app bans and import not just in past but also to be continued in future . In many things where china was give preference ll now be taken up of japan , s korea or taiwan . I think our people too much advertise sun tzu . Their action doesnt look like strategic rather it looks like response of a fragrile ego .
this is a open ended question, don’t think we will know the answer for a couple of decades.

don’t forget, attack on redfort also happened during the same period.
 

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I still wonder why china did what it did ... It was complete failure .. It lost soldiers , dignity and at last went back all the way it came in buffer zone ...
In terms of business it has lost billions in projects , app bans and import not just in past but also to ve continued in future . In many things where china was give preference ll now be taken up of japan , s korea or taiwan . I think our people too much advertise sun tzu .
May be china thought they could get away with it ..the salami slicing and they thought they can put india under pressure by
1) internal unrest via opposition and dent GoI politically (but Indians have understood that the opposition is sold out to china, pak and internatioanal cabal run by soros. Ruling party won some cool elections during the pandemic)

2) wuhan virus which they thought would create havoc in India. ( Many international agencies, WHO and "research groups" were hoping Millions will die in India and with a lil push china could make GoI come to their terms)

3) chinese never thought India will have a quick economic recovery. ( Which is quite surprising, that Indian companies adapted very quickly to the live scenario as it unfolded during the wuhan virus pandemic and stood strong)

4) chinese thought they would pressure iran and pakistan to launch war at India's western front. (India saw that coming and kept the pressure on pakis. Many an attempt by pakis to create big terror incident during the pandemic time failed )

5) chinese never thought India will ban chinese tech companies and Apps in India as they thought it provided employment. Well India kept the national interest above everything and fucked china and xi raw.
chinese cried about the economic loss india will face..but hey Indian startups were busy looking at the void created by the kicked out chinese companies and competed against each other to fill that void and grab that pie of economy.

6) chinese also thought that they would sabotage Indian infrastructure by hacking and unleashin malware. in telecom and also in power sector. The attempt on telecom was thwarted..but a localised incident may have happened in mumbai power grid (no official confirmation on it apart from the latest media report).
Well so we can say..china did try to sabotage India via hacking..but that doesnt dissuade India from banning chinese companies..but India went ahead and created protocols as to prevent any future involvement of chinese in Indian infra projects . Well Xi scored a major self goal.
china not only hacked Indian but australia, USA and some countries in Europe during the pandemic, trying to project the arrogance of Xi and the commie stupidity all around the world with their script kiddies.

7)chinese thought they would have the advantage in the vaccine market...but somehow chinese were not able to steal the brew for an effective vaccin and Sinovac suffered a market rejection even from the best friends of chinese :rofl:
chinese might have calculated that they would put their vaccine diplomacy and settle things with India at LC in their favor and also keep the west in the chinese leash.
Well!! chinese vaccine backfired royally.

8) India was totally dependent on china and others for even PPE kits..but well India turned it around and became the largest producer of PPE kit globally within a few months...not just PPE kits but other medical devices too..including the ventilators and things.

9) India's proactive diplomacy during the pandemic kept everyone in India's fold. The middle east which was one fault line in India's international relations was kept safe by India's moves.

10)India used the anti china sentiments to India's advantage, economically and diplomatically.

11) chinese ran out of moves..as world nations used the demographic sentiments against china..and by the time world nations came out of the chinese made pandemic, the world nations were focused on fixing their own vulnerability than being confused (which chinese thought they would dance on)

12) Everytime china played their cards in India through their proxies, be it pakistanis, congies, commies and other anti nationalist cabal, Media, etc in India..it exposed these internal assholes and it made the Indians stay together. cuz their sense of survival got triggered.
India is a concept which dick tator Xi wont understand.

in essence..
chinese under estimated the Indian resolve..which is the core and well noone would be able to match that.
The Indian resolve that is as strong as the dharma which rules this land.
 
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Do you think the power outage sabotage in Mumbai in Oct 2020 was caused by them?
Yes

Bigger question, was the below Indian response as its had happened 2 month after Mumbai outage and considering the fact its not regular and once in a decade event

China suffers worst power blackouts in a decade, on post-coronavirus export boom, coal supply shortage
 

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Yes

Bigger question, was the below Indian response as its had happened 2 month after Mumbai outage and considering the fact its not regular and once in a decade event

China suffers worst power blackouts in a decade, on post-coronavirus export boom, coal supply shortage
Granted, everything bad that happens in Pakistan is always "raa ki saajish," but the "raa ki saajish" reports during the nationwide power blackouts Pakistan suffered recently stand out. They allege an Indian op.

China is underestimating the Indian/American ability to play cyber warfare.
 

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Do you think the power outage sabotage in Mumbai in Oct 2020 was caused by them?
An email was received from CERT-In on 19th November, 2020 on the threat of malware called Shadow Pad at some control centres of POSOCO. Accordingly, action has been taken to address these threats: Power Ministry

NCIIPC informed through mail on Feb 12 about threat by Red Echo through malware Shadow Pad that “Chinese state-sponsored threat Actor group known as Red Echo is targeting Indian Power sector's Regional Load Dispatch Centres along with State Load Dispatch Centres": Power Ministry

All IPs & domains listed in NCIIPC mail have been blocked in firewall at all control centres. Log of firewall is being monitored for any connection attempt towards listed IPs & domains. Additionally,all systems in control centres were scanned & cleaned by antivirus : Power Ministry

 

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An email was received from CERT-In on 19th November, 2020 on the threat of malware called Shadow Pad at some control centres of POSOCO. Accordingly, action has been taken to address these threats: Power Ministry

NCIIPC informed through mail on Feb 12 about threat by Red Echo through malware Shadow Pad that “Chinese state-sponsored threat Actor group known as Red Echo is targeting Indian Power sector's Regional Load Dispatch Centres along with State Load Dispatch Centres": Power Ministry

All IPs & domains listed in NCIIPC mail have been blocked in firewall at all control centres. Log of firewall is being monitored for any connection attempt towards listed IPs & domains. Additionally,all systems in control centres were scanned & cleaned by antivirus : Power Ministry

Its an act of war, best thing to do right now is banning the imports of all IT Hardware from China. Will help local manufacturing and job creating helping our economy while will make Chicoms’ attacks useless and will give losses to their companies.
 

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so 20 Indian soldiers died? that's too many for a knife fight.
Chinese attacked unarmed indian soldiers with nail sticks who were to check if chinese vacated. So it was planned by chinese. We then did counter attack killing 48 chinese on that day itself in hand to hand fight and many more died later. So its you who broke all the agreements and backstabbed as always
 

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