India-China 2020 Border conflict

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Today is Chinese Lunar New Year's Eve, the most important festival of the year for Chinese people.
Best wishes from China.
This is why the President of the United States calls China at this time, which is equivalent to paying New Year's greetings to the Chinese people.
India is not a threat to China, don't keep staring at us.The Chinese care very little about the border between China and India, and the government and the army will do their job.
 

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The real question is how far back will the Armour and Artillery go BACK

And How much time will it take for the Same Machines to be brought back at the present position

The terrain is such that Soldiers staying in whatever numbers makes no difference

Because when the shelling starts
Everyone will have to run for cover
 

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You're confusing two things, total debt and government debt
India's 70% refers to India's government debt, while China's data you give is total debt. China's government debt is 60%.150% of corporate debt
China’s government debts are all domestic debts, and there are basically no external debts. Japan’s debt is so high that there is no danger at all. Because Japan is almost all domestic debts, and Greece is mostly foreign debts, Greece often has debt crises.
NOPE...
India GDP - 3.2 trillion $
India’s total external debt - 560 billion $,
remittances - 140 billion $ , commercial borrowing - 210 billion $,
Govt debt - 103 billion $
Private debt - 450 billion $


 

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Is that why you are here on the day your army retreated after finding that the himalayas were too cold for their soyboys?
I'm interested in India, I'm not interested in the border between China and India, if not use a map search, I don't even know where Aksai is.
 

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You are absolutely right. South bank Chinese are vulnerable with moldo garrison overlooked by IA and they're only interested to IA pull back
from South bank as we never had control over north bank beyond F4. Also no mention of other sectors depsang hot springs
Very very important points raised by Brahma Chellany sir.
 

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exactly, i have been saying the same thing..

if you think about it, Chinese actually won.. from day 1, they wanted us to vacate and disengage on finger area without them making any commitments on other areas like dbo, hotsprings, depsang plains etc..

and even today, there is no mention of disengagement of above said areas from either side. so we blinked first..
areas like dbo, depsang plains are more crucial then finger areas. if we loose these areas, it will even threaten Siachen and it will push us further down. we will no longer have leverage over LEH or karokoram hgwy

if u remember the statements made by our side during aug/oct/...

chinese doesn't even want to discuss dbo, depsang plains, hot springs. they insisted on disengagement on finger areas first..

and today we are disengaging without any commitments on other areas.
DBO, Hotspring & Depsang area, there has been no "incursion" like Pangong Tso, only troop build-up on border areas. We have mirrored them in the same strength on our side.

A conspiracy theory for those who think external (US, Russia) mediation happened (including me), what if we are being played? Mediators guarantee disengagement, Chinese agree, process begins and then they backstab us in the manner @mist_consecutive explained. Massive loss off face for GOI, mediators ignore Chinese transgression with only stern words, since that was the plan all along. The only solution at that point would be a complete war scenario for us. What happens then?
High chance that the third party is America and Biden being a hand-puppet of She Jing Ping.
 

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A conspiracy theory for those who think external (US, Russia) mediation happened (including me), what if we are being played? Mediators guarantee disengagement, Chinese agree, process begins and then they backstab us in the manner @mist_consecutive explained. Massive loss off face for GOI, mediators ignore Chinese transgression with only stern words, since that was the plan all along. The only solution at that point would be a complete war scenario for us. What happens then?
"Slap me once , shame on you , slap me twice , shame on me ."

:( would be really disappointing if we get off from peaks overlooking F4 ,

Sat images should reveal how much and nature of disengagement in following months.

IMHO any disenagement only limited to pangong lake area is a loss for us.

:yawn: We will get slapped again in future. Xii Jinping probably already marked date on calender.
 

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What we had learnt last year was.that
The Present Deployment of PLA is mainly
CONSCRIPTS whose.2 year term came
To an end last September

And there have been reports that these Conscripts have demanded that they want to Go Back

So quiet likely that Conscripts have revolted

And if the New soldiers come.right now
They would get.frozen in winter

Otherwise why would the PLA agree to withdraw

What does PLA gain by withdrawal
 

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What we had learnt last year was.that
The Present Deployment of PLA is mainly
CONSCRIPTS whose.2 year term came
To an end last September

And there have been reports that these Conscripts have demanded that they want to Go Back

So quiet likely that Conscripts have revolted

And if the New soldiers come.right now
They would get.frozen in winter

Otherwise why would the PLA agree to withdraw

What does PLA gain by withdrawal
I hope you realise being permanently stationed in -30 C is foolishness. We shouldn't repeat the mistake of Siachen here. It takes a lot of toll on soldiers body.
 

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We can hope IA will do surveillance continuously. And have a mechanism in place to come back easily again in case of any need arises.
 
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