India-China 2020 Border conflict

[Ayushraj]

Russian news agency claiming death of 45 Chinese soldiers.

 

[perun88]

I am eagerly awaiting the next tweet from Pravin Sawhney and the reactions of his Pakistani fanboys. Shukla has gone missing for the last two hours.

india ne gutne tek dy hy cheen ke samny. 93001 hindutva terrorist ne surrender kia hy.

 

[Mantospace]

Why we cant go to f4, after all its our area ?

 

[Ayushraj]

My question why chinese were trying to do salami slicing during staring period of covid pandemic.
Pla soldiers along with IA army beared extreme cold in those range during winter. How come Chinese left this area at advent of summer.

 

[utubekhiladi]

its a trap.

what's the agreement reached regarding depsang plains, hot springs, dbo etc?

 

[perun88]

My question why chinese were trying to do salami slicing during staring period of covid pandemic.
Pla soldiers along with IA army beared extreme cold in those range during winter. How come Chinese left this area at advent of summer.

Trouble brewing on another front probably. Taiwan?

 

[Cruise missile]

Dog eaters can only win in SM not in reality just like their slaves porkis.

 

[Ayushraj]

Trouble brewing on another front probably. Taiwan?

For pla forces taiwan is always a hot area since 1950
You can compare it with loc of India. All time issue.

 

[perun88]

For pla forces taiwan is always a hot area since 1950
You can compare it with loc of India. All time issue.

There were rumors that they were planning an invasion. It would make normandy look like a stroll in the park, if it were to really happen. It's all conjecture at this point. I am on team vishwaasghaat tbh.

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

Why does RM's statement mention a similar action would be taken on the Southern bank, by both sides?

 

[DownWithCCP]

Why does RM's statement mention a similar action would be taken on the Southern bank, by both sides?

It also mentions that strategic heights won't be vacated, I couldn't be bothered to be worried then.

 

[Gandaberunda]

This disengagement is solely because of IA readjustments in South bank of Pangong lake which rendered their moldo garrison usless and vulnerable 24/7. Xi has eaten a humble pie of humiliation getting slaughtered whole garrison after galwan thrashing. It also evident to tame a dragon we have to employ offensive doctrine across LAC. Also PLA ladboys are years away in training tactics and mountain warfare from Indian army counterparts... The edge should be always maintained irrespective of weapons facilities and infrastructure available at disposal

 

[Apollo]

CCP has been planning disengagement for quite sometime, it is a face saving exit for PLA but not for CCP. Xi's regime is going to face the heat in mainland if India manages to flush them out to pre April status quo. Its very wierd PLA running away when snow starts to disappear. So PLA worried about high casualty in a close combat with IA if they stay put until summer in pangong sector. But disengaging at kailash range is losing a strategic advantage, back stabbers may reengage at any time shud not be trusted. IA& Iaf UAVs have to monitor the pla pull back extremely.
However now its Time to allocate all our resources to the western border.

 

[pankaj nema]

Once Armour , IFVs and Artillery are removed , Infantry has no role left

The Chinese are not going to play Kabaddi with us

Chinese have made many new structures between F4 and F 8

Removing them will make them cry

 

[Gandaberunda]

Slave momins will be busy in propaganda to make this as Xi's victory to squeeze some more loans

 

[perun88]

This disengagement is solely because of IA readjustments in South bank of Pangong lake which rendered their moldo garrison usless and vulnerable 24/7. Xi has eaten a humble pie of humiliation getting slaughtered whole garrison after galwan thrashing. It also evident to tame a dragon we have to employ offensive doctrine across LAC. Also PLA ladboys are years away in training tactics and mountain warfare from Indian army counterparts... The edge should be always maintained irrespective of weapons facilities and infrastructure available at disposal

You are probably right. VK Singhs statement about us not being good little boys might've seemed like a boast last week, but it seems that the winter did not stop us from doing readjustments of our own. If this is true, then being able to maneuver in these conditions seems like a frightening ability for the army to hold.

 

[Cruise missile]

Slave momins will be busy in propaganda to make this as Xi's victory to squeeze some more loans

Slaves momins should be scared bcz all the build up can easily directed towards them.

 

[captscooby81]

Quote from the full statement is what worry's me " our expectation that the Chinese side will work with us in full sincerity" Expecting bat shit eaters to show sincerity to their commitment is foolish especially after the incidents of galwan clash.

Hope MEA babus not squandering the hard gain positions in south bank for nothing . Those positions came after sacrifice by SFF guys lets not waste their sacrifice one more time with babudom stupidity


Hon’ble Chairman,

The House would recall that I had made a detailed statement on the developments in the India-China border areas in Eastern Ladakh during the last session in September last year. I had highlighted that the Chinese side had since April/May 2020 amassed large number of troops and armaments in the border areas adjacent to Eastern Ladakh. It had also made several attempts to transgress the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in various parts. These actions of the Chinese side had been detected and appropriately responded to by our armed forces. The House and the Nation had also paid homage to the brave Indian soldiers who had made the supreme sacrifice and laid down their lives in the cause of defending the territorial integrity of India.I would today like to apprise the House of certain important developments since then.

Since last September, both sides have maintained communication with each other through military and diplomatic channels. Our objective was to effect disengagement and maintain status quo along the LAC so as to restore peace and tranquillity.

Let me briefly recapitulate the main aspects of the situation on the ground. As the House is aware, China illegally occupied approximately 38,000 sq. kms in the Union Territory of Ladakh, mainly during the 1962 conflict. In addition, under the so-called Sino-Pakistan ‘Boundary Agreement’ of 1963, Pakistan illegally ceded 5,180 sq. kms. of Indian territory in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir to China. China, thus is in illegal occupation of more than 43,000 sq. kms of Indian territory.It also claims approximately 90,000 sq. kms. of Indian territory in the Eastern Sector of the India-China boundary in Arunachal Pradesh. India has never accepted this illegal occupation of our territory or the unjustified claims.

I would like to add here that India has consistently maintained that while bilateral relations can develop in parallel with discussions on resolving the boundary question, any serious disturbance in peace and tranquility along the LAC in the border areas is bound to have adverse implications for the direction of our bilateral ties. The Chinese side is well aware of our position. In fact, various high level Joint Statements have acknowledged this point that maintenance of peace and tranquility along the LAC in the border areas is a fundamental premise for development of relations.

Theactions by the Chinese side since last year have seriously disturbed peace and tranquility. Consequentlythey have also had an impact on the overall relationship. In our various high level interactions with the Chinese side, including in my own meeting with Chinese Defence Minister last September, my colleague the External Affairs Minister Shri Jaishankarji’s meeting with Chinese Foreign Minister and NSA Shri Doval’s conversation with his Chinese counterpart, we have made it clear that the foremost need was to ensure disengagement in all the friction points along the LAC in the Western Sector so as to help restore peace and tranquility.

Hon’ble Chairman,

I had apprised the House last year that there were several friction areas in Eastern Ladakh along the LAC. In addition, the Chinese side had mobilized a large number of troops and armaments along the LAC as well as in the depth areas. Our armed forces too had made adequate and effective counter deployments in these areas to ensure that India’s security interests were fully protected.

I am proud to say that our Armed Forces have responded to the challenges posed by the unilateral Chinese action and have shown valour and courage on both South and North bank of Pangong Tso. Many strategically important points were identified and our troops positioned themselves at those Hill Tops and at locations which were very important from our point of view. It is because of this great bravery of our Armed Forces in the face of harsh adverse climatic conditions that we maintained the edge. Our Armed Forces proved yet again that territorial integrity of our country remains safe in their hands and their grit and determination to safeguard our borders is unwavering.

Over the last year, we have maintained diplomatic and military engagement with the Chinese side. In these discussions, we have maintained the three key principles that determine our approach: (i) both sides should strictly respect and observe the LAC; (ii) neither side should attempt to alter the status quo unilaterally; and (iii) all agreements and understandings between the two sides must be fully abided by in their entirety. To ensure disengagement in friction points along the LAC, it was our view that troops of both sides, who are now in close proximity, should vacate the forward deployments made in 2020 and return to the permanent and accepted bases.

Hon’ble Chairman,

Our approach and strategy for negotiations with the Chinese side has been guided at the highest level by the Hon’ble Prime Minister’s resolve that we will not give even an inch of Indian territory. Our tenacity and approach during talks have yielded results.

Since September 2020, based on the policy guidance, military and diplomatic officials of both sides have met several times to work out a mutually acceptable solution for disengagement. Till date, there have been 9 rounds of meetings of the Senior Commanders of both sides. Diplomatic talks have continued in parallel under the Working Mechanism for Consultation and Coordination on India-China Border Affairs (WMCC).

Hon’ble Chairman,

I am happy to inform the House today that as a result of our well thought out approach and sustained talks with the Chinese side, we have now been able to reach an agreement on disengagement in the North and South Bank of the Pangong Lake. It has also been agreed to convene the next meeting of the Senior Commanders within 48 hours after the complete disengagement in the Pangong Lake area so as to address and resolve all other remaining issues.

The agreement that we have been able to reach with the Chinese side for disengagement in the Pangong lake area envisages that both sides will cease their forward deployments in a phased, coordinated and verified manner. The Chinese side will keep its troop presence in the North Bank area to east of Finger 8.Reciprocally, the Indian troops will be based at their permanent base at Dhan Singh Thapa Post near Finger 3. A similar action would be taken in the South Bank area by both sides. These are mutual and reciprocal steps and any structures that had been built by both sides since April 2020 in both North and South Bank area will be removed and the landforms will be restored. It has also been agreed to have a temporary moratorium on military activities by both sides in the North Bank, including patrolling to the traditional areas. Patrolling will be resumed only when both sides reach an agreement in diplomatic and military talks that would be held subsequently. The implementation of this agreement has started yesterday in the North and South Bank of the Pangong Lake. It will substantially restore the situation to that existing prior to commencement of the standoff last year.

13. I want to assure this House that in these talks we have not conceded anything. The House should also know that there are still some outstanding issues with regard to deployment and patrolling at some other points along the LAC in Eastern Ladakh. These will be the focus of further discussions with the Chinese side. We have agreed that both sides should achieve complete disengagement at the earliest and abide fully by the bilateral agreements and protocols. By now, the Chinese side is also fully aware of our resolve. It is therefore our expectation that the Chinese side will work with us in full sincerity to resolve these remaining issues.

Hon’ble Chairman,

I would like this House to join me in paying gratitude to our armed forces who have shown grit and resolve under these extremely harsh climatic conditions of Ladakh which has resulted in the present agreement.Our Nation will always remember the sacrifices made by our brave soldiers which has been the foundation of this disengagement at Pangong Tso Lake.

Hon’bleChairman,

I am confident that this entire House, irrespective of political affiliations, is united together for upholding our sovereignty, unity, territorial integrity and national security. And further, this House is one in sending out the same message demonstrating the strength and unity of our Nation to the entire world.

 

[Apollo]

Slave momins will be busy in propaganda to make this as Xi's victory to squeeze some more loans

Already moronic slaves are running victorious Xi campaign on PDF, their God father is sucker Pravin sawhney

 

[Rudra7678]

Quote from the full statement is what worry's me " our expectation that the Chinese side will work with us in full sincerity" Expecting bat shit eaters to show sincerity to their commitment is foolish especially after the incidents of galwan clash.

Hope MEA babus not squandering the hard gain positions in south bank for nothing . Those positions came after sacrifice by SFF guys lets not waste their sacrifice one more time with babudom stupidity


Hon’ble Chairman,

The House would recall that I had made a detailed statement on the developments in the India-China border areas in Eastern Ladakh during the last session in September last year. I had highlighted that the Chinese side had since April/May 2020 amassed large number of troops and armaments in the border areas adjacent to Eastern Ladakh. It had also made several attempts to transgress the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in various parts. These actions of the Chinese side had been detected and appropriately responded to by our armed forces. The House and the Nation had also paid homage to the brave Indian soldiers who had made the supreme sacrifice and laid down their lives in the cause of defending the territorial integrity of India.I would today like to apprise the House of certain important developments since then.

Since last September, both sides have maintained communication with each other through military and diplomatic channels. Our objective was to effect disengagement and maintain status quo along the LAC so as to restore peace and tranquillity.

Let me briefly recapitulate the main aspects of the situation on the ground. As the House is aware, China illegally occupied approximately 38,000 sq. kms in the Union Territory of Ladakh, mainly during the 1962 conflict. In addition, under the so-called Sino-Pakistan ‘Boundary Agreement’ of 1963, Pakistan illegally ceded 5,180 sq. kms. of Indian territory in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir to China. China, thus is in illegal occupation of more than 43,000 sq. kms of Indian territory.It also claims approximately 90,000 sq. kms. of Indian territory in the Eastern Sector of the India-China boundary in Arunachal Pradesh. India has never accepted this illegal occupation of our territory or the unjustified claims.

I would like to add here that India has consistently maintained that while bilateral relations can develop in parallel with discussions on resolving the boundary question, any serious disturbance in peace and tranquility along the LAC in the border areas is bound to have adverse implications for the direction of our bilateral ties. The Chinese side is well aware of our position. In fact, various high level Joint Statements have acknowledged this point that maintenance of peace and tranquility along the LAC in the border areas is a fundamental premise for development of relations.

Theactions by the Chinese side since last year have seriously disturbed peace and tranquility. Consequentlythey have also had an impact on the overall relationship. In our various high level interactions with the Chinese side, including in my own meeting with Chinese Defence Minister last September, my colleague the External Affairs Minister Shri Jaishankarji’s meeting with Chinese Foreign Minister and NSA Shri Doval’s conversation with his Chinese counterpart, we have made it clear that the foremost need was to ensure disengagement in all the friction points along the LAC in the Western Sector so as to help restore peace and tranquility.

Hon’ble Chairman,

I had apprised the House last year that there were several friction areas in Eastern Ladakh along the LAC. In addition, the Chinese side had mobilized a large number of troops and armaments along the LAC as well as in the depth areas. Our armed forces too had made adequate and effective counter deployments in these areas to ensure that India’s security interests were fully protected.

I am proud to say that our Armed Forces have responded to the challenges posed by the unilateral Chinese action and have shown valour and courage on both South and North bank of Pangong Tso. Many strategically important points were identified and our troops positioned themselves at those Hill Tops and at locations which were very important from our point of view. It is because of this great bravery of our Armed Forces in the face of harsh adverse climatic conditions that we maintained the edge. Our Armed Forces proved yet again that territorial integrity of our country remains safe in their hands and their grit and determination to safeguard our borders is unwavering.

Over the last year, we have maintained diplomatic and military engagement with the Chinese side. In these discussions, we have maintained the three key principles that determine our approach: (i) both sides should strictly respect and observe the LAC; (ii) neither side should attempt to alter the status quo unilaterally; and (iii) all agreements and understandings between the two sides must be fully abided by in their entirety. To ensure disengagement in friction points along the LAC, it was our view that troops of both sides, who are now in close proximity, should vacate the forward deployments made in 2020 and return to the permanent and accepted bases.

Hon’ble Chairman,

Our approach and strategy for negotiations with the Chinese side has been guided at the highest level by the Hon’ble Prime Minister’s resolve that we will not give even an inch of Indian territory. Our tenacity and approach during talks have yielded results.

Since September 2020, based on the policy guidance, military and diplomatic officials of both sides have met several times to work out a mutually acceptable solution for disengagement. Till date, there have been 9 rounds of meetings of the Senior Commanders of both sides. Diplomatic talks have continued in parallel under the Working Mechanism for Consultation and Coordination on India-China Border Affairs (WMCC).

Hon’ble Chairman,

I am happy to inform the House today that as a result of our well thought out approach and sustained talks with the Chinese side, we have now been able to reach an agreement on disengagement in the North and South Bank of the Pangong Lake. It has also been agreed to convene the next meeting of the Senior Commanders within 48 hours after the complete disengagement in the Pangong Lake area so as to address and resolve all other remaining issues.

The agreement that we have been able to reach with the Chinese side for disengagement in the Pangong lake area envisages that both sides will cease their forward deployments in a phased, coordinated and verified manner. The Chinese side will keep its troop presence in the North Bank area to east of Finger 8.Reciprocally, the Indian troops will be based at their permanent base at Dhan Singh Thapa Post near Finger 3. A similar action would be taken in the South Bank area by both sides. These are mutual and reciprocal steps and any structures that had been built by both sides since April 2020 in both North and South Bank area will be removed and the landforms will be restored. It has also been agreed to have a temporary moratorium on military activities by both sides in the North Bank, including patrolling to the traditional areas. Patrolling will be resumed only when both sides reach an agreement in diplomatic and military talks that would be held subsequently. The implementation of this agreement has started yesterday in the North and South Bank of the Pangong Lake. It will substantially restore the situation to that existing prior to commencement of the standoff last year.

13. I want to assure this House that in these talks we have not conceded anything. The House should also know that there are still some outstanding issues with regard to deployment and patrolling at some other points along the LAC in Eastern Ladakh. These will be the focus of further discussions with the Chinese side. We have agreed that both sides should achieve complete disengagement at the earliest and abide fully by the bilateral agreements and protocols. By now, the Chinese side is also fully aware of our resolve. It is therefore our expectation that the Chinese side will work with us in full sincerity to resolve these remaining issues.

Hon’ble Chairman,

I would like this House to join me in paying gratitude to our armed forces who have shown grit and resolve under these extremely harsh climatic conditions of Ladakh which has resulted in the present agreement.Our Nation will always remember the sacrifices made by our brave soldiers which has been the foundation of this disengagement at Pangong Tso Lake.

Hon’bleChairman,

I am confident that this entire House, irrespective of political affiliations, is united together for upholding our sovereignty, unity, territorial integrity and national security. And further, this House is one in sending out the same message demonstrating the strength and unity of our Nation to the entire world.

I have a couple of questions:

1. Where does the DM say that strategic heights captured by Indian Army will not vacated? I am pretty sure that CCP/PLA will not budge unless GoI and IA promises them to vacate those heights?

2. If as per the terms of disengagement, the PLA will not patrol west of Finger 8 and IA will not patrol east of finger 3, does that mean Sirijap too will be vacated? I looked at the map and saw that Sirijap is west of Finger 8.