India-China 2020 Border conflict

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Ya'll Nibbiars As per reports, PLA has proposed removal of Tanks & Artillery from standoff points first & then disengagement. This is in favour of PLA as they have good road network & can mobilise in less time again. Indian side has called for complete disengagement.

Frontal Assault.
It will be a peak clownery if we admit to these. They know their type 15 are no match to T90 & T72. Better would be if we ask to remove their SAM & Rocket forces first.
 

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saw a video they look like toys? Chinese used heat seeking drones against Indians at Galwan it did not save them Indians still slaughtered scores of Chinamen.
Valid argument, The video released by china of the swarm drone is in concept similar to the Israeli Swarm drones (@rajfortyseven on twitter) however for them out of 100s of those drones only few have to work. Even if 10 % of them work it will be a nightmare.

We would have to develop ways to jam the signal or fry the seeker circuits of these drones in a cheap way.

Found this piece by retired Major general.

 

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Ya'll Nibbiars As per reports, PLA has proposed removal of Tanks & Artillery from standoff points first & then disengagement. This is in favour of PLA as they have good road network & can mobilise in less time again. Indian side has called for complete disengagement.

Frontal Assault.
Most likely PLA is lying, and the whole disengagement thing is deception. The air gets denser in the winter, allowing PLAAF bombers operating from higher altitude air fields to take off with heavier loads. Chinese are stalling until winter, because they think it gives them the greatest advantage. Chinese know they wouldn't last in a fair fight with better trained Indian soldiers, so they are trying to use the harsh winter weather to even the odds.
 
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Valid argument, The video released by china of the swarm drone is in concept similar to the Israeli Swarm drones (@rajfortyseven on twitter) however for them out of 100s of those drones only few have to work. Even if 10 % of them work it will be a nightmare.

We would have to develop ways to jam the signal or fry the seeker circuits of these drones in a cheap way.

Found this piece by retired Major general.



DroneShield receives order from a Five Eyes


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Valid argument, The video released by china of the swarm drone is in concept similar to the Israeli Swarm drones (@rajfortyseven on twitter) however for them out of 100s of those drones only few have to work. Even if 10 % of them work it will be a nightmare.

We would have to develop ways to jam the signal or fry the seeker circuits of these drones in a cheap way.

Found this piece by retired Major general.

there was a link posted here some time back of ex-army discussing the ways to deal with it.
 

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It will be a peak clownery if we admit to these. They know their type 15 are no match to T90 & T72. Better would be if we ask to remove their SAM & Rocket forces first.
Wonder why the Chinese cannot deploy their type 96 or 99 to Ladakh. Is this a logistics issue or because these wont work well in low oxygen regions ? We should tell them that Indian tanks will stay for a while till our infra in that region is complete. We must have spent a lot in getting our tanks there and have to do paisa vasooli in form of reduced threat till our infra is complete.

For disengagement, the distance should be calculated using potential speed of engagement. For example, if the Chinese can mobilize twice as fast, they should be asked to push twice as far behind to neutralize the mobility advantage.
 

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Iska make in India upay dhoondna hoga.
Do not trust the phoren supplier
It is ridiculous and shameful that both the public and private sector in India cannot develop and manufacture good quality winter clothing and accessories. It is not a high technology item.

It shows that our priorities are misplaced. The DRDO needs to develop the desirable quality clothing at the earliest. Before thinking of 6th generation jets, we need to ensure that our troops are provided with the basic requirements like winter clothing for snow bound regions, winter shoes etc.

Even reading reports about us desperately buying American and European winter clothing and accessories is demoralising. Is developing winter clothing 5th generation technology. Or is it because Imports lead to commissions and kickbacks. Why don't the Tatas, Birlas, Ambanis etc accept this challenge to make India self sufficient in winter clothing. There will be a steady demand for the same from the Army.

Reverse engineer the so called superior winter clothing developed by the West if we cannot develop on our own. Got to appreciate the Chinese(I hate them) for not facing this kind of problem.
 

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It is ridiculous and shameful that both the public and private sector in India cannot develop and manufacture good quality winter clothing and accessories. It is not a high technology item.

It shows that our priorities are misplaced. The DRDO needs to develop the desirable quality clothing at the earliest. Before thinking of 6th generation jets, we need to ensure that our troops are provided with the basic requirements like winter clothing for snow bound regions, winter shoes etc.

Even reading reports about us desperately buying American and European winter clothing and accessories is demoralising. Is developing winter clothing 5th generation technology. Or is it because Imports lead to commissions and kickbacks. Why don't the Tatas, Birlas, Ambanis etc accept this challenge to make India self sufficient in winter clothing. There will be a steady demand for the same from the Army.

Reverse engineer the so called superior winter clothing developed by the West if we cannot develop on our own. Got to appreciate the Chinese(I hate them) for not facing this kind of problem.
And what if the imported winter clothings are cheaper than those produced in India they Have economy of scale they mass produce it and have the ability to produce it quickly do we have that kind of capability?
 

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It is ridiculous and shameful that both the public and private sector in India cannot develop and manufacture good quality winter clothing and accessories. It is not a high technology item.

It shows that our priorities are misplaced. The DRDO needs to develop the desirable quality clothing at the earliest. Before thinking of 6th generation jets, we need to ensure that our troops are provided with the basic requirements like winter clothing for snow bound regions, winter shoes etc.

Even reading reports about us desperately buying American and European winter clothing and accessories is demoralising. Is developing winter clothing 5th generation technology. Or is it because Imports lead to commissions and kickbacks. Why don't the Tatas, Birlas, Ambanis etc accept this challenge to make India self sufficient in winter clothing. There will be a steady demand for the same from the Army.

Reverse engineer the so called superior winter clothing developed by the West if we cannot develop on our own. Got to appreciate the Chinese(I hate them) for not facing this kind of problem.
Absolute shame. No way in hell can I believe that there is not a single Indian company that can make cold weather clothing. Where were we getting out cold weather gear for siachen and other places before? This is completely on the procurement agencies if they are still importing equipment that we have always been in need of (and probably in exchange of some kickback).

Fuck I have a sewing machine and I can very well reverse engineer a fucking polar jacket in a few weeks. And I barely know how to sew.
 

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And what if the imported winter clothings are cheaper than those produced in India they Have economy of scale they mass produce it and have the ability to produce it quickly do we have that kind of capability?
With that attitude we will never make anything at home. It will ALWAYS be cheaper for established players.
 

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The context is different now.He means vigilance during talks and no compromise from our side.
Yea I got that when I read the article but my point was on the actions before had we remained on alert back then we wouldn't be in this situation at all.
 

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