India-China 2020 Border conflict

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Nibba can you read Chinese? i can't.
Translation pls.
It says something along the lines of "if the US baits us more, rather than attacking US, we must attack a US-ally (described as an eager pet dog), to send the Americans a warning."

Don't think India can be described as a "pet dog of the US." Like I said, chicom perception warfare strategy is miserably failing, and by arresting Rajeev Sharma, we've sent them a message that we're watching all their "pet dogs" in the Indian media (and their chicom handlers), and we don't care about our "press freedom" perception in arresting them.
 

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It says something along the lines of "if the US baits us more, rather than attacking US, we must attack a US-ally (described as a eager pet dog), to send the Americans a warning."

Don't think India can be described as a "pet dog of the US."
Not to a rational spectator no, but the CCP and Hans surely do think like this :pound:

Come to think of it the only ezily whackable country that is US doge close to China is Philipines.
Japan Korea is not that easy, since they have good enough armed forces and US bases.
Sun Tchu ke chele don't want any escalation you see, win without fighting and all.

By the way, since Nepal is being discussed a lot, this is something we should be going to town on, both in terms of the country's communication strategy, and in terms of subconventional movement/opinion building on the ground in Nepal:

Better make a right wing political party also in Nepal, something to combat Commie party
Both commie party factions of Oli and Prachanda have been purchased by CCP money, so even public opinion changes won't cause actual change on the ground.
Also Bharat sarkar needs to boost out economy somehow, Chinese encircling us simply by waving wads of $$$ infront of Oli, Rajapaksa, maybe Sheikh Hasina also.
 

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Not to a rational spectator no, but the CCP and Hans surely do think like this :pound:

Come to think of it the only ezily whackable country that is US doge close to China is Philipines.
Japan Korea is not that easy, since they have good enough armed forces and US bases.
Sun Tchu ke chele don't want any escalation you see, win without fighting and all.
Just my opinion, but I think Taiwan fits this description. China gets to hurt US the most (and call many of its strategic bluffs), by attacking Taiwan. Maybe not the main island, but satellites like Kinmen.

If China is able to call the American strategic bluff of protecting Taiwan at all costs, it's game over for ROC. Americans consider Taiwan to be a red line (beyond which US direct action against China is guaranteed). Imagine if PRC can take over Taiwan-controlled territory and the Ameicans are like "well shit...uh, we promise to defend the main island. Can we uh, try economic sanctions instead?" And even there American bandwidth will be very limited (no more Chinese-made toothbrushes at Costco? Republicans will bleed campaign monies).

If the Americans cannot demonstrate direct action against PRC as consequence for a PRC attack on ROC, then ROC will willingly accede to PRC.
 

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Just my opinion, but I think Taiwan fits this description. China gets to hurt US the most (and call many of its strategic bluffs), by attacking Taiwan. Maybe not the main island, but satellites like Kinmen.

If China is able to call the American strategic bluff of protecting Taiwan at all costs, it's game over for ROC. Americans consider Taiwan to be a red line (beyond which US direct action against China is guaranteed). Imagine if PRC can take over Taiwan-controlled territory and the Ameicans are like "well shit...uh, we promise to defend the main island. Can we uh, try economic sanctions instead?" And even there American bandwidth will be very limited (no more Chinese-made toothbrushes at Costco? Republicans will bleed campaign monies).
Taiwan is lost to PRC then most of the mobile phones, computers, servers and anything which depends on the supply of ICs is in jeopardy, TSMC of Taiwan is pretty much the #1 for all high end electronics IC production, and Taiwan also have many other high end IC fabrication plants.

Losing Taiwan to PRC will give the PRChinks a very solid but temporary advantage, don't think US would allow this.
But knowing the Globalists anything is possible.

I fucking hate this timeline, it seems as if Ching chongs can get anything that they want unopposed.
 

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Not to a rational spectator no, but the CCP and Hans surely do think like this :pound:

Come to think of it the only ezily whackable country that is US doge close to China is Philipines.
Japan Korea is not that easy, since they have good enough armed forces and US bases.
Sun Tchu ke chele don't want any escalation you see, win without fighting and all.



Better make a right wing political party also in Nepal, something to combat Commie party
Both commie party factions of Oli and Prachanda have been purchased by CCP money, so even public opinion changes won't cause actual change on the ground.
Also Bharat sarkar needs to boost out economy somehow, Chinese encircling us simply by waving wads of $$$ infront of Oli, Rajapaksa, maybe Sheikh Hasina also.
Doesn't Chinese call us Ahsan ? Pet-Dog might be for Taiwan.
 

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Not to a rational spectator no, but the CCP and Hans surely do think like this :pound:

Come to think of it the only ezily whackable country that is US doge close to China is Philipines.
Japan Korea is not that easy, since they have good enough armed forces and US bases.
Sun Tchu ke chele don't want any escalation you see, win without fighting and all.



Better make a right wing political party also in Nepal, something to combat Commie party
Both commie party factions of Oli and Prachanda have been purchased by CCP money, so even public opinion changes won't cause actual change on the ground.
Also Bharat sarkar needs to boost out economy somehow, Chinese encircling us simply by waving wads of $$$ infront of Oli, Rajapaksa, maybe Sheikh Hasina also.
Commies in Nepal are part of ultra Nationalism concept. There is no right party or left thing there. Irreversible blunder was made when monarchy was disbanded. There is no undoing it now.
 

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Commies in Nepal are part of ultra Nationalism concept. There is no right party or left thing there. Irreversible blunder was made when monarchy was disbanded. There is no undoing it now.
Ultra Nationalism against India you mean.
They don't seem to have a problem against being vassalized to China, and losing land
 

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Commies in Nepal are part of ultra Nationalism concept. There is no right party or left thing there. Irreversible blunder was made when monarchy was disbanded. There is no undoing it now.
Ya'll Nibbiars You are forgetting about the RPP.
 

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Ultra Nationalism against India you mean.
They don't seem to have a problem against being vassalized to China, and losing land
Yes its a fashion in South Asia... Going against India is the new nationalism. In Bangladesh, Sri lanka this is the issue most of the times. Rajapkasa is now PM of SL who has always been Anti India. Nepal is new in the list.
 

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Ultra Nationalism against India you mean.
They don't seem to have a problem against being vassalized to China, and losing land
They take pride in being an independent country china has manipulated them into thinking that they are so strong and powerful that even India couldn't take them.

When in reality we simply have no interest in them.

Infact if I remember correctly nehru even rejected their request of merging.
 

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They take pride in being an independent country china has manipulated them into thinking that they are so strong and powerful that even India couldn't take them.

When in reality we simply have no interest in them.

Infact if I remember correctly nehru even rejected their request of merging.
To teach them a lesson we need to take on China.
To teach China a lesson we need to take on CPEC.
 

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our commies should take note from them.
our commies are a bourgeois brahmin concept( basically like the bong Bhadralok, but not limited to just bongs now ), they exist to be contrarian intellectual lefties rather than actually being serious about acquiring national level power.

The commies who actually acquire total power slide into being fascist nationalism very quickly lmao.
It's almost as most marxist "muh freedom" bullshit is against nation building and national unity.

USSR went from disgusting weak hippie paradise in the '20s under lenin and trotsky rule to high energy authoritarian state with purges and forced industrial labour, awards for producing lots of babies, and massive land-grab attempts etc under Stalin rule.

RW authoritarianism guarantees survival of the State, Azadi azadi ad infinitum is for destroying the existing state
 

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Commies in Nepal are part of ultra Nationalism concept. There is no right party or left thing there. Irreversible blunder was made when monarchy was disbanded. There is no undoing it now.
The thing about commie regimes, or any totalitarian regime for that matter, is they're always up for the highest bidder. This is by design, because in a totalitarian system there is no opposition or civil society to provide checks-and-balances against the ruling regime. USSR midwifed PRC formation by backing the CCP. For the right price, CCP dumped USSR for the US. Likewise, the commie regime in Vietnam dumped PRC for the US. The commie regime in Myanmar dumped PRC for the US (and is neutral to India).

The Nepalese commie regime is very malleable; provided we're able to demonstrate to them that association with China is costly, i.e., Chinese benevolence is costlier than Indian belligerence (and that geography doesn't allow the opposite viz Indian benevolence being costlier than Chinese belligerence, since Nepal has India on three accessible sides and China on a mountainous side.).

But to start talking to Oli in a language he understands, India must stop this "roti boti ka rishta" bullcrap.
 

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Talks are underway...It looks like its about implementation of the 5 point agreement.
My assessment is we are now heading into a stalemate, unless something dramatic happens (in winter)
This will slowly result into LOC-ization of LAC at a tactical ground level.
 

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