India-China 2020 Border conflict

[doreamon]

meanwhile in Nepal.

One day china ll do a cremia on nepal . And then there ll be no one to cry for . Noone to save .

 

[shade]

One day china ll do a cremia on nepal . And then there ll be no one to cry for . Noone to save .

Fun fact, Bahadurs would have no problem with that, provided they feel they are "better" than India.

 

[cereal killer]

One day china ll do a cremia on nepal . And then there ll be no one to cry for . Noone to save .

Thing is with or without Oli.. Nepal is sold to China. Commies have done all this.
Nepalis do deserve it though. A solid punch by China will hopefully change public mood there.

 

[fire starter]

One day china ll do a cremia on nepal . And then there ll be no one to cry for . Noone to save .

These Nepalis are fool China is capturing their territory but they are busy spreading hatred against India. Let them suffer from small country syndrome.

 

[doreamon]

Dalals #rNDTV #JNU

Has govt made ny plan for this communist menance in jnu and many other universities .. If nt we r doing a mistake . Never underestimate their influence . Kids frm these institute make a major portion of media, beaurocracy, research, academia,think tank, stand up comedy, bollywood and even army .

 

[shade]

Thing is with or without Oli.. Nepal is sold to China. Commies have done all this.
Nepalis do deserve it though. A solid punch by China will hopefully change public mood there.

These Nepalis are fool China is capturing their territory but they are busy spreading hatred against India. Let them suffer from small country syndrome.

They are not fools, neither are the Lankans or Banglas, their hate for Bharat is just overwhelming, they will make deals and bendover to the Yellow Devil just to "get even" with Bharat.
Aside from Sheikh Hasina who is forever ruler of Kangladesh, in the other two countries they literally win elections based on anti-India sentiment.

 

[Dessert Storm]

No but I have heard from some so called analysts that Pakistan despite being poor in comparison to India has managed to be at par with and even better than India in millitary preparedness

Presuming the preparedness is good. Will they fight when it comes to that. PA as a business conglomerate was worth $20 billion in 2007 n the reason why they would rather do 'the thousand wounds'.

Pakistan is desperately poor. Its army is rich beyond belief. How come?

There's a lot more to Pakistan's constant aggression towards India. It's a useful veil for one of Pakistan's most stark truths, about how its army has taken over its biggest businesses.

www.google.com

 

[Shashank Nayak]

Thing is India is not in any sort of alliance with US. So Uncle Sam is not dumb to give 5 billion $ to India for free. They have their economy to look after as well. Trump was gushing so much after he secured 3bn $ defence spending from us on his recent tour. So they are always looking for a pound of flesh.
Our own MIC is in a very poor shape to handle two active borders for a decade. We still rely on heavy arms imports so any sort of cut there is detrimental. I'd rather like to see a short war with China now rather than to man the borders. Armies are for fighting wars not to do a policing job.

A short war or a long war with China will guarantee a heavily manned Indo-China border for decades to come

 

[Dessert Storm]

A short war or a long war with China will guarantee a heavily manned Indo-China border for decades to come

I for one believe, that may not be the case. When ever this one happens, it would be to settle a lot of issues other than just the boundary with (just) China. Agree to the heavily manned part.

 

[bajiraopeshwa]

Thing is India is not in any sort of alliance with US. So Uncle Sam is not dumb to give 5 billion $ to India for free. They have their economy to look after as well. Trump was gushing so much after he secured 3bn $ defence spending from us on his recent tour. So they are always looking for a pound of flesh.
Our own MIC is in a very poor shape to handle two active borders for a decade. We still rely on heavy arms imports so any sort of cut there is detrimental. I'd rather like to see a short war with China now rather than to man the borders. Armies are for fighting wars not to do a policing job.

The $5 billion is if Uncle Sam wants India to handle Afghanistan so that he can focus on China. If not then Uncle Sam will be tied down in a country whose GDP is not perhaps equal to the smallest American city. Also the $ 5 billion does not have to come as direct cash. Discounts on weapons will work equally well.

India can afford to man the borders better than the Chinese and wait out the winter. China has nothing close to the kind of Airlift capability we have in Ladakh Sector. Apart from the Russian An and Il, we now have the C-17 and the C130-J not to forget the Chinooks. The Chinese are no match in this regard atleast. Yes they have tiny drones that deliver hot meals but that is cinema stuff.

The short war could still happen but because Xi gets frustrated. The Chinese will be mowed down in the Spangur gap and perhaps even on Pangong Tso. Depsang is well protected and we have enough armour there. It is a no-win for them and my reading is that they will quietly go back. Lets see.

 

[Cheran]

Major Chinese Hack, read fully:-

Chinese hackers crack India’s top defence secrets

The computer systems of scores of Indian embassies, military establishments and corporate bodies, as well as the email account of the Dalai Lama, were hacked by a Chinese cyber spy ring, report HT Correspondents. What the Shadow knows

www.hindustantimes.com

The Chinese hackers stole foreign ministry reports on India’s policy in West Africa, Russia and West Asia. They got
National Security Council secretariat assessments of security situations in Assam, Nagaland, Tripura and Manipur as well as the Maoist problem.

The penetration of India’s defence establishments was remarkable. Three air force bases, two military colleges and an array of military institutes like the Army Institute of Technology, Pune, were broken into.

The Canadian team saw the hackers access over 300 military documents

"This is a very serious, broad spectrum assault," said strategic technology expert Ajay Lele, whose own agency, the Institute for Defence and Security Analysis (IDSA), was robbed of 180 documents.

The Shadow Network broke into computers of analysts and stole reports on India’s missile systems. It hacked those of
academics and journalists for work on Kashmir. Data was also stolen from firms like Tata and DLF. The Canadians informed

Indian intelligence on March 24 and were instructed on how to dispose of the classified data.

Let's not wish Dalai Lama or Taiwanese President, akhir Cheen kya sochenge? We must take care of their sensitivities.

 

[shade]

The $5 billion is if Uncle Sam wants India to handle Afghanistan so that he can focus on China. If not then Uncle Sam will be tied down in a country whose GDP is not perhaps equal to the smallest American city. Also the $ 5 billion does not have to come as direct cash. Discounts on weapons will work equally well.

India can afford to man the borders better than the Chinese and wait out the winter. China has nothing close to the kind of Airlift capability we have in Ladakh Sector. Apart from the Russian An and Il, we now have the C-17 and the C130-J not to forget the Chinooks. The Chinese are no match in this regard atleast. Yes they have tiny drones that deliver hot meals but that is cinema stuff.

The short war could still happen but because Xi gets frustrated. The Chinese will be mowed down in the Spangur gap and perhaps even on Pangong Tso. Depsang is well protected and we have enough armour there. It is a no-win for them and my reading is that they will quietly go back. Lets see.

They will go back and then re-appear to landgrab somewhere else in a few months.
They seem to be too tied up in the Sun Tchu meme of winning without fighting.

 

[shade]

Major Chinese Hack, read fully:-

Chinese hackers crack India’s top defence secrets

The computer systems of scores of Indian embassies, military establishments and corporate bodies, as well as the email account of the Dalai Lama, were hacked by a Chinese cyber spy ring, report HT Correspondents. What the Shadow knows

www.hindustantimes.com

Let's not wish Dalai Lama or Taiwanese President, akhir Cheen kya sochenge? We must take care of their sensitivities.

Hack from 2010, report also from 2010

That's not to say they aren't continuing these 1337 h4x even today tho.

 

[ezsasa]

A short war or a long war with China will guarantee a heavily manned Indo-China border for decades to come

Irrespective of a military conflict, LAC needs to be manned for next two-three years anyways, given the backlash CCP is facing on diplomatic and trade fronts from rest of the world. The more insecure CCP becomes, more the chances of lashing out using PLA.

 

[Nationalist Manasvi Papa]

Guys if we increased our defence budget to 5% of our GDP for 5 years, will China do the same?

 

[Dessert Storm]

These Nepalis are fool China is capturing their territory but they are busy spreading hatred against India. Let them suffer from small country syndrome.

Let them suffer is ok. But what about the buffer. We need to actively intervene and turn it around.

 

[shade]

Guys if we increased our defence budget to 5% of our GDP for 5 years, will China do the same?

No need.
Their 3% is probably equal to our 10%

List of countries with highest military expenditures - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Wikipedia has a chart
China spends 1.9% of GDP on Military that is $260 billion.
India spends 2.4% of GDP on military that is $71 billion.

Chinese defense spending is targeted towards parity with US, India is to them what Kangladesh is to India, according to their arrogance.

 

[Dessert Storm]

Major Chinese Hack, read fully:-

Chinese hackers crack India’s top defence secrets

The computer systems of scores of Indian embassies, military establishments and corporate bodies, as well as the email account of the Dalai Lama, were hacked by a Chinese cyber spy ring, report HT Correspondents. What the Shadow knows

www.hindustantimes.com

Let's not wish Dalai Lama or Taiwanese President, akhir Cheen kya sochenge? We must take care of their sensitivities.

What makes you think that these two are catering to the sensitivities of the Indians. That PM did not reply, sticks out like a sore thumb. Given its so apparent..... make a guess. 'Pandering' to the sensitivities of anybody is not good. By you statements you are meaning to say Taiwan kya socheyga? It's diplomacy. Realignment is give n take. That's what's happening.

 

[bajiraopeshwa]

They will go back and then re-appear to landgrab somewhere else in a few months.
They seem to be too tied up in the Sun Tchu meme of winning without fighting.

If the Chinese go back or even just stay on the LAC, it is a big tactical defeat for the Chinese. No superpower does such a huge deployment and then says - Sorry we lost our way and are going back. The Chinese will become a laughing stock if they go back or even if they just dig and stay put. Also those who import Chinese weapons will wonder if the Chinese backed out because of their inferior weapons.

The Chinese have boxed themselves into a very bad situation. Call it a miscalculation or a rush of blood or whatever, if they dont fight from this point it is going to look very bad for them. All the same, if they fight also it is going to look bad. Either way they are in a soup.

 

[Nationalist Manasvi Papa]

No need.
Their 3% is probably equal to our 10%

List of countries with highest military expenditures - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Wikipedia has a chart
China spends 1.9% of GDP on Military that is $260 billion.
India spends 2.4% of GDP on military that is $71 billion.

Chinese defense spending is targeted towards parity with US, India is to them what Kangladesh is to India, according to their arrogance.

I saw a WION report that Chinese GDP is highly inflated.
CCP is taking loans from their sarkaari banks to keep the GDP.
Cyna is country of fakes.
Their GDP is much smaller and their growth is highly inflated.