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German technology was a joke
In a short war, we'll immediately lose DBO due to lackluster infrastructure, which'll allow China to put Siachen under pressure, and that's without the Pakistanis. Don't even get me started on the chicken's neck
We have blacktopped road till DBO. The terrain of DBO/Depsang allows us to do a lot of offroading.
We have stationed huge columns of armor and artillery in Depsang and DBO because we exactly know DBO is threatened and our supply lines are stretched.

And please start on Chicken's neck. Tell me how China can threaten Chicken's neck.

Or they can bomb those positions out of existence with precision munitions, artillery, and those bombers they have.
Damn, if only there was something called counter-offensive. If only we had something, like our own artillery and precision munition, and bombers, who, maybe can threaten China's precision munitions, artillery, and bombers.
Alas, such things are not available in India.

I mean, there must be an option other than just looking awkwardly up the sky when China bombs those positions out of existence.
 

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AMAZING news 😍😍

12th round of corps commander talks have ended with China agreeing to move back from gogra , depsang .

looks like its over fellas.

The latest round of talks will take place after a gap of three months. Indian military delegates met their counterparts to discuss disengagement of troops at the friction areas such as the Hot Springs, Gogra and the Depsang plains spread over 900 sq km land.Talks ended with both sides agreeing to further disengagement at all friction points - Hot Springs , Gogra and Depsang.A statement to this effect will made and further meetings will be conducted in the manner with which disengagement will be carried out.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/india-china-agrees-to-full-disengagement-talks-end-successfully-101627645870600.html
:facepalm::facepalm::eric::eric::rage::rage::rage::rage:
 

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some stuff i posted on twitter

we occupied the peaks in galwan , it was in news but i never saw the trail

PP14 below , our yellow line is trail up , crazy impressive rite. we can all their post from top.

we occupied ridge on may 28th , left after disengagement.

i posted this because i never seen it , and i thought it was impressive but Gen Pang himself came and shit on it. 😕



from weibo

presentation given by pakisanit officer to chinese officials about that bus bombing



they had vid from inside bus , looks like pakistan knew it was terror attack

the car seen below was carrying bomb , no car wreckage or dead body or suicide bomber , strange.

Nathan (aus osint guy) posted this thing back in the day.

This blast is done by Pakis themselves to shift blame on india
 

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This blast is done by Pakis themselves to shift blame on india
Maybe by China themselves using proxies.

The aim is to send more troops in cover for providing security to its assets. Already their citizens are toting AKs.
 

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The Chinese are lucky to have us neighbours.

Despite their claims of infrastructure and what not they have kilometres of empty land ready to be taken.

They wouldn't have been this lucky if they had someone else as their neighbours.

This also shows how relaxed china is in terms of defense spending. Despite having such large empty borders they don't man them because they know we won't push into their areas.
Why china whole neighborhood knows India won't take any inch of land such are the mahatma's in our parliament and gorment
In the name of secularism
 

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Maybe by China themselves using proxies.

The aim is to send more troops in cover for providing security to its assets. Already their citizens are toting AKs.
They are not citizens. Just FYI - China frowns on private gun ownership. Average Chinese people are not allowed to handle firearms. Even air soft guns are prohibited. Only the party or security apparatus allowed guns.
 

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AMAZING news 😍😍

12th round of corps commander talks have ended with China agreeing to move back from gogra , depsang .

looks like its over fellas.

The latest round of talks will take place after a gap of three months. Indian military delegates met their counterparts to discuss disengagement of troops at the friction areas such as the Hot Springs, Gogra and the Depsang plains spread over 900 sq km land.Talks ended with both sides agreeing to further disengagement at all friction points - Hot Springs , Gogra and Depsang.A statement to this effect will made and further meetings will be conducted in the manner with which disengagement will be carried out.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/india-china-agrees-to-full-disengagement-talks-end-successfully-101627645870600.html
Both the countries reached the correct decision at the right time when the focus shifted to Afghanistan.
 

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Rumint news : A PLAAF aircraft crashed yesterday during night operation. Can someone check out in weibo for confirmation @mokoman

no idea if its true.



On the evening of July 30, a plane crashed and exploded in Lianjiang, Zhanjiang, Guangdong! A military vehicle appeared at the scene of the incident, and the suspected aircraft was a military aircraft.

In the video, a CCP military vehicle appeared at the scene of the incident, full of soldiers and loaded with live ammunition, as if it were on the verge of an enemy.

There was a lot of discussion among the people nearby. Some said: "The plane fell from the sky and exploded. It happened to be next to the hospital building. It's dangerous!" Some said, "The plane fell on the edge of the hospital. It's dangerous." A lady said, "I'm still taking a shower. Well, the plane fell."

The video shows that from a distance, the raging flames that ignited where the plane crashed reflected a building in red. It doesn't look like a small airplane.
 

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I know he’s a very big hacker, but that doesn’t mean he is some biggie who has the ”haisiyat” to make such bold predictions.

Edit: He wants to say that Chinese cyber attack was the reason for the Chandrayaan rover hard landing and China is responsible for both rocket (there was a chinese rocket though, he implies it means Isro c-yaan) and covid like some shit.
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Last time I checked, the Chinese enjoy superior artillery and armor and not us. You really expect success out of T-72s with their mango rounds and outdated subsystems, or from our current inventory of artillery? Not to mention, when was the last time the Indian military practiced a combined arms exercise that also wasn't a 'go through the motions' deal? In fact, since we're talking maneuver warfare with the "offroading" here, how well developed is the Indian military's real time intelligence apparatus? seeing as how an offensive requires proper scouting. Hell, how's the Indian military's intelligence apparatus in general with how Galwan panned out? How do you plan to maintain supply of this huge element of yours on roads alone?
The only thing keeping us ahead is our infrastructure for the Air force, and even that's going to be irrelevant in due time.
The last time you checked, you were misguided by Chinese propaganda (unfortunately propagated by our own anti-national media).

Last time I checked, the Chinese enjoy superior artillery and armor and not us. You really expect success out of T-72s with their mango rounds and outdated subsystems, or from our current inventory of artillery?
Chinese enjoy superior artillery - let's break that down to facts :-
  • Chinese enjoy better rocket artillery than us, yes. The majority of their rocket artillery is unguided with CEP of more than 50m (some even 100m). Even their guided missiles have cep ~30m.

    And that is nearly useless. Area bombardment works in plains, on mountains, deviation of 30 meters can mean 500m downhill. We understood this fact in Kargil as our unguided bombs and heavy artillery was having minimal effects.

  • A large chunk of Chinese howitzers is self-propelled (vehicle-mounted). Vehicles in the mountains have limited mobility.

  • We are on par or even better in light-medium howitzers than China. M777s give us an edge in remote operations where roads are not accessible to push towed artillery or vehicle-mounted artillery.
Chinese enjoy superior armor - true, not denying that. But,
  • We are now using DRDOs APSFDS with RHA penetration 500mm at a 2km distance instead of Mango.
  • ATGMs (9M119 Svir) launched from T90s/T72s can penetrate 900mm RHA.
  • ATGMs from BMP-2s can penetrate 800mm RHA.
We are not hopeless. It is enough to defend the borders.

Not to mention, when was the last time the Indian military practiced a combined arms exercise that also wasn't a 'go through the motions' deal?
What? Indian armed forces always keep on doing short-theatre level exercises you never hear of. Last year after Galwan we had a huge combined armed exercise throughout the whole eastern border with China.

In fact, since we're talking maneuver warfare with the "offroading" here, how well developed is the Indian military's real-time intelligence apparatus?
We have satellites in the sky, drones (both short and long endurance), and we have America providing us real-time intelligence.

In fact, during the capture of Rezang La and adjoining ranges, China actually planned to pull it off first, but we detected their movement first and outran them to the peak.

seeing as how an offensive requires proper scouting. Hell, how's the Indian military's intelligence apparatus in general with how Galwan panned out?
What was the intelligence issue in galwan exactly? They killed our colonel in guise of diplomacy and then our troops fought till death. Where is intelligence required here?

How do you plan to maintain supply of this huge element of yours on roads alone?
The only thing keeping us ahead is our infrastructure for the Air force, and even that's going to be irrelevant in due time.
? We have roads as well as pretty decent airlifting capacity which actually outmatches China. And how air force is going to be irrelevant?
Tell me how China plans to maintain its long supply lines and keep its huge army well-supplied? Our supply routes are much shorter and population centers are close. The same is not true for China.

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Baseless ranting of yours high on Chinese kool-aid, having a bad day?
 

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The last time you checked, you were misguided by Chinese propaganda (unfortunately propagated by our own anti-national media).



Chinese enjoy superior artillery - let's break that down to facts :-
  • Chinese enjoy better rocket artillery than us, yes. The majority of their rocket artillery is unguided with CEP of more than 50m (some even 100m). Even their guided missiles have cep ~30m.

    And that is nearly useless. Area bombardment works in plains, on mountains, deviation of 30 meters can mean 500m downhill. We understood this fact in Kargil as our unguided bombs and heavy artillery was having minimal effects.

  • A large chunk of Chinese howitzers is self-propelled (vehicle-mounted). Vehicles in the mountains have limited mobility.

  • We are on par or even better in light-medium howitzers than China. M777s give us an edge in remote operations where roads are not accessible to push towed artillery or vehicle-mounted artillery.
Chinese enjoy superior armor - true, not denying that. But,
  • We are now using DRDOs APSFDS with RHA penetration 500mm at a 2km distance instead of Mango.
  • ATGMs (9M119 Svir) launched from T90s/T72s can penetrate 900mm RHA.
  • ATGMs from BMP-2s can penetrate 800mm RHA.
We are not hopeless. It is enough to defend the borders.



What? Indian armed forces always keep on doing short-theatre level exercises you never hear of. Last year after Galwan we had a huge combined armed exercise throughout the whole eastern border with China.



We have satellites in the sky, drones (both short and long endurance), and we have America providing us real-time intelligence.

In fact, during the capture of Rezang La and adjoining ranges, China actually planned to pull it off first, but we detected their movement first and outran them to the peak.



What was the intelligence issue in galwan exactly? They killed our colonel in guise of diplomacy and then our troops fought till death. Where is intelligence required here?



? We have roads as well as pretty decent airlifting capacity which actually outmatches China. And how air force is going to be irrelevant?
Tell me how China plans to maintain its long supply lines and keep its huge army well-supplied? Our supply routes are much shorter and population centers are close. The same is not true for China.

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Baseless ranting of yours high on Chinese kool-aid, having a bad day?
What more to expect from gucci gang. They are always high on propaganda videos and pictures.
 

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I know he’s a very big hacker, but that doesn’t mean he is some biggie who has the ”haisiyat” to make such bold predictions.

Edit: He wants to say that Chinese cyber attack was the reason for the Chandrayaan rover hard landing and China is responsible for both rocket (there was a chinese rocket though, he implies it means Isro c-yaan) and covid like some shit.
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Actually he just like all other Indian Hacktivist mostly focused on web server intrutions, that's pretty much big thing considering other wannbe Indian hackers doing, but I really won't think he have to capacity or capabilities to pull out these kind of analysis on ISRO moon mission failure plus still rather than web side intrutions these loosely organised Hacktivist movement can't do much,
Ps: in conclusion for me what he doing is great but this tweet regarding ISRO mission sabotage is just crowd calling click bait
 

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The last time you checked, you were misguided by Chinese propaganda (unfortunately propagated by our own anti-national media).



Chinese enjoy superior artillery - let's break that down to facts :-
  • Chinese enjoy better rocket artillery than us, yes. The majority of their rocket artillery is unguided with CEP of more than 50m (some even 100m). Even their guided missiles have cep ~30m.

    And that is nearly useless. Area bombardment works in plains, on mountains, deviation of 30 meters can mean 500m downhill. We understood this fact in Kargil as our unguided bombs and heavy artillery was having minimal effects.

  • A large chunk of Chinese howitzers is self-propelled (vehicle-mounted). Vehicles in the mountains have limited mobility.

  • We are on par or even better in light-medium howitzers than China. M777s give us an edge in remote operations where roads are not accessible to push towed artillery or vehicle-mounted artillery.
Chinese enjoy superior armor - true, not denying that. But,
  • We are now using DRDOs APSFDS with RHA penetration 500mm at a 2km distance instead of Mango.
  • ATGMs (9M119 Svir) launched from T90s/T72s can penetrate 900mm RHA.
  • ATGMs from BMP-2s can penetrate 800mm RHA.
We are not hopeless. It is enough to defend the borders.



What? Indian armed forces always keep on doing short-theatre level exercises you never hear of. Last year after Galwan we had a huge combined armed exercise throughout the whole eastern border with China.



We have satellites in the sky, drones (both short and long endurance), and we have America providing us real-time intelligence.

In fact, during the capture of Rezang La and adjoining ranges, China actually planned to pull it off first, but we detected their movement first and outran them to the peak.



What was the intelligence issue in galwan exactly? They killed our colonel in guise of diplomacy and then our troops fought till death. Where is intelligence required here?



? We have roads as well as pretty decent airlifting capacity which actually outmatches China. And how air force is going to be irrelevant?
Tell me how China plans to maintain its long supply lines and keep its huge army well-supplied? Our supply routes are much shorter and population centers are close. The same is not true for China.

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Baseless ranting of yours high on Chinese kool-aid, having a bad day?
Also too add to this we have more tanks and towed artillery than china.

Plus our 105mm is perfectly suited for mountain warfare.

India only needs to hold the Chinese to win and that we can do.
 

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no idea if its true.



On the evening of July 30, a plane crashed and exploded in Lianjiang, Zhanjiang, Guangdong! A military vehicle appeared at the scene of the incident, and the suspected aircraft was a military aircraft.

In the video, a CCP military vehicle appeared at the scene of the incident, full of soldiers and loaded with live ammunition, as if it were on the verge of an enemy.

There was a lot of discussion among the people nearby. Some said: "The plane fell from the sky and exploded. It happened to be next to the hospital building. It's dangerous!" Some said, "The plane fell on the edge of the hospital. It's dangerous." A lady said, "I'm still taking a shower. Well, the plane fell."

The video shows that from a distance, the raging flames that ignited where the plane crashed reflected a building in red. It doesn't look like a small airplane.
What nonsense all fake news.

Chinese jets are invincible just like the Titanic
 

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