India-China 2020 Border conflict

Blank

Regular Member
Joined
Jan 23, 2021
Messages
347
Likes
2,090
Country flag

indiatester

Senior Member
Joined
Jul 4, 2013
Messages
4,085
Likes
10,598
Country flag
While even us civilians control ourselves, Chinese do this.
https://www.newsweek.com/china-offi...atomic-bombing-japan-exception-theory-1609586
China Officials Share Viral Video Calling for Atomic Bombing of Japan
BY JOHN FENG ON 7/14/21 AT 11:17 AM EDT
SHARE
WORLD CHINA JAPAN TAIWAN NUCLEAR WEAPONS
Communist Party officials in northwestern China appear to be advocating a "continuous" atomic bombing of Japan after their social media account shared a controversial viral video over the weekend.




Still live on the YouTube-like platform Xigua, under an account run by the Baoji Municipal Committee of the Communist Party of China, the video calls for Beijing to launch nuclear strikes on Japan if Tokyo intervenes in a Chinese invasion of democratic Taiwan.
The five-minute clip was created by verified military commentary channel "Liujun Taolue." The original was posted on Sunday and later deleted after amassing more than 2 million views—but not before it was reposted by the official party account in Baoji, Shaanxi province.


The narrator in the video proposes a "Japan Exception Theory" that would see Tokyo exempt from China's "no first use" (NFU) nuclear policy. The footage is filled with belligerent and nationalistic rhetoric, as well as threats of nuclear war against one of China's nearest neighbors.
The commentator points to recent remarks by high-ranking Japanese officials as the motivation behind his proposal. Japan's Defense Minister Nobuo Kishi and his deputy, Yasuhide Nakayama, have spoken in support of Taiwan's security in the face of an increasingly assertive China.
Taro Aso, Japan's deputy prime minister, also made headlines last week when he suggested a Chinese attack on Taiwan would threaten Japan's survival, necessitating a collective defense of the self-ruled island with U.S. forces.
Sunday's controversial video calls on the Chinese leadership not only to retaliate against any Japanese troops that come to Taiwan's aid, but also declare all-out war against Tokyo for intervening in its "unification" plans.

"When we liberate Taiwan, if Japan dares intervene by force, even if it only sends one soldier, one plane or one ship, we will not only return fire, but also start a full-scale war against Japan," the commentary says.

"First, we will use nuclear bombs. We will continue to use nuclear bombs until Japan offers its second unconditional surrender," it adds.

"We want to strike Japan's capacity to endure war. As soon as Japan recognizes that it cannot afford to pay the price of war, it will not dare send troops to the Taiwan Strait," the narrator continues.

The clip posted by the Baoji Communist Party account has received several hundred comments, all of which appeared to support the video's proposal, which advocates a rethink of China's NFU policy amid "major changes" in its surrounding security environment.

"All policies, tactics and strategies must be adjusted," the video says. "In order to protect the peaceful rise of our country, it is necessary to make limited adjustments to our nuclear policy."


China Sends Ships to Senkakus After Japan Names Country Top Security Threat
READ MORE
China Sends Ships to Senkakus After Japan Names Country Top Security Threat
As Japan is the only country to have experienced the effects of an atomic bomb, the commentary suggests a Chinese deterrence policy in which it could launch an atomic strike under certain conditions and would prove doubly effective.

"By singling out Japan as an 'exception' to our no first use commitment, we are warning Japan and the world that if Japan intervenes militarily in our domestic affairs, including in the unification of Taiwan, nuclear weapons will be used against Japan, and will be used continuously until its unconditional surrender," the footage concludes.

The narrator also suggests China would seize the Japan-controlled Senkaku and Ryukyu islands in the process, before either taking over administrative control or allowing them to be independent.

He neither addresses the likelihood of either scenario, nor any adverse effects a nuclear strike on a nearby country would cause to China's major coastal cities.

Newsweek has contacted the Baoji Communist Party committee for comment.

1 of 5


Taiwan Intercepts Chinese Nuclear-Capable Bomber
File photo: In this image released by Taiwan's Ministry of National Defense, on February 10, 2020, a Taiwanese Air Force F-16 flies on the flank of a Chinese People's Liberation Army Air Force H-6 strategic bomber as it passes near Taiwan.TAIWAN MINISTRY OF NATIONAL DEFENSE VIA AP
 
Last edited:

Jimih

Senior Member
Joined
May 20, 2021
Messages
4,333
Likes
24,054
Country flag
While even us civilians control ourselves, Chinese do this.
https://www.newsweek.com/china-offi...atomic-bombing-japan-exception-theory-1609586
China Officials Share Viral Video Calling for Atomic Bombing of Japan
BY JOHN FENG ON 7/14/21 AT 11:17 AM EDT
SHARE
WORLD CHINA JAPAN TAIWAN NUCLEAR WEAPONS
Communist Party officials in northwestern China appear to be advocating a "continuous" atomic bombing of Japan after their social media account shared a controversial viral video over the weekend.




Still live on the YouTube-like platform Xigua, under an account run by the Baoji Municipal Committee of the Communist Party of China, the video calls for Beijing to launch nuclear strikes on Japan if Tokyo intervenes in a Chinese invasion of democratic Taiwan.
The five-minute clip was created by verified military commentary channel "Liujun Taolue." The original was posted on Sunday and later deleted after amassing more than 2 million views—but not before it was reposted by the official party account in Baoji, Shaanxi province.


The narrator in the video proposes a "Japan Exception Theory" that would see Tokyo exempt from China's "no first use" (NFU) nuclear policy. The footage is filled with belligerent and nationalistic rhetoric, as well as threats of nuclear war against one of China's nearest neighbors.
The commentator points to recent remarks by high-ranking Japanese officials as the motivation behind his proposal. Japan's Defense Minister Nobuo Kishi and his deputy, Yasuhide Nakayama, have spoken in support of Taiwan's security in the face of an increasingly assertive China.
Taro Aso, Japan's deputy prime minister, also made headlines last week when he suggested a Chinese attack on Taiwan would threaten Japan's survival, necessitating a collective defense of the self-ruled island with U.S. forces.
Sunday's controversial video calls on the Chinese leadership not only to retaliate against any Japanese troops that come to Taiwan's aid, but also declare all-out war against Tokyo for intervening in its "unification" plans.
Japanese are extremely paranoid about the Chinese and it's not a recent phenomenon, it's been there for centuries.
 

sorcerer

Senior Member
Joined
Apr 13, 2013
Messages
24,534
Likes
86,974
Country flag
So the fight happened in may 2 and he spoke about it on July 13-14 what was was he doing for 2 months eating grass?
Well!! as we can see..china always try to have a talk about border or anything by putting india under pressure on the negotiation table.
Just a day before Indian FM was to meet the chinese clown Wang, china through its stooges in Indian media and the political clown Raga unleashed a FAKE news in the indian media.
So before Jaishankar met the chinese clown...the fake news was circulating in the media

see...its all planned by china an look how many traitors we have on the inside fanning the fake propaganda for chinese
 

Jimih

Senior Member
Joined
May 20, 2021
Messages
4,333
Likes
24,054
Country flag
Well!! as we can see..china always try to have a talk about border or anything by putting india under pressure on the negotiation table.
Just a day before Indian FM was to meet the chinese clown Wang, china through its stooges in Indian media and the political clown Raga unleashed a FAKE news in the indian media.
So before Jaishankar met the chinese clown...the fake news was circulating in the media

see...its all planned by china an look how many traitors we have on the inside fanning the fake propaganda for chinese
Yes correct assessment and that really happened.
 

sorcerer

Senior Member
Joined
Apr 13, 2013
Messages
24,534
Likes
86,974
Country flag
China ready to seek ‘mutually acceptable solution’ for ‘urgent’ matters: Wang to Jaishankar


Taliban calling....
"Mutually Acceptable Solution" is what Xi asked to conveyin a public space in front of the global media to make chinese more receivable by international audience.
but
china will only try to deliver "Unilateral Solution " in real world.
 

The Shrike

Regular Member
Joined
Jun 12, 2021
Messages
235
Likes
1,208
Country flag
these are very remote locations , PLA have to be insane to do any sort of salami slicing here.
By simply looking at the geography one would think we would have an overwhelming advantage over the Chinese (since they have to scale a high mountain range to come to these area and we only have to move up along a valley), but we are still 2 steps behind and they are able to transgress with enough men to confront our side. Example this is an incident from 2019:


Chinese troops entered 12 km inside India in Arunachal: Tapir Gao

Pictures and videos from the area have now emerged which seem to point towards the alleged transgression. The incident is believed to have happened sometime during the months of July-August.

Andrella Valley falls on the northeastern side of Mipi, which is the last administrative circle of the district.


When contacted, Gao said: “It’s very insulting and sad that the Indian Army had to dismantle their summer camp which was built during a routine patrol and had to return to their base camp.”
In September, Gao made headlines for a similar claim that the Chinese Army had built a wooden bridge over Diumro Nalah in Chaglagam circle of Anjaw district in Arunachal.
 

Cheran

Senior Member
Joined
Sep 8, 2019
Messages
3,760
Likes
28,022
Country flag
Looks like a bad day for Parajai Shukla


After writing fake report on India-China clash, Ajai Shukla claims there was no official rebuttal from Indian Army, deletes tweet later

1626368041157.png


Even after a strong rebuttal issued by the Indian Army, Ajai Shukla had claimed that it was an unofficial rebuttal sent to a group of defence journalists on WhatsApp

Well:-

1626368060364.png
 

Kumata

Senior Member
Joined
Feb 27, 2019
Messages
4,991
Likes
18,848

Srinivas_K

Senior Member
Joined
Jun 17, 2009
Messages
6,963
Likes
11,055
Country flag
Japanese MNC's will shift from China, if the chinese attitudes continue.
While even us civilians control ourselves, Chinese do this.
https://www.newsweek.com/china-offi...atomic-bombing-japan-exception-theory-1609586
China Officials Share Viral Video Calling for Atomic Bombing of Japan
BY JOHN FENG ON 7/14/21 AT 11:17 AM EDT
SHARE
WORLD CHINA JAPAN TAIWAN NUCLEAR WEAPONS
Communist Party officials in northwestern China appear to be advocating a "continuous" atomic bombing of Japan after their social media account shared a controversial viral video over the weekend.




Still live on the YouTube-like platform Xigua, under an account run by the Baoji Municipal Committee of the Communist Party of China, the video calls for Beijing to launch nuclear strikes on Japan if Tokyo intervenes in a Chinese invasion of democratic Taiwan.
The five-minute clip was created by verified military commentary channel "Liujun Taolue." The original was posted on Sunday and later deleted after amassing more than 2 million views—but not before it was reposted by the official party account in Baoji, Shaanxi province.


The narrator in the video proposes a "Japan Exception Theory" that would see Tokyo exempt from China's "no first use" (NFU) nuclear policy. The footage is filled with belligerent and nationalistic rhetoric, as well as threats of nuclear war against one of China's nearest neighbors.
The commentator points to recent remarks by high-ranking Japanese officials as the motivation behind his proposal. Japan's Defense Minister Nobuo Kishi and his deputy, Yasuhide Nakayama, have spoken in support of Taiwan's security in the face of an increasingly assertive China.
Taro Aso, Japan's deputy prime minister, also made headlines last week when he suggested a Chinese attack on Taiwan would threaten Japan's survival, necessitating a collective defense of the self-ruled island with U.S. forces.
Sunday's controversial video calls on the Chinese leadership not only to retaliate against any Japanese troops that come to Taiwan's aid, but also declare all-out war against Tokyo for intervening in its "unification" plans.

"When we liberate Taiwan, if Japan dares intervene by force, even if it only sends one soldier, one plane or one ship, we will not only return fire, but also start a full-scale war against Japan," the commentary says.

"First, we will use nuclear bombs. We will continue to use nuclear bombs until Japan offers its second unconditional surrender," it adds.

"We want to strike Japan's capacity to endure war. As soon as Japan recognizes that it cannot afford to pay the price of war, it will not dare send troops to the Taiwan Strait," the narrator continues.

The clip posted by the Baoji Communist Party account has received several hundred comments, all of which appeared to support the video's proposal, which advocates a rethink of China's NFU policy amid "major changes" in its surrounding security environment.

"All policies, tactics and strategies must be adjusted," the video says. "In order to protect the peaceful rise of our country, it is necessary to make limited adjustments to our nuclear policy."


China Sends Ships to Senkakus After Japan Names Country Top Security Threat
READ MORE
China Sends Ships to Senkakus After Japan Names Country Top Security Threat
As Japan is the only country to have experienced the effects of an atomic bomb, the commentary suggests a Chinese deterrence policy in which it could launch an atomic strike under certain conditions and would prove doubly effective.

"By singling out Japan as an 'exception' to our no first use commitment, we are warning Japan and the world that if Japan intervenes militarily in our domestic affairs, including in the unification of Taiwan, nuclear weapons will be used against Japan, and will be used continuously until its unconditional surrender," the footage concludes.

The narrator also suggests China would seize the Japan-controlled Senkaku and Ryukyu islands in the process, before either taking over administrative control or allowing them to be independent.

He neither addresses the likelihood of either scenario, nor any adverse effects a nuclear strike on a nearby country would cause to China's major coastal cities.

Newsweek has contacted the Baoji Communist Party committee for comment.

1 of 5


Taiwan Intercepts Chinese Nuclear-Capable Bomber
File photo: In this image released by Taiwan's Ministry of National Defense, on February 10, 2020, a Taiwanese Air Force F-16 flies on the flank of a Chinese People's Liberation Army Air Force H-6 strategic bomber as it passes near Taiwan.TAIWAN MINISTRY OF NATIONAL DEFENSE VIA AP
 

RoaringTigerHiddenDragon

Regular Member
Joined
Sep 5, 2020
Messages
857
Likes
4,504
Country flag
Sawhney - Father of Pakistan is saying this.. wow.. Every body wants a piece of this guy Shukla.. must be an extraordinary as**ole:bplease:
One thing I want to understand is who are these guys like sawhney and shoooookla. What is their motive?

1. Are they opposition parties’ stooges places just to annoy the government?
2. Do they get payoffs from the CCP/MSS for false plants? This is a punishable offense, by the way.
3. Are they just the regular educated fools who just have to show the government in bad light, no matter what?
4. Was shoooookla denied any promotions/postings in the Army? Does he have an axe to grind with the army?
5. They keep mentioning sources. If the army has classified this information, the sources revealing it would violate the OSA. Wouldn’t the Army have to technically investigate, find, and arrest his sources? Or, is this information not a secret under the OSA?
6. Are there some patriotic people within the army that are using these people as fronts to get some sort of revenge on the PLA by pushing the government to act?

To me there are various angles and all this requires serious investigations by intelligence agencies and any violators charged with offenses and jailed. Don’t laze off. Be decisive when it comes to national security.
 

RoaringTigerHiddenDragon

Regular Member
Joined
Sep 5, 2020
Messages
857
Likes
4,504
Country flag

Kumata

Senior Member
Joined
Feb 27, 2019
Messages
4,991
Likes
18,848
Last edited:

sorcerer

Senior Member
Joined
Apr 13, 2013
Messages
24,534
Likes
86,974
Country flag
US Study: Chinese army faces problems in weapons innovation, relying on foreign acquisitions

According to a US study, the Chinese military is facing a lack of domestic innovation and corruption in its defence industry. The report by the Rand Corporation identified China as the “clear pacing threat” to the US in terms of investment in military capabilities but found that much of its progress was the result of intellectual property theft, foreign acquisitions and joint ventures.



china shupa thief when it comes to weapons and tech..marred in corruption within china itself
Who knows if the CPEC is another ponzi scheme by Xi to loot china and launder money to his bank account elsewhere.
 

Global Defence

New threads

Articles

Top