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Yes, that is a hint: India is using mouth to slam the council, this show what kind of power you are.
Remember gow the hell u got the seat at the top table kid
Amid the Sino-Soviet split and Vietnam War, American President Nixon entered into negotiations with CommunistChairman Mao, initially through a secret 1971 trip undertaken by Henry Kissinger to visit Zhou Enlai. On October 25, 1971, Albania's motion to recognize the People's Republic of China as the sole legal China was passed as General Assembly Resolution 2758. It was supported by most of the communist states (including the Soviet Union) and non-aligned countries(such as India), but also by some American allies such as the UK and France. Nixon thenpersonally visited China the next year, beginning the normalization of Sino-American relations.
 

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We are kind of power with most strategic assets which council members have.
So far, no one but India believes that you have that strategic assets.

What can you do in International Politics except mouth slamming? Do you want us to militarily challenge P5?

Well, how about re-starting nuclear test to prove that everyone is wrong?
Exploring every type of warhead you claiming that you have, one by one until the whole world coming to beg you to stop.
 

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So far, no one but India believes that you have that strategic assets.
Just because UNSC doesn't recognize India as a nuclear power, that doesn't mean India won't be.
Well, how about re-starting nuclear test to prove that everyone is wrong?
We have done already.
Not want sanctions again.
We will do it later, when sanctioned India could really push global economy down.
Exploring every type of warhead you claiming that you have,
Why we would tell? Enough,
Among all non NPT nuclear powers India, Pakistan, NoKo etc.,
only India is validated advanced reactors, FBRs or propulsion systems.
Even on conventional or other sorts of military support systems, none of them can come as near to P5 as India has came.
You know, India is a part of project ITER for fusion reactors while other non NPTs aren't.
There must be some very good reason.
one by one until the whole world coming to beg you to stop.
Will destroy ozone layer.
 

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Just because UNSC doesn't recognize India as a nuclear power, that doesn't mean India won't be.
That is where you need to convince everyone.

We have done already.
Everyone else thinks you failed. So, what you do? Screaming louder? or just blowing a full scale h-bomb to prove they are all wrong?

Not want sanctions again.
We will do it later, when sanctioned India could really push global economy down.
That means you are not ready for the seat yet! So, come back when you are not afraid of the sanctions.

Why we would tell? Enough,
Among all non NPT nuclear powers India, Pakistan, NoKo etc.,
only India is validated advanced reactors, FBRs or propulsion systems.
Firstly, different thing;
Secondly, too much foreign assistance in all of these tec.

You know, India is a part of project ITER for fusion reactors while other non NPTs aren't.
There must be some very good reason.
Only means you have some good R&D base or you are willing to contribute funds. Has nothing to do with UNSC seat.

Will destroy ozone layer.
Underground test won't.
 
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That is where you need to convince everyone.
Well, if a country like China can, won't be a difficult job for us.
In fact, besides China, almost everyone is convinced.
Everyone else thinks you failed. So, what you do? Screaming louder?
Just because you think so, it won't represent everyone.:biggrin2: Cuz, I'm able to find out opinion of everyone else but you. Or you want a technical explanation.
or just blowing a full scale h-bomb to prove they are all wrong?
We will fulfill your this wish too but later. GlobalTimes will again spew theur bull$hit and you'll be seen defending em.
That means you are not ready for the seat yet! So, come back when you are not afraid of the sanctions.
LOL, seat members don't get sanctions.
Firstly, different thing;
Still able to point out what's akin.
Secondly, too much foreign assistance in all of these tec.
How do you define "too much" and small assistance? I don't guess China started from scratch but got assistance from Soviets. India stole from Canada.
And taking foreign base initially isn't bad when you have just started from decades of backwardness.

India's most of research projects are independent.
Only means you have some good R&D base or you are willing to contribute funds. Has nothing to do with UNSC seat.
Wrong, funds become insignificant when you have US R&D budget.
India's budget is not very significant but number of scientists and engineers is high. We have most engineering graduates per year.
India contributes mainly with its coding and manpower. Indians Engineers and scientists still form a huge fraction of research organizations of even other countries.
Again, take example of CERN, India has nice experience with it's homegrown project too.
Underground test won't.
You'll again be able to detect its correct yield and call it failed. Wastage of time.:D
 

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You'll again be able to detect its correct yield and call it failed. Wastage of time.:D
Chinese are funny people. On one hand they claim that Indian nukes are inferior , unreliable etc on the other hand when India tests A4 A5 they shit their pants and bring out a 1998 UNSC resolution claiming that India has crossed minimum deterrence threshold:pound:
Which ironically they can't enforce:hehe:
 

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UNSC permanent membership: India offers to temporarily give up veto power
India and other members of the G4 have offered to initially forgo veto powers as permanent members in a reformed Security Council as a bargaining chip to get the reform process moving.
“The issue of veto is important, but we should not allow it to have a veto over the process of Council reform itself,” said India’s Permanent Representative Syed Akbaruddin, who was speaking on Tuesday on behalf of the G4 at the Inter-Governmental Negotiations (IGN) on Council reforms.
While the new permanent members would in principle have veto powers that the current five have, Akbaruddin said, “they shall not exercise the veto until a decision on the matter has been taken during a review”.
India, Brazil, Germany and Japan constitute the G4, which lobbies for Council reforms and they mutually support each other’s candidatures for permanent seats on an expanded body.
The G4 group rejected suggestions to create a category of longer-term elected members of the Council as a ploy to block adding new permanent members.
Expanding only the non-permanent categories would only worsen “the imbalance of influence” in the Council and “tilt the scales” in favour of an outdated set-up, he said.
Akbaruddin was responding to Italy’s Permanent Representative Sebastiano Cardi, who opposed expanding the permanent membership and instead suggested creating a new category of elected membership with longer terms than the current two years.
Cardi made the proposal on behalf of Uniting for Consensus ( UfC ) , a 13-member group that includes Pakistan. The group has been waging a decades-long battle against expanding permanent membership and blocking the reform process.
Approaching reforms from a narrow national perspective of ensuring that certain countries do not get permanent membership – for example, Pakistan’s opposition to India – through the reform process, the UfC suggested adding 11 seats to the Council, with nine of them having longer terms.
Deriding the UfC proposal as “old hat”, Akbaruddin said that the 1944 Dumbarton Oaks conference held in Washington to negotiate the shape of the UN had rejected suggestions for the longer-term Council membership.
Any proposal for Council reforms without an expansion of the number of the permanent seats does “grave injustice to Africa’s aspirations for equality”, he said.
The G4 also pointed out that the number and allocation of non - permanent seats have outlived their relevance since the UN was formed and the reform in 1965 when the number of non-permanent members was increased from six to 10.
Akbaruddin said that 53 members of the Asia-Pacific group of nations have only two elected seats on the council, while the 26-member Western Europe group also get two.




OK WHAT HE WANT TO SAY BY THIS "
“they shall not exercise the veto until a decision on the matter has been taken during a review”."

 

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India made a good offer.. UNSC should take a good look at this.. otherwise the relevance of UN in world order will go down in future..
 

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India made a good offer.. UNSC should take a good look at this.. otherwise the relevance of UN in world order will go down in future..
not that great of an offer. just by sitting there permanently would be not all that great if veto power is not there.
that would mean a separate category of permanent member who can sit there all the time but never use its veto ?
 

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not that great of an offer. just by sitting there permanently would be not all that great if veto power is not there.
that would mean a separate category of permanent member who can sit there all the time but never use its veto ?
The condition is temporary.. once there is a full fledged discussion on how to move forward in a certain time period then all the members should have the veto power.. so this is feasible.. There is no separate category here, just same as old permanent member with veto power but not able to use until the discussion about any matter is not achieved..
 

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not that great of an offer. just by sitting there permanently would be not all that great if veto power is not there.
that would mean a separate category of permanent member who can sit there all the time but never use its veto ?
india is just trying to open the gate first..when its opened then ander ghus kr jo krna h woh krenge
 

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