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Time matters too.
Can the requirement of VLS warrant time slippage of a decade into the program.

Original requirement of 24 diesel subs was to be met by 2018. RIP to that.
More that India governm't back then still have ambition about tech absorption from French and self-designed/built sub capacity build-up - which I deem very reasonable (look at Korea & Turkey). Things does NOT turn out as planned (worst part is we do NOT know whom to blame, but we do know who is suffering).

I will be astonished if new batch sub still go to France and expect good tech transfer. Simply experience, despite whose fault.
 

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Can some senior member clarify whether the new Scorpene class of subs are still sharing the 60 odd SUT torpeodes meant initially for the Type 209 submarines or has started getting the DRDO EHWT(sub launched variant of Varunastra)?
 

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3 more P75 subs : it is something serious ?
Can't say. Although it cannot be ruled out either. There was talks about 6 more submarines ( 3 p75 and 3 Scorpene) to be bulit at MDL. 3 customised Scorpenes for Bangladeshi Navy, partially funded by Indian line of credit ( 500+ 500 million USD).
Indian administration really wants BN to come out of Chinese influence atleast for their Submarine arm, thus clearing BoB of Chinese submarine influence.

Although, I don't know how this proposal has been received in Dhaka. Not just that they have purchased two RB ( Rust Bucket) Ming class 'training' submarines ( predates the Scorpene offer), they also have given out the design and construction of their submarine base to a Chinese firm.
At this point in time India might just be happy if Bangladesh buys any submarine except Chinese and Turkish ( do they make any?).
The above proposal might need a little effort from French side as well.
 

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Can't say. Although it cannot be ruled out either. There was talks about 6 more submarines ( 3 p75 and 3 Scorpene) to be bulit at MDL. 3 customised Scorpenes for Bangladeshi Navy, partially funded by Indian line of credit ( 500+ 500 million USD).
Indian administration really wants BN to come out of Chinese influence atleast for their Submarine arm, thus clearing BoB of Chinese submarine influence.

Although, I don't know how this proposal has been received in Dhaka. Not just that they have purchased two RB ( Rust Bucket) Ming class 'training' submarines ( predates the Scorpene offer), they also have given out the design and construction of their submarine base to a Chinese firm.
At this point in time India might just be happy if Bangladesh buys any submarine except Chinese and Turkish ( do they make any?).
The above proposal might need a little effort from French side as well.
P75 is the Scorpene.
 

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Can some senior member clarify whether the new Scorpene class of subs are still sharing the 60 odd SUT torpeodes meant initially for the Type 209 submarines or has started getting the DRDO EHWT(sub launched variant of Varunastra)?
No news about that. There was rumors about a F21 purchase from France, but nothing more officially.
 

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Lada is not a failure.due to radical new design it took longer time for design maturatity..
Radical design? even the russian navy prefers Kilo. Kilo was a nice design, but the recipe is lost.
 

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Radical design? even the russian navy prefers Kilo. Kilo was a nice design, but the recipe is lost.
Russia has offered kilo class subs based on amur with DRDO AIP and brahmos VLS integration. Also they've offered (6+3 subs).
France has offered customised SMX 3.0 ( probably for IN based on scorepene variant which costs bomb and brahmos VLS integration mentioned.
 

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No extra order for scorpio coming....next will be 6 lada class new gen sub...
for some reason India seems to like to build only a few of each type of vessel. Reports indicate that India needs and wants more subs. Indians already know how to build the Scorpene. The line is set up and running efficiently. Why not just make more Scorpenes (with the AIP)? USA develops a type and then build them in great numbers for production efficiency.

PS I am not French. I will not profit from any sub purchase India makes no matter the company/nation India deals with.
 

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