Is this which in under construction ?France to offer bigger Scorpenes for $ 5 Billion Indian Submarine Order
France will offer India a bigger version of its Scorpene conventional diesel-electric (SSK) submarine for a $5 billion (Rs 30,000 crore) contract for six submarines. This is the world's largest order for conventional submarines.
Stating this, Patrick Boissier, Chairman and CEO of French shipbuilder DCNS, confirmed that the design of the existing Scorpene submarine could be lengthened with the addition of more sections including Air Independent Propulsion (AIP).
Boissier was part of the trade delegation visiting New Delhi with French President Nicolas Sarkozy. India is already building six Scorpene submarines at the state-owned Mazagon Docks Ltd under a Rs 18,000-crore contract signed with France in 2005.
Last year, the Indian Navy sought global Requests for Information (RFIs) from global vendors for six Project 75I class submarines independent of the 2005 contract.
DCNS responded to the Navy RFI last September. Next year, the Navy is to issue its Request for Proposals (RFPs), which will define the size of the submarine and other critical parameters. Naval officials say a contract for the first P75I could be signed around 2012-13.
The Project 75I submarines are expected to be bigger than the 1800-ton Scorpene class and call for the fitment of AIP systems allowing greater underwater endurance and land-attack missiles.
Indian Navy officials say a commonality of components will mean the second line of six Scorpenes will be cheaper than any competitor, though it is unclear what the quantum of these savings will be. The first two submarines are to be built in the foreign shipyard that wins the contract, the next three at MDL and the last one at the Hindustan Shipyard Limited, recently acquired by the defence ministry.
The submarines are to be built simultaneously in India and abroad to ensure speedy induction into the fleet. This is because the Navy is faced with a fast shrinking submarine arm. It has not added a new submarine in a decade. From 18 submarines in 2000, the Navy is down to 14 and will start retiring the first of its 10 Russian-built Kilo class vessels from 2015 onwards. The Scorpene submarine programme has been delayed by four years. The first submarine is now expected to join the Navy only by 2015.
India's long-term submarine building programme, conceived in the mid-1990s, envisaged the building of 24 submarines over the next two decades.
I get the feeling this will not be the last order for Scorpene. As MKI is to IAF, Scorpene will be in continuous order for IN. Forget the next submarine tender, Scorpene has enough expandability to replace it. AIP to nuclear... she can do it all. Production line is already set up so it makes no sense to start another. Anyway, this is great news for DCN and Thales.India to buy 3 French Scorpene submarines
New Delhi, Mar 14 (PTI) The delivery of the first Scorpene submarine under Project-75 to the Indian Navy has been put off till second half of 2015, Parliament was informed today.
You mentioned that Mazgaon docks had trouble absorbing the technology for manufacturing the subs. So can it be assumed that all those issues have been ironed out? What sort of technology are the French willing to transfer to us?I get the feeling this will not be the last order for Scorpene. As MKI is to IAF, Scorpene will be in continuous order for IN. Forget the next submarine tender, Scorpene has enough expandability to replace it. AIP to nuclear... she can do it all. Production line is already set up so it makes no sense to start another. Anyway, this is great news for DCN and Thales.
Absorbing the technologies is another issue I am glad you bring up. Why would the docks want to go through those growing pains on a new class of submarine now they finally have Scorpene figured out? Equipment and training are already in place will save production and maintenance cost and more importantly... time.You mentioned that Mazgaon docks had trouble absorbing the technology for manufacturing the subs. So can it be assumed that all those issues have been ironed out? What sort of technology are the French willing to transfer to us?
NEW DELHI - Delivery of the first French Scorpene submarine being license-built in India has been delayed by three years, until the latter part of 2015, Indian Defence Minister A.K. Antony told the Indian Parliament in a written statement March 14.
According to the $3.9 billion contract signed in 2005 between India and France, construction of the first three submarines would begin in December 2006, December 2007 and August 2008. As per the contract signed with Mazagon Docks Ltd. (MDL), the first submarine is scheduled to be delivered in December 2012, and one each year until December 2017, Antony said.
Antony, however, told Parliament that the first Scorpene delivery will be delivered in 2015.
"As per the contract, the first submarine was scheduled to be delivered in December 2012 and thereafter, one each every year till December 2017. There have been delays due to initial teething problems, absorption of complex technology, augmentation of MDL infrastructure and procurement" of material. The first submarine is now scheduled to be delivered in the second half of 2015, Antony said.
India is already facing a shortfall in submarines. Currently, the Navy has 14 submarines and, by 2012, there will be nine, a senior Navy official said.
The news of the delay in the Scorpene delivery comes at a time when the Chinese Navy is building several nuclear submarines. China has about 30 modern submarines and few dozen older ones. The Scorpenes are being built under Indian Navy's Project 75, which was approved in 1997.
The Scorpene is a conventional submarine with diesel propulsion. It is 219 feet long and has a speed of more than 20 knots with a displacement of 1,700 tons. With 31 men onboard, it can remain at sea for about 50 days and can dive to a depth of more than 1,000 feet.
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