If India has to go for a two fronts war against China and Pakistan...

[Ray]

By saying that, i think you just admit if in a China-vs-India scenario, India alone can almost do nothing to counterattack China.

It is interesting to see Indians like you always count on other countries to finish your job. You always expect others to take your side when there is a potential Sino-Indo conflict, if you Indians hold on to that mentality, India will always be a hopeless country.




Another wet dream.
Do i need to remind you, during the last Sino-Indo conflict, nothing had happened in Tibet and Xinjiang. And to tell the truth, many Tibentans contributed a lot during that conflict by providing logistics assistance to PLA.

India alone can not only counter attack China over the Himalayas, but also more! Even in the sea scenario in the IOR, the IN has the capability to thwart Chinese designs since China does not have a blue water navy of consequence.

India still has much to do there (IOR), not that the Chinese have a blue water capability either. Therefore, China in the IOR remains a pipedream as of date and quite a few years more. But then, the IN will also be dynamically enhanced.

In the IOR, the USN will play, as it plays a major role. India does not require the US aid, but then the US will always expect IN to augment its resources, given the strategic understanding the US has with India. Apparently, much to China's discomfort, India and the US seem to have a common strategic goal.

A strategic understanding does not mean that India leans backward to thwart Chinese designs in India's backyard, be it land, sea or air.

In a potential Sino Indian conflict, there is no doubt that there will be adequate backer from the free world for India, whether India wants it or not!

India is not quite a hopeless country as your fear prompts you to call it! It is full of hope. Alexander Pope had written – hope spring eternal in the human breast. That is true, at least in the free world. Without hope what is there in life, more so since none is a soothsayer.

In the last Sino Indian conflict nothing happened in Tibet or Xingjian. True. But today the scenario is different. Without a conflict, China is having massive issues with the Tibetans and the Uighurs. They refuse to become Hans or have their resources looted. Not really a wet dream. If it were, then China would not have been so ham handed to quelling the rebellions!

 

[arya]

let's not forget that our army is only 50% equipped to fight a war as per it's own reports. we lack everything-modern howitzer's, carabines, helmets, bullet proof vests, helicopter's, night vision devices, grenades etc. we are not capable of taking on pakistan at this stage let alone china. we are worse off than we were in 1999 during kargil. during kargil itself the then govt. had to make several emergency purchases of ammunition stocks, spares etc just to conquer a few mountain peaks. just what has this UPA done other than blacklisting all possible companies in the last 5 years? we are just a lame duck now. should the pakis attempt another kargil type adveture we would pay a very heavy price today. Pak has more than 500 self propelled howitzer's while we dont have even a single one. they have already started inducting the 155mm/52caliber howitzers with more than 50km range while our artillery induction has been postponed at best for another 10 years.

they don't care for nation they just care

kaha gaye wo bhart maa ke laal ab bas dalal hi dalal nazar ate hai

 

[prateikf]

it will be tough for our soldiers to fight with obsolete and inadequate equipment. yes no doubt the Indian army is incredibly brave and will emerge victorious but why should we needlessly sacrifice the lives of our young soldiers? cant we provide them with adequate equipment at least? why is thousand's of crores of the budget meant for the army being returned by antony to the finance ministry every year? cant we spend the allotted money for the benefit of our soldiers? how long will we treat our soldiers as expendable and throw them into the sacrificial fire? why are we lagging behind pak and even bangladesh when it comes to weapons acquisitions?

 

[Yatharth Singh]

let's not forget that our army is only 50% equipped to fight a war as per it's own reports. we lack everything-modern howitzer's, carabines, helmets, bullet proof vests, helicopter's, night vision devices, grenades etc. we are not capable of taking on pakistan at this stage let alone china. we are worse off than we were in 1999 during kargil. during kargil itself the then govt. had to make several emergency purchases of ammunition stocks, spares etc just to conquer a few mountain peaks. just what has this UPA done other than blacklisting all possible companies in the last 5 years? we are just a lame duck now. should the pakis attempt another kargil type adveture we would pay a very heavy price today. Pak has more than 500 self propelled howitzer's while we dont have even a single one. they have already started inducting the 155mm/52caliber howitzers with more than 50km range while our artillery induction has been postponed at best for another 10 years.

You said that we dont have enough helmes, bullet proof vests or carabines for our soldiers ,i.e.,toequip our 1.4 million army. But tell me one thing that do you think that if a war occured then all of our 1.4 million soldiers will jump into that.

Dont worry about the basic equipments because we have it in proper quantity as required by the army. Yes we may not have those 1.4 million bulletproof vests of type 3-A but we have them in sufficient number to counter any insurgency that occurs on our borders. About the artillary, dont worry because not every war is like that of Kargil that the presence of artillary in very very important.

 

[arya]

You said that we dont have enough helmes, bullet proof vests or carabines for our soldiers ,i.e.,toequip our 1.4 million army. But tell me one thing that do you think that if a war occured then all of our 1.4 million soldiers will jump into that.

Dont worry about the basic equipments because we have it in proper quantity as required by the army. Yes we may not have those 1.4 million bulletproof vests of type 3-A but we have them in sufficient number to counter any insurgency that occurs on our borders. About the artillary, dont worry because not every war is like that of Kargil that the presence of artillary in very very important.

what will you do if the next war will be more level then kargil now we are talking about two fron and i hope you saw how was our preparation in time of kargil

how can we fight two front while we are lacking in every field

1 ) we have less numbers of fighter planes as compare to china and even pakistan has f16

2) we have shortage of artillary for our army if i m not wrong we took bofors gun as last one how will our army fight while pakistan is inducting new one

3) our navy is still lacking and see our AC from Russia is delaying and less number of destroyer as compare to china

4) now china has base in shiri lanka , Pakistan but we dont have any outside base from where we can make some counter attack on pakistan

5) MMRCA delay we took 6 year to select a plane

6 ) govt policy is not good for nation security


how can we fight two front while we are lacking in every where

 

[amoy]

a two-front war
+++++++++++++++
to go into a war there must have been a motive or an aim, for land for money for oil for women or simply for fulfillment of one's life?

or for diverting domestic attention towards an outside 'threat'? or for mobilizing all people/resources for a great 'goal' ?

tell me how the two-front war will be likely triggered?

 

[Yusuf]

China was close starting a two front war using pakistan in the 80s.

 

[arya]

a two-front war
+++++++++++++++
to go into a war there must have been a motive or an aim, for land for money for oil for women or simply for fulfillment of one's life?

or for diverting domestic attention towards an outside 'threat'? or for mobilizing all people/resources for a great 'goal' ?

tell me how the two-front war will be likely triggered?

you are asking how to war will be triggered well china is doing its game silently and we are still thinking all is well

we are not saying about to attack on other nation but how to save if china and Pakistan attack on India same time how we can deal

if you go to S.L NEPAL,PAKISTAN then you can how china is playing its game smartly

 

[vikramrana_1812]

China deploys new CCS-5 missiles on border with India

WASHINGTON: China has moved new advanced longer range CSS-5 missiles close to the borders with India and developed contingency plans to shift airborne forces at short notice to the region, according to Pentagon.

Despite increased political and economic relationship between India and China, the Pentagon in a report to the US Congress said, tensions remain along the Sino-India borders with rising instances of border violation and aggressive border patrolling by Chinese soldiers.

However, a senior Defense Departmentofficial told reporters that the US has not observed any anomalous increase in military capabilities along the Sino-India border.

Noting that China continues to maintain its position on what its territorial claim is, the official said, the two capitals - Beijing and New Delhi - have been able to manage this dispute, in a way, using confidence-building measures and diplomatic mechanisms to be able to maintain relative stability in that border area.

"But it's something that China continues to watch; but I wouldn't say that there's anything in this report that demonstrates a spike or an anomalous increase in military capabilities along the border.

"It's something that China's paying very careful attention to. It's obviously something that India is paying careful attention to as well," the Senior Defense Department official said.

In its annual report, the US Defence department said, to improve regional deterrence, the PLA has replaced older liquid-fueled, nuclear capable CCS-3 intermediate range missiles with more advanced and survivable fueled CSS-5 MRBMs.

"China is currently engaged in massive road and rail infrastructure development along the Sino-India border primarily to facilitate economic development in western China: improved roads also support PLA operations," the Pentagon said.

The report presented to the Congress said despite increased political and economic relations over the years between China and India, tensions remain along their shared 4,057 km border, most notably over Arunachal Pradesh, which China asserts as part of Tibet and therefore of China, and over the Aksai Chin region at the western end of the Tibetan Plateau.

"Both countries, in 2009, stepped up efforts to assert their claims. China tried to block a USD 2.9 billion loan to India from the Asian Development Bank, claiming part of the loan would have been used for water projects in Arunachal Pradesh. This represented the first time China sought to influence this dispute through a multilateral institution," the Pentagon said.


Read more: China deploys new CCS-5 missiles on border with India - India - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...h-India/articleshow/6324105.cms#ixzz0wr4kVkay

 

[arya]

China deploys new CCS-5 missiles on border with India

WASHINGTON: China has moved new advanced longer range CSS-5 missiles close to the borders with India and developed contingency plans to shift airborne forces at short notice to the region, according to Pentagon.

Despite increased political and economic relationship between India and China, the Pentagon in a report to the US Congress said, tensions remain along the Sino-India borders with rising instances of border violation and aggressive border patrolling by Chinese soldiers.

However, a senior Defense Departmentofficial told reporters that the US has not observed any anomalous increase in military capabilities along the Sino-India border.

Noting that China continues to maintain its position on what its territorial claim is, the official said, the two capitals - Beijing and New Delhi - have been able to manage this dispute, in a way, using confidence-building measures and diplomatic mechanisms to be able to maintain relative stability in that border area.

"But it's something that China continues to watch; but I wouldn't say that there's anything in this report that demonstrates a spike or an anomalous increase in military capabilities along the border.

"It's something that China's paying very careful attention to. It's obviously something that India is paying careful attention to as well," the Senior Defense Department official said.

In its annual report, the US Defence department said, to improve regional deterrence, the PLA has replaced older liquid-fueled, nuclear capable CCS-3 intermediate range missiles with more advanced and survivable fueled CSS-5 MRBMs.

"China is currently engaged in massive road and rail infrastructure development along the Sino-India border primarily to facilitate economic development in western China: improved roads also support PLA operations," the Pentagon said.

The report presented to the Congress said despite increased political and economic relations over the years between China and India, tensions remain along their shared 4,057 km border, most notably over Arunachal Pradesh, which China asserts as part of Tibet and therefore of China, and over the Aksai Chin region at the western end of the Tibetan Plateau.

"Both countries, in 2009, stepped up efforts to assert their claims. China tried to block a USD 2.9 billion loan to India from the Asian Development Bank, claiming part of the loan would have been used for water projects in Arunachal Pradesh. This represented the first time China sought to influence this dispute through a multilateral institution," the Pentagon said.


Read more: China deploys new CCS-5 missiles on border with India - India - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...h-India/articleshow/6324105.cms#ixzz0wr4kVkay

as i said they are playing there card and we are sleeping

on ground level we are nothing as compare to them

if they attack on India frankly we are not in condition to give them fight forget two front while we cant deal one china

 

[amoy]

if they attack on India frankly we are not in condition to give them fight forget two front while we cant deal one china

If China initiates attacks China would face multi-front fights instead of 2-front... back to senses pls though this subject is hypothetical.

 

[arya]

If China initiates attacks China would face multi-front fights instead of 2-front... back to senses pls though this subject is hypothetical.

well everything is hypothetical unless they take in front of eyes

i hope you undersytand my point

what is gound condition you know it very well but its time when we have to do the maximum as we can do for our nation

can say 100% with gaurantity that china will face multifront but i can say 100% no one will come in our support against china not even Russia isreal USA UK i mean no one unless we stand for our nation

 

[vikramrana_1812]

If China initiates attacks China would face multi-front fights instead of 2-front... back to senses pls though this subject is hypothetical.

Chinese are not affraid of multi front war........they are the only people/nation which showing USA that they are not supreme...they are not afraid of retaliating......even Russia has now soften their stand againd USA...Russians dont look confident enough......everyone knows that the next 10 -15 years belongs to 1. USA, 2. China as the 2 regional powers....

We are talking about India going on 2 front war.......it is a joke....

China even doesnt take India that serious for a war.....they know that We cant attack them..they know that if even they attack us..the first thing that we will do is to complain the whole world about it and wait for the sympathy..........

As an Indian I want India to stand up to each and every development that China is doing in their side eg
1. China is builing rail/road network on their side of border....WHY ARE WE NOT DOING IT?
2. They have moved their missile closer to India...WHY WE ARE NOT DOING IT?
3. just making an Airbase with 10-15 fighters is not enough.....They have 10 times more airbases to couter our one airbase...therefore IT IS NOT ENOUGH.....
4. MMRCA should not be delayed further....IT SHOWS HOW WEAK OUR DECISION MAKERS ARE>>>>
5. To counter RAGE, AGGRESSION we should also show same RAGE, URGENCY and AGGRESSIOn...if we behave like a pegion who shuts its eyes after seeing a CT then we will be a dead meat like Stupid pegion...
6. It is high time.....
7. We have slightly better Avionics/Fighters than them ...it is good..but it is not enough...our 100 MKI's wont be able to match their 400MK's....its a suicide mission.....its a daunting task..IT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD NOT EXPECT FROM OUT BRAVE PILOTS...
8. Out military is relatively smaller but atleast we should make more number of check posts in our border with CHINA to match them....u people will find it very strange but it is true THAT OUR SOLDIERS SIT 50 - 100 KMS BEHING THE ACTUAL LAC with CHINA...whereas their check points are on the borders itself...I HAVE SEEN THIS WITH MY OWN EYES....
9. How can we defend our borders if our soldiers are not in the boders....IT IS A SHAME....

I am proud to be Indian and want to discuss more on the topic of INDIA fighting 2 wars at a time......but the reality is that IT WILL EVER HAPPEN...And INDIA FIGHTING 2 nations is a JOKE....

 

[vishal_lionheart]

Indian Soldiers are sitting inside 50 / 100 km inside LAC, what a silly thing? Then who is guarding actual line of control, CHINESE?
Shame on Government of India, which hiding such Important things and reports from public, or Indian Politician willingly surrender to Chinese counterparts, and sell their MOTHER. This politician's are worst than PIMPS.
Thanks Bro, you have open our eyes

 

[arya]

Chinese are not affraid of multi front war........they are the only people/nation which showing USA that they are not supreme...they are not afraid of retaliating......even Russia has now soften their stand againd USA...Russians dont look confident enough......everyone knows that the next 10 -15 years belongs to 1. USA, 2. China as the 2 regional powers....

We are talking about India going on 2 front war.......it is a joke....

China even doesnt take India that serious for a war.....they know that We cant attack them..they know that if even they attack us..the first thing that we will do is to complain the whole world about it and wait for the sympathy..........

As an Indian I want India to stand up to each and every development that China is doing in their side eg
1. China is builing rail/road network on their side of border....WHY ARE WE NOT DOING IT?
2. They have moved their missile closer to India...WHY WE ARE NOT DOING IT?
3. just making an Airbase with 10-15 fighters is not enough.....They have 10 times more airbases to couter our one airbase...therefore IT IS NOT ENOUGH.....
4. MMRCA should not be delayed further....IT SHOWS HOW WEAK OUR DECISION MAKERS ARE>>>>
5. To counter RAGE, AGGRESSION we should also show same RAGE, URGENCY and AGGRESSIOn...if we behave like a pegion who shuts its eyes after seeing a CT then we will be a dead meat like Stupid pegion...
6. It is high time.....
7. We have slightly better Avionics/Fighters than them ...it is good..but it is not enough...our 100 MKI's wont be able to match their 400MK's....its a suicide mission.....its a daunting task..IT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD NOT EXPECT FROM OUT BRAVE PILOTS...
8. Out military is relatively smaller but atleast we should make more number of check posts in our border with CHINA to match them....u people will find it very strange but it is true THAT OUR SOLDIERS SIT 50 - 100 KMS BEHING THE ACTUAL LAC with CHINA...whereas their check points are on the borders itself...I HAVE SEEN THIS WITH MY OWN EYES....
9. How can we defend our borders if our soldiers are not in the boders....IT IS A SHAME....

I am proud to be Indian and want to discuss more on the topic of INDIA fighting 2 wars at a time......but the reality is that IT WILL EVER HAPPEN...And INDIA FIGHTING 2 nations is a JOKE....

joke well some time joke turn in reality the worst reality of life well yes our army is doing its job they are planing how to face two front but the fact is govt don't want to wake up and not even govt we India don't want to see the reality

who care the nation we care good salary car big home two or three girl Friend mobile phone laptop sorry now Indian don't has time for nation

 

[vikramrana_1812]

Indian Soldiers are sitting inside 50 / 100 km inside LAC, what a silly thing? Then who is guarding actual line of control, CHINESE?
Shame on Government of India, which hiding such Important things and reports from public, or Indian Politician willingly surrender to Chinese counterparts, and sell their MOTHER. This politician's are worst than PIMPS.
Thanks Bro, you have open our eyes

yes my friend it is TRUE...indian posts along LAC are minimum 50 kms inside LAC where as Chinese posts are on LAC...
There are very stupid reasons for it...I am telling you all because I Belong to family of BSF personals and I have seen these facts with my own eyes...
1. There is no road or even a path to reach LAC on foot....OUR GOVT IS NOT SERIOUS OF MAKING A SINGLE ROAD and then is complaining that Chinese are making roads and getting close to us... The fact is that they are actually sitting inside our LAC and even our Army knows this...
2. The infrastructure to defend LAC with China is not developed..If our soldiers go on a patrol and are stuck close to LAC due to bad whether or other natural calamities then ....the army bases dont have night flying Helicoptors to get them back and the soldiers therefore are not allowed to patrol as there is no backup for them...
3. The arms and Night vision facilities are insufficient......or not in working condition....
4. Chinese on the other hand uses state of the art guarding equipments that are stealthy and very advance...
5. We say that our Su30Mki's can strike deep in China...but the fact is that If INDIA even think about this..THE CHINESE Will Blow OUR MKI's standing on the bases itself...ie before even flying.....So u can imagine What we are up againt...and how strong is our enemy...
6. india maintains the second strike capability...but whereas China maintains the aggressor cabability of Strike and complete anhiliation on enemy at first place....My question is WHAT IS THE USE OF SECOND STRIKE CAPABILITY IF YOU GET OWNED/DESTROYED AT THE FIRST PLACE?
7. To counter Pakistan we need MKI's, Mig 29's...but to counter CHINA we dont need these...what we need is the BEST DEFENCE SHIELD THAT WE CAN GET QUICKLY, we need thousands of MISSILES to strike deep in CHINA (No Mki will do this)....We need Missile bases (like china) on the borders (BUT THIS IS A DREAM BECAUSE AT THIS MOMENT EVEN OUR SOLDIERS ARE NOT CLOSE TO LAC SO MAY BE I AM DAY DREAMING >>>SORRY FOR THE FALSE DREAM GUYS)
8. To contain China we need the same strategy what CHINA uses againt USA..and THAT IS EYE FOR AN EYE, HEAD FOR A HEAD....I mean ....to fight a DRAGON we need to behave like a TIGER.

 

[vikramrana_1812]

Lac

India china border dispute

 

[vikramrana_1812]

India vs China on Military Strength - Conventional and Nuclear

As two rising Asian powers with high GDP growths and increasing geo-political influence, India and China have been arch rivals in their race to superpowerdom. The race for regional dominance between these two countries has also spawned a race for militarisation, with India sparing no efforts to match China's military might. A comparative analysis is therefore overdue, to see how India and China fare against each other in their military strengths.


China's military capability displayed in 'PEACE MISSION 2005' joint exercise with Russia (Click on video to play)

According to United States DoD (Department of Defense) reports for 2006, China's military expenditure is estimated to be 80 billion US dollars. However, the official Chinese CPC government quote is a $30 billion military expenditure (which a lot of analysts believe is underquoted). The actual Chinese military capabilities and budget are shrouded in deep secrecy to prevent foreign countries having an idea of its military might"¦and perhaps to create the strategic advantage of uncertainity. If we were to go by the conservative official Chinese figure of $30 billion, it would put China second only to USA in global military spending. On the other side, India's official military expenditure for 2006 is quoted at $22 billion by the Ministry of Finance (India) Budget (2006-2007). India however, does not keep a level of secrecy as cloaked as China does, as its democratic government system requires public accountability. By its official 2006 military budget figures, India stands at 9th position in global military spending.



India's supersonic PJ-10 BrahMos developed jointly by Russia and is the fastest cruise missile with a top speed of Mach 2.8 (~ three times faster than US' Tomahawk)

In 2006 India's active military personell numbered over 1,325,000 while China was significantly higher at 2,255,000. In air defence, China's PLA (People's Liberation Army) Air Force has 9,218 aircrafts of which about 2300 are combat aircrafts, operating from its 489+ air bases. The Indian Air Force has 3382 aircrafts which includes 1335 combat aircrafts operating from 334+ bases and its sole aircraft carrier INS Viraat. The air superiority in China's PLAAF is maintained by its fleet of Russian Su-30 MK and indigenously built J-10 fighters. Indian Air Force, on the other hand has French built Dassault Mirage 2000s and Russian Su-30 MKI as the best aircrafts in its combat fleet (no indigenous fighters or aircrafts have been deployed by India so far). Indian Navy is the world's eighth largest navy with a with a fleet of 145 vessels consisting of missile-capable warships, advanced submarines, the latest naval aircrafts and an aircraft carrier in its inventory. It is experienced both in combat and rescue operations during wartime and peace as seen from its wars with Pakistan in 1971, the December 2004 Tsunami, etc. In comparison, China's PLA Navy with its fleet of 284 vessels is quantitatively larger but lacking in actual war experience, which could undermine its strategic capability. As of 2007, China has no aircraft carriers in its naval fleet but is slated to build and induct an aircraft carrier by 2010.



In strategic nuclear defence and delivery systems, China's PLA is miles ahead of India's nuclear forces. The PLA's stockpile is estimated to have 200-400 active nuclear warheads. In comparison, India's strategic nuclear force is estimated to have stockpiled about 50-70 nuclear warheads. The most powerful warhead tested by India had an yield of 0.05 megatons which is quite small compared to China's highest yield of 4 megatons. India's nuclear delivery system consists of bombers, supersonic cruise missiles and medium range ballistic missiles. Agni 2, India's longest range deployed ballistic missile is capable of a range of 2500 km, carrying a single nuclear warhead of ~1000 kg. In stark contrast, China's nuclear delivery system is far more capable with multiple warhead (MIRV) ICBMs like DF-5A [12000+ km] and DF-4 [7500+ km]. It also fields submarine launched SLBMs like JL-2 [8500+ km] and strategic fighter bombers like Su-27 Flanker in its nuclear delivery arsenal.



Economic theory teaches us that incentives drive decision making by a nation or an individual. In case of India, a democracy with no serious military adversary, its militarisation drive is often overshadowed by internal militancy issues and political struggles. In case of a communist China, it has a powerful military adversary in United States; the conflicts over Taiwan give China a strong incentive to beef up its military defence to counter the US military might. The situation is much similar to that of USSR vs USA Cold War, albeit on a much smaller scale. The end result is China walking far ahead of India in military might with overpowering superiority if both conventional and nuclear forces are taken into account.

 

[neo29]

On both sides of the indo china border there are Radars and SAM's installed. So it wont be like those days of blitzkrieg that either side will destroy air bases and army installation using air power.

Regards to airpower PLAAF has other borders to protect too especially on the eastern seaboard. Taiwan has 350 4th gen fighters so thats more than enough to scare PRC. So they will have limited fighters towards India border which we can easily match up to.

The geography of the border is such that neither side will roll in tanks at very early stage of war coz of vulnerability.

Dispute in South China Sea and the long turn up to Malaca straits makes their Navy unable to gain upper hand in IOR.

The only thing that both sides can fight with is ground troops, artillery strikes and LGB from fighters. And India may well able to manage that.

 

[amoy]

Chinese are not affraid of multi front war........they are the only people/nation which showing USA that they are not supreme...they are not afraid of retaliating......even Russia has now soften their stand againd USA...Russians dont look confident enough......everyone knows that the next 10 -15 years belongs to 1. USA, 2. China as the 2 regional powers....

u and many Inidans, IMO, over-estimate China's might and ambitions. just review what USSR was like. It had military bases and allies all over the world, from Viet Nam to Cuba, to Africa, at its heyday. What does China have, except that so-called string of pearls (non-existent or deliberately overhyped by Indian media) in IOR?? So China is simply bound to be a regional power.

u say "China knows India can't attack India". But why don't u put it the other way - "China can't attack India"?? Multi- front fights mean China has to stand confrontations with the US, and Japan, SKorea... and cut-off of China's sea routes for oil/gas through Malacca and then Indian Ocean then to Persian Gulf. Don't imagine China is ready or capable of handling all this.

Besides u don't understand Chinese mindset. We're mostly the single son of our families. We cherish our lives (if not more than u do). We indulge in material desires (more than Indians do).

u Indians tend to magnify the 'threat'. probably it's good to put your compatriots on the alert all the time, or make your servicemen ready for defending Vaterland at any moment, or grow your economy and defence industry to weather any eventualities, or divert your people's attention from domestic itches toward foreign 'menace'. but sometimes it's being overdone.

Are the border disputes so bothering both peoples? If they can be resolved in our generation, great. That means we can move ahead without all those 'burdens'. If not, we certainly can still address other prioirties on agenda for mutual good (in other words shelf the 'dfferences'). In Asia Russia holds S. Suril Islands of Japan. Korea quarrels with Japan over Take Island. China and Japan are bitter over Diaoyu Island. So do these get deteriorated to the extent of xx-front wars?