IDF is a Pakistani Forum that Attacked DFI !

[Galaxy]

Well Galaxy whose you fooling here mate ??You are rather ignoring a problem as Myself opened my eyes then why don't you mate ??I was just 5posts far to become a senior member in PDF ,They banned me for nothing but trolling in PDf till 31Aug because A guy in PDF called A1kaid or some ****head was propagandizing against India so i gave a fitting reply and pokies real image infront of him,where these guys stand in world arena.

I agree dude, PDF is completely Anti-Indian. They promote anything which is Anti-Indian. I myself being Senior member left PDF completely (different ID). Now, I neither have interest nor needed. Indeed, I am the only one who said on IDF that PDF is completely Anti-Indian. Every Indian should leave PDF. But The problem is many Indians are still active. (I just check few ID who are online here and they are also active on PDF). Indians should stop posting on PDF.

IDF is an Indian, I still feel with my personal experience. I am the one of the most active member on IDF. But I can't give guarantee as i am waiting few reply. Let Tairiq replies which will happen in 1-2 days. Then i can add more about credibility.

 

[Daredevil]

Oh by the way, we are not hiding our names or addresses to whom our domains are registered. You will find that they are registered to people in India and has nothing to hide.

 

[Yusuf]

PDF is not for serious members. Serious members are called trolls because they make them smell coffee. however Indians who are there to troll and indulge in flame are most welcome as it has a chain reaction and increases post count.

I went there about a year and a half or two back that too after a Pak troll here on DFI praised Pk no end. The topic was about Pak getting nuke deal like India. I posted reasons why they didn't need nuclear power and how they could survive on conventional resources they had. I was branded as a troll!!

Anyways in all, I was there for two days before I had enough of having a look into that forum.

 

[Galaxy]

Credible rumors have it that Tariq is a Pakistani?? If he owns the IDF domain dosen't it mean it is a Pakistani forum??
Why all of the sudden an interest in DFI especially after being dormant for so long and coincidentally after our severe DDOS attack??

To be very frank, I don't know who is Tariq. He said he is Indian and always post Pro-Indian post. he will be replying soon about nationality then only i can be sure. 90% Mods/Admins/Senior/Elite/Think Tank are Indians.

 

[sayareakd]

look at this FB page Tariq Khan | Facebook

this is Fb page of your IDF administrator, he has no friends, no info, he is fake. If you want more proof i can help you.

 

[Yusuf]

Oh by the way, we are not hiding our names or addresses to whom our domains are registered. You will find that they are registered to people in India and has nothing to hide.

And we have each others contact details and my contact details are available with a few other members on the forum, I have had breakfast with some members, a wonderful lunch with the Brigadier who is also a mod on this forum.

 

[Illusive]

The funny thing is they are dependent on Indians, to earn money. These people really need a job.

 

[Pandora]

look at this FB page Tariq Khan | Facebook

this is Fb page of your IDF administrator, he has no friends, no info, he is fake. If you want more proof i can help you.

See thats what am talking that IDF is just a facemask of PDF to suckup Indian $$ (AV,NRJ,Yosuf thanks to you guys)

 

[Yusuf]

To be very frank, I don't know who is Tariq. He said he is Indian and always post Pro-Indian post. he will be replying soon about nationality then only i can be sure. 90% Mods/Admins/Senior/Elite/Think Tank are Indians.

You don't know who Tariq is but still keep saying he is Indian. Do you know that there are only about 20 members, all Multi IDs posting in Indian flags to increase post count?

Yeah keep waiting for his reply about his nationality. If he says he is Indian will you believe him?

If he does call himself Indian, ask for his contact details. If he calls himself an NRI get details about his ancestors in India, address etc.

 

[plugwater]

Galaxy, No offence to you mate but dont you think its a bit lame to ask Pakistanis to host an Indian defence forum, Consider if a defence personal PM or share something with a member dont you think it can be viewed by the owner(who is a pakistani) of WDN ?

 

[Galaxy]

Galaxy, No offence to you mate but dont you think its a bit lame to ask Pakistanis to host an Indian defence forum, Consider if a defence personal PM or share something with a member dont you think it can be viewed by the owner(who is a pakistani) of WDN ?

I agree completely. I am passionate in Defence and i have concern too. Even I said the same yesterday that there should not be any relation with Pakistan. I was the only one who said and asked directly. Few replies came and few still awaited. I have my own limitation. Hope you can understand.

As i said, I am neither defending nor opposing. Simply because i don't know everything. Yes, I am one of the most active member of IDF. Few things will be cleared soon. Jagjitnatt is 2nd Admin and an Indian living in Jalandhar and he is ready to give all his contact details if anyone wants.

But even many Indians including active member of DFI are active on PDF. what can be done ?

 

[Yusuf]

I agree completely. I am passionate in Defence and i have concern too. Even I said the same yesterday that there should not be any relation with Pakistan. I was the only one who said and asked directly. Few replies came and few still awaited. I have my own limitation. Hope you can understand.

As i said, I am neither defending nor opposing. Simply because i don't know everything. Yes, I am one of the most active member of IDF. Few things will be cleared soon. Jagjitnatt is 2nd Admin and an Indian living in Jalandhar and he is ready to give all his contact details.

But even many Indians including active member of DFI are active on PDF. what can be done ?

Jaggi will sell himself to the highest bidder.
What can we do about those on DFI who post on PDF? Well what have we been doing the last week? Appealing to the conscience of Indians to stop feeding those scums.

If our effort makes at least 10 people stay off PDF, I think I would consider it a good response.

 

[plugwater]

I agree completely. I am passionate in Defence and i have concern too. Even I said the same yesterday that there should not be any relation with Pakistan. I was the only one who said and asked directly. Few replies came and few still awaited. I have my own limitation. Hope you can understand.

As i said, I am neither defending nor opposing. Simply because i don't know everything. Yes, I am one of the most active member of IDF. Few things will be cleared soon. Jagjitnatt is 2nd Admin and an Indian living in Jalandhar and he is ready to give all his contact details if anyone wants.

But even many Indians including active member of DFI are active on PDF. what can be done ?

I think he ll come up with a story that he is an Indian. Again its up to you whether to believe it or not but it has already been revealed that he is a fake in BR.

Nothing can be done.

 

[Yusuf]

Ok, looks like people want to start afresh at fake with Indian account. And guess who is jumping around? Jaggi!! I guess it's time to release the next lot of mails that we have and this time a bit from jaggi.

Those over there ready to shell out money, be careful!!

Jaggi should run a porn site as at the end of the day, he wants to make money.

DFI is a not for profit site solely run by people passionate about defense and geo politics. The ad revenue are not enough to run the forum and it's owner pays from his pocket. The recent outage has cost a lot of money. Someone else would have backed off. A tribute to the passion of the owner for having stay put in the face of massive attacks and shelling out a lot $$ to get the site back.

A BIG THANK YOU!!

 

[JanjaWeed]

almost all IDF members are from PDF including me. I'm an elite member through subscription (so i know a thing or two more than most about the links between the two) on both IDF & PDF...though i'm not active on PDF anymore. To be honest.. pakistani forums will always have more members than indian forums due to the mere fact that indians would go & counter anti-india propaganda coming out of those machines. i know.. it generates more money to those forums..but is it only about the money? Indian members on those forums are doing a good job in countering those propaganda against india as well!!

 

[plugwater]

WTF!! You paid to become an elite member ? I thought it is based on number of posts or quality of posts, its a fvcking scam if you ask me!!

Indians posting in Pdf are just teenagers, sane members will get banned at some point.

 

[Yusuf]

almost all IDF members are from PDF including me. I'm an elite member through subscription (so i know a thing or two more than most about the links between the two) on both IDF & PDF...though i'm not active on PDF anymore. To be honest.. pakistani forums will always have more members than indian forums due to the mere fact that indians would go & counter anti-india propaganda coming out of those machines. i know.. it generates more money to those forums..but is it only about the money? Indian members on those forums are doing a good job in countering those propaganda against india as well!!

The propaganda get more publicity when you guys go there. What do we have to defend there? They want publicity and Indians provide that.

I seriously recommend you not paying a single cent to those scums. Even if they think about any diversionary new forum. You cab make DFI your home. Tariq and his ilk have relentlessly attacked us with the intention of taking us out so that they can continue their propaganda work. You better beware of these scums.

Indians dont have anything to defend on Pak forums. We can discuss on genuine forums how to make our nation better. Have a look at the Anna thread and the thoughts there. It will give you an idea.

 

[Yusuf]

Take a look at the screen shots. People like fools have contributed big sums to Pakis.

Jaggi has started making preparation for his own forum now and does not want to spend a dime on it and wants people to pay for it and people like fools want to pay to get some crappy ranks?

Compare this with what the owner of DFI has done over the years since its inception. No "subscription", no selling of "ranks", and yes we need a lot of money as revenue from ads are not enough but so far the owner has paid from his pocket esp since we keep facing attacks and a lot of money goes into securing the forum.

I have the owners name address and phone number. We talk quite often and he is a genuine person.

 

[Yusuf]

Ok below is one of the mails jagjit had written to one of our people here.

Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 16[image: Click here to enlarge]28 +0530
Subject: BMF
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]

Ok, listen. BMF is under XXx. I have it confirmed. I was a bit doubtful
about you. We had a user named AV. So I thought you're him.
Now keep this thing a secret. Don't tell anyone.

It was me who deleted the thread, because I didn't want admin to find out
what we were talking about. I have the thread removed physically from the
database. admin logged in soon after. So admin knows nothing what we were
thinking. BMF=PDF. And its not good. But will have to live with it.

Their admin Jagjit knew all along what the truth was. He kept playing along coz he was "given" admin job.

His end desire is to have his own forum and double cross the Pakistani Tariq aka Ahsan. He has already started his thing as I have shown with the previous screen shots. Jaggi just wants to make money through forums, nothing else.

 

[Virendra]

almost all IDF members are from PDF including me. I'm an elite member through subscription (so i know a thing or two more than most about the links between the two) on both IDF & PDF...though i'm not active on PDF anymore. To be honest.. pakistani forums will always have more members than indian forums due to the mere fact that indians would go & counter anti-india propaganda coming out of those machines. i know.. it generates more money to those forums..but is it only about the money? Indian members on those forums are doing a good job in countering those propaganda against india as well!!

It would never be about money and we wouldn't care, if and only if there is a guarantee that such money will not be used against us and for attacking our forums. Lets not be idealistic, is there any such reliance remotely imaginable for an Indian?

What is the ungodly and obvious reason that a Pakistani handler would erect an Indian defence forum on the internet?
Propaganda right? Would you see the propaganda survive at all if Indians do not throng at such sites (PDF/IDF) to give them so many eyeballs around the globe and at google searches. Is a non debative, cold, boring, seldom visited, sans variety forum going to make any real difference in the bigger picture? For how long will a one sided story maintain its facade in the wider netizen diaspora (or non netizens even)?
If they run a propaganda at their platforms, how about we counter it at our platform? After all we've all agreed that our activities at their platform have helped their propaganda in long term ultimately (barring of course the fanboyish satisfaction of thrashing them).
Tomorrow they will say they found chicken soup on Saturn, are you going to waste your time and energy refuting that?
Think upon it and let me ask the question again. How are posters like you helping us in countering their propaganda?

Regards,
Virendra