IAF Mi-17V5 Crashed Near Coonoor (Tamil Nadu)-CDS Onboard

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BC.... Put 2+2 together. These are cyberattacks.
Cyber attacks on helicopters?
Care to elaborate this theory which imho makes no sense. It's a sad day but nation moves our system has built in contingency plans.
With regards to Mi 17 it is a damn good helicopter.
 

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Can some tell me what is chandigarh lobby??
@mokoman @Automatic Kalashnikov @another_armchair
If I go into the details, it would get too regional and political at the same time.

They are a bunch of people who lobby for arms and align themselves with the grand old party of India. Majority of them belong to a single state, the minority to its smaller neighbor. A lot of activism etc can be traced to the same group.

They will brand you as 'bhakt' if you question them. Before 2014, they would simply ignore you... but they have a lot of spare time these days to retort with adjectives ... Bhakt.. Modi ka kutta.. etc.
 

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BC.... Put 2+2 together. These are cyberattacks.
1) Increase in insurgencies in border states.
2) CDS dies travelling in a Russian Helicopter.
3) Attacks on AFSPA.
4) Intrusions from Myanmar to Indian border states.
5) Taliban trained Terrorists infiltrating to Kashmir.
6) Use of Civil Society.

We are in an attack already.
 

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Cyber attacks on helicopters?
Care to elaborate this theory which imho makes no sense. It's a sad day but nation moves our system has built in contingency plans.
With regards to Mi 17 it is a damn good helicopter.
You can load malware on a helicopter via thumb drive before take off.

 

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1) Increase in insurgencies in border states.
2) CDS dies travelling in a Russian Helicopter
3) Attacks on AFSPA.
4) Intrusions from Myanmar to Indian border states.
5) Terrorists Infiltrating to Kashmir.
6) Use of Civil Society.

We are in attack already.
When did they ever stop? We have at best seen a pause in between.. my entire childhood was spent reading news of riots, terrorism etc...
Yeah.. we have lived through it all and we try to make peace with each one of those who wants us finished.
 

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Who was the attacker?

1. USA
2. Israel
3. China
4. Russia (probably wants to kill its aerospace industry.. yeah)
USA or China are the main culprits. China makes more sense since their western theater commanders also died. The USA could also be involved given their history of killing Indian ISRO and nuclear scientists. They also did not like Russian procurements.
 

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USA or China are the main culprits. China makes more sense since their western theater commanders also died. The USA could also be involved given their history of killing Indian ISRO and nuclear scientists.
... and the chopper crashed when it was probably 5 minutes from its landing spot.

Some hack that must say.

China - Our theater commanders died of cause X or Y so we must hack their helicopter and seek revenge. Sure why not.
 

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USA or China are the main culprits. China makes more sense since their western theater commanders also died. The USA could also be involved given their history of killing Indian ISRO and nuclear scientists. They also did not like Russian procurements.
Well CIA disclosed that they had a heart attack gun back in the 70s. So for me, any mysterious death of important person means a involvement of foreign powers and the chief suspect is CIA. But I don't believe that's the case in this. But death of Isro scientists is definitely fishy and points to foreign involvement.
 

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When did they ever stop? We have at best seen a pause in between.. my entire childhood was spent reading news of riots, terrorism etc...
Yeah.. we have lived through it all and we try to make peace with each one of those who wants us finished.
This is how nations were since long. War had and has its own dynamics. Till we grow strong from the inside, its better to make peace.
For how long...
May be till we are in the first three when it comes to economy.

well!!
Hopefully, we can call the shots very soon...and we will
 
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... and the chopper crashed when it was probably 5 minutes from its landing spot.

Some hack that must say.

China - Our theater commanders died of cause X or Y so we must hack their helicopter and seek revenge. Sure why not.
This was the practice run.

 

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This thread should be Mourning and Remembrance thread rather than speculations and wild guesses thread.
You don't mourn a giga chad like Gen. Rawat.

You pray a 1000 more Rawats are born on this day just trying to imbibe what the man stood for. Can't be a more befitting tribute to the man.

Yes, there have been times when we found his statements outlandish, unpalatable but that is how he was... true to his personality and downright humble too. Just spoke his mind and heart out like a simple pahari and he wasn't entirely wrong most of the times.
 

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i think there is no point is spreading conspiracy theories.. those in power and knowhow know already what went wrong and we will most probably never get to know the real truth....except for optics...

Let us not speculate ..does no good to anyone...
 

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This was the practice run.

What does it say?

What do you mean? Please translate a summary.
 

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... and the chopper crashed when it was probably 5 minutes from its landing spot.

Some hack that must say.

China - Our theater commanders died of cause X or Y so we must hack their helicopter and seek revenge. Sure why not.
Lol total flight time was 30 min and 50km. So I don't know the point you are making. The malware would be designed to trigger after a certain altitude or over dangerous terrain given a flight path. I don't believe this is an accident.
 

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What does it say?

What do you mean? Please translate a summary.
Air Force helicopter crashes in North Arunachal Pradesh The Air Force Mi-17 helicopter crashed while landing at the helipad. There were five people in the helicopter at that time. They were slightly injured.
 

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Sulur chopper mishap: 'Poor weather conditions may have caused crash of Mi-17V-5', says ex-IAF pilot

Usually, during the training of pilots, there is a golden rule for pilots while flying in the hills and during cloudy weather. "If you are in clouds, you should be out of the hills and if you are in the hills there should be no clouds around," the former Indian Air Force pilot said. This was the mistake committed during the Mi17 V-5 crash during the Uttarakhand landslides in 2013 in which 20 lives were lost.

"The pilot then flew into the clouds and as such he could not see the hill. In the Coonoor crash, if there was an emergency, the pilot would have dropped the speed if visibility was poor. But seeing the impact and crash, it has all been burnt. The chopper seems to have impacted the ground at a high speed. The aircraft usually never falls like a stone," the former pilot in Chennai said.


"There is a lot of power available due to the rotor, blade and through auto rotation, it will be a controlled speed. It will topple, it will be damaged. But not to the extent of this crash, where everything is burnt. Without his realising the pilot could have hit a hill with hardly any time maneuver. He would have visualised the hill within a distance of 200 or 300 metres, which is hardly enough to reduce the speed when you are flying at 210 kilometre per hour," said the former pilot.

 

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