Hypersonic Missiles

[RoaringTigerHiddenDragon]

true but the intake of oxygen and conversion in scranjets is a lot more complex and harder to control. Very few nations able to do so. Australia has also had a advanced program in the past but nothing developed ? I think this can also help with future glide bombs for India??

This is true. Hypersonic research costs a ton as there is only so much you can do with computational fluid dynamics modeling and wind tunnel tests.

Here is a simulation of shock waves created simulated for the X-43 flying at Mach 7.

Per authors: "This rendering of the NASA X-43 experimental hypersonic vehicle, generated using computational fluid dynamics, shows shock waves produced at Mach 7—seven times the speed of sound—while the scramjet that powers its flight is operating. Such computations could not have been done in the early days of hypersonic research, when engineers were armed only with slide rules and wind tunnels. Note how the hypersonic shock waves form at the vehicle’s leading edges and at the air inlets. In merely supersonic flight the shock wave typically fans out and away from the vehicle, but at hypersonic speeds it may nestle close by. This boundary layer can be aerodynamically useful—by creating lift, for instance—but it can also cause problems should turbulence develop."

For R&D cash starved countries like ours, it is going to take a while and we are going to be behind CCPstan as they simply have more cash to iterate more.

 

[RoaringTigerHiddenDragon]

Boeing's X-51 wave rider slung under a B52 used to get the missile to required altitude. X51 flew in 2013 hypersonically for 210 seconds, the most flown by any hypersonic vehicle.

Photo: Boeing

 

[RoaringTigerHiddenDragon]

China has a robust hypersonic technology development program peer a report to the US congress. Of course, some of these claims would be exaggerated to milk the Congress for R&D moneys.
See here: https://fas.org/sgp/crs/weapons/R45811.pdf

Excerpts from that report:

• China has tested the DF-ZF HGV (previously referred to as the WU-14) at least nine times since 2014. U.S. defense officials have reportedly identified the range of the DF-ZF as approximately 1,200 miles and have stated that the missile may be capable of performing “extreme maneuvers” during flight.
• According to U.S. defense officials, China also successfully tested Starry Sky-2 (or Xing Kong 2), a nuclear-capable hypersonic vehicle prototype, in August 2018. China claims the vehicle reached top speeds of Mach 6 and executed a series of in-flight maneuvers before landing. Unlike the DF-ZF, Starry Sky-2 is a “waverider” that uses powered flight after launch and derives lift from its own shockwaves. Some reports indicate that the Starry Sky-2 could be operational by 2025.

 

[Mikesingh]

Rudram for SUs

 

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[Tridev123]

The Brahmos is of course a force multiplier because of the difficulty in intercepting it. The Chinese can only watch open mouthed.

But where is the successor to the Nirbhay. With a turbofan engine it can reach ranges of 2000 km or more. Very much needed for deep strikes into Tibet and Xinjiang. Will also be less expensive than the Brahmos.

Our desi GPS can support the Nirbhay Plus. We only need to launch more IRNSS satellites to extend the reach.

When will the first test flight of the Nirbhay successor missile take place.

 

[no smoking]

The Brahmos is of course a force multiplier because of the difficulty in intercepting it. The Chinese can only watch open mouthed.

A cruise missile with <15km maximum flying height? An easy target for 21st century air-defense system.

 

[Tridev123]

A cruise missile with <15km maximum flying height? An easy target for 21st century air-defense system.

If it was so easy to shoot down, why did the Chinese go ballistic when reports of India selling the Brahmos to Vietnam appeared.
There were statements made by the Chinese threatening counter sales of sensitive weapons to Pakistan.

Obviously no missile on earth can threaten the Chinese Air Defence System network.

But the rest of the world must believe in the effectiveness of the Chinese Aircraft Carrier killer ballistic missile,the DF21.

 

[Ajax01]

If it was so easy to shoot down, why did the Chinese go ballistic when reports of India selling the Brahmos to Vietnam appeared.
There were statements made by the Chinese threatening counter sales of sensitive weapons to Pakistan.

Obviously no missile on earth can threaten the Chinese Air Defence System network.

But the rest of the world must believe in the effectiveness of the Chinese Aircraft Carrier killer ballistic missile,the DF21.

Have they even tested it on a floating platform at sea let alone a moving carrier?

 

[panzerfeist1]

Looks like this was bumped up to mach 28. Минобороны опубликовало новые данные о скорости "Авангарда" - РИА Новости, 22.12.2020 (ria.ru)

"It accelerates to Mach 28, follows from the "Main results of the activities of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in 2012-2020", which are at the disposal of RIA Novosti."

Solid scramjet for those speeds. Russia announces successful flight test of Avangard hypersonic glide vehicle (googleusercontent.com)

Russia's Avangard hypersonic missile system has entered service (spacewar.com)

HTV-2 worked the same way. https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url...ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCOjUhYTe9-0CFQAAAAAdAAAAABAD

 

[RoaringTigerHiddenDragon]

A cruise missile with <15km maximum flying height? An easy target for 21st century air-defense system.

"supersonic" cruise missile with S-dive for terminal kinetic entry operable in hi-lo modes. Still think an air defense system will be able to take it out?
The only weakness is I see is a positioning system based target identification system. If Brahmos Aerospace can instead incorporate a scene matching type (ala SPICE 2000) target identification system, Brahmos will be pretty much unbeatable.

 

[Cruise missile]

A cruise missile with <15km maximum flying height? An easy target for 21st century air-defense system.

You better worry about your slaves since they don't have any counter against it.

 

[Tridev123]

Have they even tested it on a floating platform at sea let alone a moving carrier?

All reports say the tests were against a stationery target. Probably on land.
They are trying to scare the yanks.

They regularly hype up their weapons. Most Chinese weapons have not seen combat.

 

[no smoking]

If it was so easy to shoot down, why did the Chinese go ballistic when reports of India selling the Brahmos to Vietnam appeared.
There were statements made by the Chinese threatening counter sales of sensitive weapons to Pakistan.

Grandpa, it is a easy target when it is used to attack land base target because it can't fly low altitude on the land.

Obviously no missile on earth can threaten the Chinese Air Defence System network.

Where and when did any Chinese make that statement?

But the rest of the world must believe in the effectiveness of the Chinese Aircraft Carrier killer ballistic missile,the DF21.

The rest of the world doesn't need to believe that as long as the Americans believe that there is a certain possibility that DF21 can hit the aircraft carrier.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/chinas-military-expansion-will-test-the-biden-administration/2020/12/03/9f05e92a-35a7-11eb-8d38-6aea1adb3839_story.html

Quote:
"Davidson confirmed, for the first time from the U.S. government side, that China’s People’s Liberation Army has successfully tested an anti-ship ballistic missile against a moving ship. "

 

[silentlurker]

All reports say the tests were against a stationery target. Probably on land.
They are trying to scare the yanks.

They regularly hype up their weapons. Most Chinese weapons have not seen combat.

The NOTAM was issues for the SCS area, not on land:

 

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"supersonic" cruise missile with S-dive for terminal kinetic entry operable in hi-lo modes. Still think an air defense system will be able to take it out?
The only weakness is I see is a positioning system based target identification system. If Brahmos Aerospace can instead incorporate a scene matching type (ala SPICE 2000) target identification system, Brahmos will be pretty much unbeatable.

Any DF-21 strike on a US carrier would be met with 24 hour around the clock nuclear strikes on China by OHIO subs and B2 and B-52’s from Guam and Hawaii ; Chinese eastern seaboard would disappear.

US stealth bombers in Guam appear to be readying for a tactical nuclear strike on North Korea

B-2 stealth bombers with upgraded tactical nuclear weapons may lend themselves to killing Kim Jong Un should he hide in an underground bunker during a conflict.

www.businessinsider.com

US stealth bombers in Guam appear to be readying for a tactical nuclear strike

US sends stealth B-2s to the Pacific, warning regional rivals that America's bombers are 'on watch' 24/7

The US just deployed three B-2 Spirit bombers and more than 200 airmen to Hawaii to tell allies and rivals alike that American bombers are "on watch" 24/7.

www.businessinsider.com

US sends stealth B-2s to the Pacific, warning regional rivals that America's bombers are 'on watch' 24/7

 

[Tridev123]

Grandpa, it is a easy target when it is used to attack land base target because it can't fly low altitude on the land.




Where and when did any Chinese make that statement?


The rest of the world doesn't need to believe that as long as the Americans believe that there is a certain possibility that DF21 can hit the aircraft carrier.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/chinas-military-expansion-will-test-the-biden-administration/2020/12/03/9f05e92a-35a7-11eb-8d38-6aea1adb3839_story.html

Quote:
"Davidson confirmed, for the first time from the U.S. government side, that China’s People’s Liberation Army has successfully tested an anti-ship ballistic missile against a moving ship. "

Son, I see you are probably still wearing your diapers and wetting them as well.

There was an official reaction from the PLA when Brahmos regiments were stationed in Arunachal Pradesh. The statement acknowledged the threat from the Brahmos and characterised the deployment as being provocative. Why should the PLA react if the Brahmos was a dud and could be easily shot down.

And dont ask me to provide the source. You can Google it and do your own work.
The key word will be Brahmos deployment in Arunachal Pradesh.

As far as the Aircraft Carrier killer missile is concerned why doesn't Beijing release a video of the actual strike on a moving ship. That will help clear the matter. We have released multiple videos of the Brahmos hitting both land and sea targets.

I still don't trust Chinese propaganda on the DF21. Most Western experts are skeptical.

 

[Cruise missile]

Grandpa, it is a easy target when it is used to attack land base target because it can't fly low altitude on the land.




Where and when did any Chinese make that statement?


The rest of the world doesn't need to believe that as long as the Americans believe that there is a certain possibility that DF21 can hit the aircraft carrier.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/chinas-military-expansion-will-test-the-biden-administration/2020/12/03/9f05e92a-35a7-11eb-8d38-6aea1adb3839_story.html

Quote:
"Davidson confirmed, for the first time from the U.S. government side, that China’s People’s Liberation Army has successfully tested an anti-ship ballistic missile against a moving ship. "

Western experts say these things for psyops so their military can extract more money from their govt. I have read thousands of such fell good reports regarding China but none of them are true .