Huangqiu: China's military R&D expenditure only behind USA's


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May 20, 2009
Huangqiu Revealed that CHina's military R&D expenditure last year is about 32%-45% of USA's ,and leave other country far behind ,except USA.

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2012年,世界军事技术发展的总趋势仍然是由工程技术革命走向信息技术革命,武器装备发展正在由机械平台向信息平台过渡,战争形态正在从机械化战争向信息化战争转型。美、英、法、俄等一些军事技术大国正在积极开发新型信息技术装备,增强打赢信息化条件下局部战争的能力,世界范围内的军事技术竞赛越来越激烈,信息技术的高速发展正在引领世界军事装备和武器平台发展进入到一个崭新阶段,信息化武器和信息化战争成为2012年世界军事技术发展的核心关键词。龙腾网 ÁúÌÚÍø

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May 20, 2009
the following the is english version of the above chinese news: with the growing economy and national power,China is able to invest heavily on military tech and R&D of arm projects. it is estimated that in 2012 CHina's investment on military tech is 32%-45% of USA's. the weapons projects run by CHina is only behind that run by USA... the NO.,types and tech level of CHina weapon projects is far beyond people thought.


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China - The world's hotbed of innovation
Published December 21, 2012
A recent survey of managers sees it displacing the Silicon Valley as early as 2016
By Georges Haour and Marc Laperrouza

NEVER has the world witnessed a large market emerge so quickly as China has. As the economy grows it is also changing. China is fast climbing the value curve, transitioning from low-cost manufacturing to innovation-led growth.

In telecommunications, supercomputing, life sciences, non-fuel energy sources and "green-tech" in general, there is already a vibrant innovation/research and development (R&D) scene in China.

Over the past 20 years, investment in R&D has more than doubled in percentage terms, rising from 0.73 per cent of GDP in 1991 to 1.77 per cent in 2011. The plan is to reach 2.5 per cent - today's average for the countries of the European Union - by 2020. In absolute terms, given the rapid growth of China's GDP, the numbers are even more impressive.

Between 2000 and 2010, the volume of R&D investment expanded 6.6 times, reaching 700 billion yuan (S$137 billion) in 2010. At this rate, China could soon go from being the world's biggest factory to becoming a main laboratory for the planet.
China set to surpass U.S. in R&D spending in 10 years

China's overall R&D is a little more than half that of U.S. and growing rapidly; U.S. is stalling
By Patrick Thibodeau
December 24, 2012 06:00 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- It was a ghost who revealed to Ebenezer Scrooge the "shadows of what may be," but today we rely on studies for similar, if not equally dramatic insights. One such study, released last week, predicts that 2023 may be the year that America loses its global R&D leadership.

Based on current trends, China is on track to overtake the U.S. in spending on research and development in about 10 years, as federal R&D spending either declines or remains flat.
R&D spending chart

The U.S. today maintains a large lead in R&D spending over China, with federal and private sector investment expected to reach $424 billion next year, a 1.2% increase.

By contrast, China's overall R&D spending is $220 billion next year, an increase of 11.6% over 2012, a rate similar to previous years, according to the 2013 Global R&D Funding Forecast prepared by Battelle, a research and technology development organization, and R&D Magazine. "The U.S. still has a significant lead and advantage in R&D over all of these countries," said Martin Grueber, one of the authors of the report and a lead researcher at Battelle, "but the concern is R&D is a long-term investment, and as these other countries continue to grow their R&D capabilities ... how long can we maintain that advantage?"

A major share of R&D research in the U.S. is funded by the federal government, which is expected to budget $129 billion for R&D next year, a decline of 1.4%. This figure could decrease even further if Congress does not resolve its budget impasse.

Government R&D spending is seen as particularly important because, unlike the private sector, it funds basic research. This is research that often takes years or decades to yield results, but it can also lead to new industries and jobs.

Other emerging economies, besides China, are also spending more on R&D. India, for instance, will invest about $45 billion next year in R&D, an increase of just over 12%.

President Obama has called for national R&D expenditures equal to 3% of GDP, which includes private and government investment. The forecast for next year is 2.66% of GDP, according to the Battelle forecast.

The White House also believes that China may overtake the U.S. in R&D spending.

"China's investment as a percentage of its GDP shows continuing, deliberate growth that, if it continues, should surpass the roughly flat United States investment within a decade," said the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology.

R&D is also being hurt by offshoring, which according to the White House report, "has negative long-term consequences for the United States."

The report also said that R&D returns to the U.S. economy are "likely highest when the research is both generated and used within the United States."

Congress appears unlikely to take steps in the near term to improve R&D spending. If anything, there are worries that the so-called fiscal cliff and other budget actions may reduce spending.

Rob Atkinson, president of the Information Technology and Innovation Foundation, said that if sequester happens, it will lead to a cut of 8.8% or $12.5 billion in federally funded research and development funds in 2013 with similar cuts the following years. Similarly, the American Association for the Advancement of Science estimates a budget reduction about as high.

"The fiscal climate right now is just not conducive to growth in federal research investments," said Peter Harsha, director of government affairs of the Computing Research Association. "That's a disturbing trend, especially given the growing research capacity of our global economic competitors. The U.S. leadership role isn't a birthright."
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May 7, 2011
Many R&D means copy, some R&D mesns stealing.

China to launch 20 spacecrafts in 2013 - China News - SINA English
China plans to launch 20 spacecrafts this year, including the country's third lunar probe Chang'e-3 and manned spacecraft Shenzhou-10, China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation (CASC) announced Wednesday.

The country is scheduled to conduct a manned space docking test between orbiting target module Tiangong-1 and Shenzhou-10, the corporation said during an internal work conference.

The Chang'e-3 moon probe is expected to land and stay there during the second stage of the country's lunar probe program, it said.

According to CASC, by 2020, China will have more than 200 spacecrafts operating in orbit, accounting for about 20 percent of the world's total.


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Apr 8, 2012
When talking about the amount of R&D spending, not only in military, it might be the truth that China is just behind of Uncle Sam.

But the ratio of the R&D investment versus GDP clearly shows the much potential room for China to grow up on this aspect.

On the current stage China is investing 1.8% of its GDP on R&D, with aiming at increase this ratio to 2% by 2015.

I think the ratio of China will become stable around 2.5% ~ 3% or so finally in the coming decades, similar to the US nowadays.

As well, the ratio of Japan, South Korea, Jews and Northen European states can't be ingnored on this list, all of them are pretty high.

But being a big country with 1.3 billion people, i doubt China could reach the same height like them without generating negative influences on other aspects.

From wiki:
List of countries by research and development spending - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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