How to Tackle China If war errupts in near future

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Dear friends,

if any war erupts between china and india in near future, then are we prepare for it....
our modernization pace for army, navy and air force is too slow...
Our external/foreign policies are so poor to manage or at least make some good relations with our neighbors. Example is china's space research wing is taking into confidence of our maximum immediate neighboring countries. But this is not only for space. China is winning there confidence which they can use against india. China will do this for making herself Superpower of asia....

Pls shed some light on this topic...

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I thought India has nuclear tippled missiles? If it has, then there's nothing to discuss.
 

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It's not that easy frnd...
india has second strike doctrine...
lets suppose china has not fired nuclear weapon then how to tackle..
A NON NUCLEAR WAR WITH CHINA..
 

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It's not that easy frnd...
india has second strike doctrine...
lets suppose china has not fired nuclear weapon then how to tackle..
A NON NUCLEAR WAR WITH CHINA..

Then India's nuclear weapons is an utter waste of taxpayers money. The Indian government could just have used those money on poor Indians. The aim of (very expensive) nuclear weapons is to stop other countries from attacking you. But if it will not serve that purpose then what's the use of having one?
 

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forget about Air and Naval ... can our Indian Army matches the chinese? ... In this article it mentioned that Chinese army is the biggest army in the world, followed by US then India. And chinese are copying US technology and making their own fighters, where are we are completely depended on other countries to import the flights (apart form dhruv) ... our technology development in the military ....

IMO china will not dare to attack on India, that will surely brings WWIII into the picture ....
 

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Then India's nuclear weapons is an utter waste of taxpayers money. The Indian government could just have used those money on poor Indians. The aim of (very expensive) nuclear weapons is to stop other countries from attacking you. But if it will not serve that purpose then what's the use of having one?
Dear friend,
India's expertiese on nuclear technology is not a waste of money. It provide us nuclear deterrence over enemy country. But in a stage where both india and china did't wana choose nuclear weapons, i m asking a discussion on that topic..
no nuclear weapon..
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Dear friend,

If looking at statical figures,
china is ahead of india in each and every prospective, either in case of our army, air force or navy. reason is there extensive r&d(reverse engineering other nation's defence equipment), funds provided for all wings r&d and time since this research is going on..
China has been using pak, naxalisam, fake currency, etc in making india busy on these fronts and in the mean time succeds in making herself strong...
 

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A better question(s) to ask is would India take advantage of substantial political and social instability in PRC (if and when it were to come about). For example in Tibet and Xinjiang. Separation of North and South China regions. Insertion and promotion of democracy. My feeling is no at this moment. But the Pakistan and PRC relationship is one for thought.

Any good news from our PRC comrades on the PM Manmohan Singh visit. whats the word on the street across the border in PRC.
 

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Then India's nuclear weapons is an utter waste of taxpayers money. The Indian government could just have used those money on poor Indians. The aim of (very expensive) nuclear weapons is to stop other countries from attacking you. But if it will not serve that purpose then what's the use of having one?
you and ph would be so happy if india/china destroy each other in a nuclear war, isn't it.:tsk:
 

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A better question(s) to ask is would India take advantage of substantial political and social instability in PRC (if and when it were to come about). For example in Tibet and Xinjiang. Separation of North and South China regions. Insertion and promotion of democracy. My feeling is no at this moment. But the Pakistan and PRC relationship is one for thought.
If India tries to take advantage of Tibet/Xinjiang, what do you think would stop China from helping those insurgents groups and separatists in India?
 

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Dear frinends,

a one on one war with china will lead to destruction only...
where both countries have huge air force, army and navy, when they clash, it will be god of wars...
 

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forget about Air and Naval ... can our Indian Army matches the chinese? ... In this article it mentioned that Chinese army is the biggest army in the world, followed by US then India. And chinese are copying US technology and making their own fighters, where are we are completely depended on other countries to import the flights (apart form dhruv) ... our technology development in the military ....

IMO china will not dare to attack on India, that will surely brings WWIII into the picture ....
See this link for numbers of Chinese, India and US manpower.

Available Military Manpower by Country
 

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Dear frinends,

a one on one war with china will lead to destruction only...
where both countries have huge air force, army and navy, when they clash, it will be god of wars...
 
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If India tries to take advantage of Tibet/Xinjiang, what do you think would stop China from helping those insurgents groups and separatists in India?
There is a presumption that PRC is not helping insurgent groups and separatists in India. I am not too familiar to make a conclusion at this moment. The precedent in Nepal can be explored. One can however develop a strong premise to show that Pakistan is being supported, reinforced and many say motivated against India by the PRC.

China defends its plans to build nuclear reactors in Pakistan

http://articles.economictimes.india...and-pakistan-chashma-chinese-foreign-ministry

There is also a strong premise that India has not taken advantage and has not made any arrangement to disturb directly what is happening in Tibet and Xinjiang and North and South China relationship, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and insertion and promotion of democracy at this moment. The 1962 war and Dali Lama and american relationship are in the background. there is also the PRC relationship with its other neighbors, Russia is also there because PRC back stabbed them royally, there is also the nuclear weapons and the UNSC.

If PRC tries to take advantage of Pakistan against India, what do you think would stop India from reacting. PRC has not had the privilege of the India intellectual community and its concentration be focused on PRC. Its how we deal with Pakistan. To be frank the Pakis are difficult to deal with but we have managed well intellectually. It is not a short-term development rather a medium to long term development. The Pakis are difficult ask any nation apart from India and compare with PRC (in terms of difficulty). The Chinese are known to be pragmatic.

Next (if and when it were to come about) there is substantial political and social instability in PRC. For example the end of the Communist party rule in PRC. For example what happened to Soviet Union. Will India have a contingency in place to take advantage of that in its favor. Promotion of self-determination in regions in PRC, insertion of stable forces, support of political parties. For example what happened in dissolution of soviet union. My feeling is no at this moment - India will not get involved.

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But the above takes away from the better proposition one for thought and that is that assumption that the PRC and Pakistan relationship will always be rosy, auspicious and happy for each other. I find it hard to believe the Pakis can request the Chinese to do something for them. Pakis are not known to be good disciples, devotees and adherent to others. You can ask the Americans, Afgans and Indians. Can PRC rely on Pakistan. How to make Pakistan rely on PRC. Will PRC make Pakistan like North Korea. Can India enlighten the PRC that unlike North Korea the Pakis will not be fanatic zealot towards it always.

I know Chinese people are pragmatic and in the end they will prefer to share a drink with Indians rather the Pakis. Perhaps someone needs to remind the PRC of that one day. If that is done India need to worry much less about a war and confrontation with PRC.

Whats the word on the beijing street from the Manmohan Singh visit. What do you think were the main takeaways.
 
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If India tries to take advantage of Tibet/Xinjiang, what do you think would stop China from helping those insurgents groups and separatists in India?
Are you guys not already doing that? Supporting the insurgents groups and separatists in India.
 

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If PRC tries to take advantage of Pakistan against India, what do you think would stop India from reacting. PRC has not had the privilege of the India intellectual community and its concentration be focused on PRC. Its how we deal with Pakistan. To be frank the Pakis are difficult to deal with but we have managed well intellectually. It is not a short-term development rather a medium to long term development. The Pakis are difficult ask any nation apart from India and compare with PRC (in terms of difficulty). The Chinese are known to be pragmatic.
Regarding Pakistan case, it is not "IF", China is taking advantage of Pakistan against India.

Next (if and when it were to come about) there is substantial political and social instability in PRC. For example the end of the Communist party rule in PRC. For example what happened to Soviet Union. Will India have a contingency in place to take advantage of that in its favor. Promotion of self-determination in regions in PRC, insertion of stable forces, support of political parties. For example what happened in dissolution of soviet union. My feeling is no at this moment - India will not get involved.
It is true that there are substantial political and social instability in China, but India is also facing the same problem, even worse! With only around 60% of Hindus within India population, do you think india would be in a better position to handle separatists?


But the above takes away from the better proposition one for thought and that is that assumption that the PRC and Pakistan relationship will always be rosy, auspicious and happy for each other. I find it hard to believe the Pakis can request the Chinese to do something for them. Pakis are not known to be good disciples, devotees and adherent to others. You can ask the Americans, Afgans and Indians. Can PRC rely on Pakistan. How to make Pakistan rely on PRC. Will PRC make Pakistan like North Korea. Can India enlighten the PRC that unlike North Korea the Pakis will not be fanatic zealot towards it always.
Don't worry about Sino-Pakistan relationship, as long as India is here and strong than Pakistan, we are good.

I know Chinese people are pragmatic and in the end they will prefer to share a drink with Indians rather the Pakis. Perhaps someone needs to remind the PRC of that one day. If that is done India need to worry much less about a war and confrontation with PRC.
You still don't get it, as the 2 countries which intends to become superpower, neither of them has interest in sharing a drink with another one.

Whats the word on the beijing street from the Manmohan Singh visit. What do you think were the main takeaways.
I don't know, I am living in Australia.
 

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