How have Russia and China resolved territorial disputes completely?

amoy

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When I was a pupil in our textbooks China referred to "Nerchinsk Treaty" as the border demarcation between Russia and China made in 1689 , according to which China claimed a vast land till Sea of Japan including Vladivostok today (we called Haishenwai)

Since then, the two countries through negotiations on an equal footing, at 28 years (1689) and Russia signed the "Treaty Nerchinsk" legally defined the eastern section of the Sino-Russian border, which is China and Western countries to sign the first treaty .
But hundreds of years after that treaty China had been decaying all the time.... Then what mutual compromises/concessions have been made to solve all the disputes in a new world context?

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The border between the Soviet Union and the People's Republic of China had long been an issue of contention. The Sino-Soviet border was a legacy of various treaties between the Qing Dynasty and the Russian Empire, the Treaty of Aigun and the Treaty of Beijing, in which Russia gained over 1 million km² (400,000 mi²) of territory in Manchuria at China's expense, and another 500,000 km² in the western regions from several other treaties. These treaties have long been regarded by Chinese as unequal treaties, and the issue partially arose again with the Sino-Soviet split, with tensions eventually leading to division-scale military clashes along the border in 1969.

Even as tensions lessened and leaders on both sides adopted more conciliatory attitudes, the border issue remained unresolved. Despite the view of the previous border treaties as unequal ones, Chinese leaders were willing to negotiate on the basis of the modern boundaries. That left about 35,000 km² of territory in dispute, with about 28,000 km² in the Pamir Mountains of Tajikistan, 6,000 km² elsewhere along the western border, and about 1,000 km² along the Argun, Amur, and Ussuri rivers on the eastern border[1]. Border negotiations were eventually resumed in 1987 at Mikhail Gorbachev's initiation. An agreement was reached on the eastern portion of the border on May 16, 1991, several months before the final dissolution of the USSR. Russia inherited most of the former Sino-Soviet border, and ratified the agreement in February 1992, while the other post-Soviet republics negotiated separate border agreements.

Full details ---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Sino-Soviet_Border_Agreement

May that shed a little light on possible Sino-India territorial solutions?
 

AkhandBharat

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What are you trying to say???

Sino-Indian disputes are not going to be settled anytime soon. It will only happen under one of the following conditions:

1) China disintegrates in the future and Tibet goes free and India-Tibet border demarcation treaty comes into effect.
2) China fights a war with India for settling its western borders in which case, it loses atleast a decade worth of growth.
3) India disintegrates and China occupies everything it considers as its western border.

It will not be settled peacefully, because China wants atleast Tawang in order to integrate Tibet fully and India is only willing to trade some of the unsettled land in AP for Aksai Chin.
 

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When I was a pupil in our textbooks China referred to "Nerchinsk Treaty" as the border demarcation between Russia and China made in 1689 , according to which China claimed a vast land till Sea of Japan including Vladivostok today (we called Haishenwai)

But hundreds of years after that treaty China had been decaying all the time.... Then what mutual compromises/concessions have been made to solve all the disputes in a new world context?

May that shed a little light on possible Sino-India territorial solutions?
Perhaps.

But here is what you must understand about us: We are not willing to give up another square-inch of our territory. Why? We believe we have already relinquished enough by acquiescing to Chinese occupation of Tibet- in return for a reciprocal understanding on our border areas, which ironically China, to our chagrin and both our perils, is threatening to violate. You may believe the 1962 war was a war for 'self-defence', but in our opinion, China's expansionist policies in Tibet, that culminated with it's occupation, necessitated a 'Forward Deployment' of our own*.

*That acceptance btw, of Chinese occupation of Tibet, is purely with respect to its current occupation. It doesn't envisage a historical occupation, as indeed the Tibetans controlled Beijing for a limited time during a previous war. And it does not envisage an indefinite future occupation, as is evident in the fact that the Dalai Lama is being housed in our country. Most Indians permit solidarity with the Tibetans on the basis of a common culture and strain of religion. Nations rise, nations fall. And the behemoth today is the enemy tomorrow.

- We are a large population with a steady landmass. Very soon, we are going to have a problem of 'Lebensraum'. As we perceive more threats to our territory from various quarters, diminished as it is because of Pakistan's occupation of a part of Kashmir, that middle-class electorate of Indians that command its politics will grow ever more aggressive, seeking greater involvement of the Army in the state- which, as we know is good for noone. Were it not for the pliant states with porous points of transit and entry & exit that surrounded us, we would have perhaps already gone to war. On the other hand, you have large, if treacherous land. And the fact that you can populate it leaves you greater room to maneuver.

- Russia can afford to make concessions on land with some less pithy, simply because it is one gigantic landmass, with a limited population.

- Any settlement on land will have to be not just equal, it will have to be to our relative advantage, which is clearly not forthcoming from China. Simply because the thing upon which we ponder settlement, is more scarce to us than it is to you.
 

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Rage :hu hu good reply and by the way ' did you ever prepared for GRE' I am just kidding . Good use of words.. finally what you said is outstanding ..
 

amoy

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Frankly enjoying your powerful logic, I shall have had a good reading of Mein Kampf
 

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