Hong Kong protests Chinese extradition bill

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It looks like someone is not happy with China warming up to Iran.

Anyway, it looks bigger than Tiananmen Sqaure:

Let this be a lesson to India in understanding the risk associated with letting your citizens puppy-zhuppy with PIOs and OCIs. I am absolutely in favor of terminating PIO and OCI programs; this is how Khalistanis recruit members in India.
 
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It looks like someone is not happy with China warming up to Iran.

Anyway, it looks bigger than Tiananmen Sqaure:

Let this be a lesson to India in understanding the risk associated with letting your citizens puppy-zhuppy with PIOs and OCIs. I am absolutely in favor of terminating PIO and OCI programs; this is how Khalistanis recruit members in India.
What is pio and oci btw?

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What is pio and oci btw?

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NRI PIO OCI – What’s the difference?

*This article has been updated to reflect the removal of the PIO status as of 9 January 2015. If you currently hold a PIO card, it will be treated as an OCI card. Updates are marked in blue.



For many Indians, moving out of India is a symbol of status. It is a matter of pride for a family to be able to say their son is working in the US and their daughter is in Dubai.

However, Indians who live abroad also work very hard at maintaining a strong connection to India.

This creates trouble for the Indian government in figuring out how to deal with the more than 22 million Indians living in another country. What about land ownership? Voting? Taxation? While many have renounced their Indian citizenship, they still want to be active in India.

There are three terms you should be familiar with that categorize Indians who live abroad: NRI, PIO, and OCI.



The Short Version
NRIs (Non-Resident Indians) are Indian Citizens who live in another country.

PIO (Person of Indian Origin) used to be a 15 year visa for non-Indian citizens, but it has since been removed.

OCIs (Overseas Citizen of India) are non-Indian citizens who have a lifetime visa to live and work in India with fewer restrictions.



The Long Version

NRI
While OCIs have given up their full Indian citizenship, NRIs are still citizens of India. This is technically a tax classification as opposed to a visa status.

Who can be an NRI?
An Indian citizen residing outside India for a combined total of at least 183 days in a financial year (from April 1 to March 31).

What are the benefits of being a NRI?
  • You can get special bank accounts from Indian banks.
  • You can continue to own land and property in India.
  • Your earnings outside India are not taxed by the Indian government, provided you have paid taxes in the nation you reside in. Local earnings in India (interest, rental income) are still taxed.
  • There is a special quota of seats in Indian universities reserved for NRIs.
  • You can still vote, but you have to be in India to do it.
What are the drawbacks?
  • You may need permission to take out money invested in India.
  • You may not purchase agricultural land or farm houses.
  • You may not hold a government job.
  • You may not be elected to a political position.
How do you become an NRI?
There is no application form needed. The only official record of being an NRI comes on your yearly tax filing. This status can change from year to year. If you wish to open an NRI bank account, you simply need to inform your bank of your plans.



OCI
An Overseas Citizen of India is a lifetime visa status. It is the closest thing to dual citizenship that India offers.

Who can be an OCI?
(This list was expanded as of 9 January 2015)

  1. A person who used to be an Indian citizen
  2. A person with at least one parent, grandparent, or great-grandparent who is/was an Indian citizen
  3. A person married to an Indian citizen or an existing OCI for at least two continuous years
The following groups of people cannot have OCI status:

  • Anyone who was ever a citizen of Pakistan or Bangladesh
  • Anyone whose parents or grandparents were citizens of Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, China, or Sri Lanka
  • Anyone who served in a foreign military or worked in a foreign defense department
What are the benefits of being an OCI?
  • Lifelong multiple entry visa to India
  • You never have to report to the FRRO regardless of the length of your stay
  • You can eventually become a citizen of India if you remain an OCI for 5 years and live in India for at least 1 year (short breaks are now allowed)
  • You can use special counters during immigration
  • You don’t need a student visa to study in India
  • You don’t need an employment visa to get a job
  • You can open a special bank account in India, just like an NRI
  • You can make investments in India
  • You can buy non-farm property and exercise property ownership rights
  • Your can use your OCI card to apply for a driver’s license, open a bank account, or get a PAN card
  • You get the same economic, financial, and education benefits as NRIs (e.g. reserved admission quotas), and you can adopt children like an NRI
  • You pay the Indian resident fee when visiting a national parks, monuments, museums or wildlife sanctuary (of course it is ultimately up to the discretion of the man issuing tickets)
What are the drawbacks?
  • You may not purchase agricultural land or farm houses
  • You may not vote
  • You may not hold a government job
  • You may not be elected to a political position
  • You may not travel to restricted areas without permission
How do you become an OCI?
You can apply through the Indian embassy in your country of residence or within India at the local FRRO.

Here is a sample of documentation you will need (see your local consulate for a specific list):

  • Proof of present citizenship
  • Proof of former Indian citizenship (for you or your relative)
  • Proof of renunciation of Indian citizenship (if applicable)
  • Proof of relationship to an Indian citizen
The entire process can take several months in some cases. Fees vary from nationality to nationality. If you apply in India, the fee is Rs. 15,000 for an adult or Rs. 8,000 for a minor. You can convert a PIO card to an OCI card if you qualify, and the fees are very nominal.

You can start the process by going to http://passport.gov.in/oci/.
 

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Chinese will crack down this HK protest brutally and the world will not be able to do a fuck about it . Just wait and watch . Even the way Trump had spoken it looks like he is reading the CCP press statement .
 

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Protect next generation, speak for conscience: A ground report from the Hong Kong protests

Even as the deadlock continues, many believe that the solution to this crisis has to come from within rather than from outside. The international community has taken the matter to the United Nations.

One of the protesters said, "I don't think the UN can solve this problem, especially with the way the Security Council functions. We Hong Kong people want to deal with it by ourselves but with the help of US, UK and the international community.
 

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China wants democracy in Kashmir, but not in China. China sympathizes with 1 thousand pro-democracy protesters in Kashmir, but not with 1 million pro-democracy protesters in Hong Kong.
That tells us that Chinese stand on Kashmir is nothing but hypocrisy.
 

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Hong Kong government's attempt to outflank protesters is doomed to fail.


Hong Kong (CNN) — Hong Kong leader Carrie Lam announced Wednesday that she will finally withdraw the loathed extradition bill that kick-started three months of violent protests. The move was greeted not with the relief or happiness she might have hoped for, but with frustration and anger that the compromise had taken so long.
Few expect the unrest to stop anytime soon. The government may hope to outflank the protest movement by painting them as unwilling to accept compromise, but even some of Lam's allies have publicly said that the withdrawal was too little, too late.
Hong Kong protesters' 5 demands

  1. Fully withdraw the extradition bill
  2. Set up an independent inquiry to probe police brutality
  3. Withdraw the characterization of protests as "riots"
  4. Release those arrested at protests
  5. Implement universal suffrage in Hong Kong
Lam has walked right up to the line of an effective solution and stopped just short, just as she did in June when she suspended the bill instead of withdrawing it.

https://edition-m.cnn.com/2019/09/0...intl-hnk/index.html?r=https://www.google.com/
 

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