HH Dalai Lama's Tawang visit!

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India's stance on the Dalai Lama and Tibet has never changed. It has always acknowledged Chinese soverignty over Tibet, and has always been aggressive in keeping Tibetans in India from making a ruckus. The talk between the two leaders changed nothing, but instead maintained the status quo.
Well, what you said is Nehru's bullshit China policy. On paper nothing seem to have changed but after 1962 much have changed in Indian general mass. And on restrictions, well India never hide what Dalai Lama do in India. So by not allowing foreign journalists to cover Dalai Lama visit this time, GOI is virtually surrendering against Chinese pressure(referring to the latest conversation/talk).
 

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http://www.ptinews.com/news/364023_Foreign-journos-apply-for-permission-to-visit-Arunachal

Foreign journos apply for permission to visit Arunachal

STAFF WRITER 21:40 HRS IST

New Delhi, Nov 5 (PTI) Government tonight said a number of foreign journalists have applied for permission to travel to Arunachal Pradesh to cover the visit of the Dalai Lama and the applications are under process.

Official sources insisted that no journalist has been denied permission, contradicting a media report which said that foreign scribes have been disallowed from travelling to the North Eastern state.

The Tibetan spiritual leader will be undertaking a week-long visit to Arunachal Pradesh, which is being objected to by China as it lays claim over the territory.

The sources said 14 Delhi-based foreign journalists and five others based abroad have sought permission to travel to Arunachal Pradesh to cover the visit and these are being processed by the Ministry of External Affairs.

As per the rules, foreigners have to approach the MEA for Restricted Area Permit to travel to the sensitive state.
 

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why don't you start a poll here on our website and you will see what the popular opinion is.
Hardly representative of the Indian populous. I'm talking about a well-done large scale poll.
 

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I don't think most Indians have an opinion about Tibet at all. But those who do, generally tend to support "Free Tibet".
 

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Koji, how would you know anything about polls?
Anyways, Those who are informed about Tibet will tell you they support Tibet. Large section of even the educated lot may still not be well informed about Tibet. So there can be any conclusive poll about it. DFI will clearly show that the Indian members are on the side of Tibet.
 

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It's stupid. India is been projected as a week nation. One talk and policy on Dalai Lama changed suddenly. I remember, foreign ministry asking China to stop its infrastructure projects in POK. To my knowledge and all indication they didn't even took note of it. We are having very stupid government in center.
sorry sir . disagree - i firmly believe this is the beginning of a gradual change in policy - india has stood firm on allowing the visit to go through despite earlier " furious" objections from the CPC.
 

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India's stance on the Dalai Lama and Tibet has never changed. It has always acknowledged Chinese soverignty over Tibet, and has always been aggressive in keeping Tibetans in India from making a ruckus. The talk between the two leaders changed nothing, but instead maintained the status quo.
that is your pro CPC inrterpretation and of course, your rights to an opinion .
on the other hand i have reason to feel the policy is changing although the GOI is wise to do it gradually and sure china is an important neighbour so their outlook is also to be taken into account , but thre relationship is not going to be as one-sided as before.
 

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The Indian government does not represent the popular Indian view, most Indians do not agree with the government and support the Tibetans fully.
LF being a friend , my comment happens to be in agreement and additional to what he has i believe correctly stated. i would add that the GOI is being shrewdly cautious in forging ahead with an evolvng policy over the TAR ( tibet autonomous region) and yes most indian people view HH DL as a spitritual leader and are fully supported in that role at the very least .
 

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India is the only nation that has a spine and is standing upto China.

Unlike US which is bending backwards to accomodate
1. China - which stands for everything unAmerican
2. Saudis - who are financing an ideology which threatens to claim more American lives
3. Iranians - who are actively involved in killing American soldiers and hurting American allies
4. Pakistanis - who have the blood of more American soldiers than any other nation.
etc. Obama is nothing but a failure for US and all are exploiting a weak US.\

India OTOH has refused to back down, not only have we supported Tibetans for the last 5 decades but also refused to backdown whenever it comes to our integrity. It was China which finally had to recognise Sikkim as a part of China, it was China which finally backed down on the nuclear issue, it was China which backed down on the Dalai Lama issue, it was China which had to eat humble pie after India was awarded loans for AP, our strong stand on visa issues.

Dalai Lama Lesson

India shows the world how to stand firm with China.

As President Obama prepares for his trip to Beijing next month, he'd be wise to cast an eye toward New Delhi, where Prime Minister Manmohan Singh is showing the rest of the world how to deal with Beijing when it gets into a bullying mood.

At issue is the Dalai Lama's proposed trip next month to visit Tibetan Buddhist believers in Arunachal Pradesh, a province governed by India but claimed by China since the 1962 border war. Chinese spokesperson Ma Zhaoxu said last week the trip "further exposed the anti-China and separatist nature of the Dalai clique."

But India stood firm. During a regional summit over the weekend Prime Minister Manmohan Singh says he "explained to Premier Wen [Jiabao] that the Dalai Lama is our honored guest; he is a religious leader." The prime minister went on to imply that the Dalai Lama was free to travel where he pleased, so long as he did not engage in politics

This contrasts with Mr. Obama's decision not to meet with the Dalai Lama earlier this month. His cave-in broke Presidential precedent and emboldened Beijing to step up anti-Dalai Lama rhetoric, particularly in—guess where—India, which has hosted Tibet's government-in-exile for more than 50 years.

Mr. Singh will face further China tests soon, given the other conflicts with his northern neighbor. China and India still dispute their 2,200-mile long border, and Indian defense officials say that Chinese incursions into Indian territory are on the rise. The two also have disputes over Kashmir and Nepal.

Those irritants are more reason for Mr. Singh to stand firm on the principles for which India stands—the very same principles of democracy and freedom that America holds. Therein lies a lesson for Mr. Obama's China diplomacy as well.

India Uses Dalai Lama Visit to Send Signal to China - WSJ.com

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Our growth with democracy, our booming industries in a free market, our prosperity with secularism, our stability in diversity, cultivating our people as assets all this is a slap on PR China's existential ideology.
 

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It's stupid. India is been projected as a week nation. One talk and policy on Dalai Lama changed suddenly. I remember, foreign ministry asking China to stop its infrastructure projects in POK. To my knowledge and all indication they didn't even took note of it. We are having very stupid government in center.
True my friend. India indeed a soft nation. I miss Indra Gandhi. She was only true iron lady. By the way Iam a sikh and Indian. Still admire Indira Gandhi. Other's r useless.:india::india::india::india:
 

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If so many posters love free Tibet why don't you appeal to Indian government to free South Tibet as you call it AP? Is there any Indian unaware of that it is Tibetan area? In this case the Tibetans would have an autonomous government in Lasa and an independent government in Tawang, a quite good solution.
 

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If so many posters love free Tibet why don't you appeal to Indian government to free South Tibet as you call it AP? Is there any Indian unaware of that it is Tibetan area? In this case the Tibetans would have an autonomous government in Lasa and an independent government in Tawang, a quite good solution.
What makes you think that a government already so careful NOT to offend China over Tibet will allow the Tibetans to form a formal independent government in India? They already block news access, and haul away Tibetan protestors (for example the Olympics).
 

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To an extant, this is a responsible move. You wouldn't want foreign media cooking up whatever comes to its mind from what it sees there. Instead, they can cite reports from Indian media (if it is allowed to cover).

For India, HH The Dalai Lama is not a strategic asset which everyone who doesn't want peace between India and China is making out to be. On the other hand, He, like several of His kind in India, is a spiritual leader who is given asylum.
 

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If so many posters love free Tibet why don't you appeal to Indian government to free South Tibet as you call it AP?
Because the Tibetan Government in Exile acknowledges AP as part of India, so does the Tibetan community. Nobody, be it the Tibetan community or the local population of AP, is protesting India's control over AP, other than your Han comrades.
 

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Why is this thread in Indian Sub-Continent section?

Arunachal is a part of India. This thread should be in Indian Affairs thread
 

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What makes you think that a government already so careful NOT to offend China over Tibet will allow the Tibetans to form a formal independent government in India? They already block news access, and haul away Tibetan protestors (for example the Olympics).
Blocking of news access on HH Dalai lama is a media lie.

China should be grateful to India for protecting its image in world by reigning in Tibetan protestors during Olympics while China's reputation was in tatters all over the world.
 

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Blocking of news access on HH Dalai lama is a media lie.

China should be grateful to India for protecting its image in world by reigning in Tibetan protestors during Olympics while China's reputation was in tatters all over the world.
It is reported by the NY Times, CNN, BBC, and Yahoo news.
 

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It is reported by the NY Times, CNN, BBC, and Yahoo news.
Naaah..see this article, more authentic news as far as India is concerned. The syndicated news on international media is more likely planted by China to spread lies.

fullstory

PTI - Press Trust of India
 

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What makes you think that a government already so careful NOT to offend China over Tibet will allow the Tibetans to form a formal independent government in India? They already block news access, and haul away Tibetan protestors (for example the Olympics).
I know the stand of Indian government on Tibetan issues. Since the posters claimed that the majority Indians want it other ways my suggestion could serve as an option for change.

Because the Tibetan Government in Exile acknowledges AP as part of India, so does the Tibetan community. Nobody, be it the Tibetan community or the local population of AP, is protesting India's control over AP, other than Han communist Chinese.
Tibetan autonomous government is in Lasa. Are you saying that one of the Tibetan Dalai Lamas was Indian? Please elaborate.
 

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