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Dalai Lama to tour Arunachal Pradesh despite China ire

Dalai Lama to tour Arunachal Pradesh despite China ire

Dharmsala: The Dalai Lama is going ahead with a scheduled visit to India's remote northeastern state of Arunachal Pradesh next month, ignoring protests by China, which claims the region as its territory, a spokesman said on Thursday.

The Tibetan spiritual leader will visit the Tawang Buddhist monastery in the state bordering China on November 08, said Phuptel Samphel, a spokesman of the Tibetan government-in-exile.

Beijing on Tuesday protested the upcoming trip.

"We are resolutely against Dalai's visit," Foreign Ministry spokesman Ma Zhaoxu told reporters. "We think that has further exposed the anti-China and separatist nature of the Dalai clique."

China accuses the Dalai Lama of seeking independence for Tibet, but the Nobel Peace Prize laureate says he only wants autonomy for the Himalayan region to practice its Buddhist culture.

India's Foreign Ministry responded to China's complaint by saying the Dalai Lama was free to travel anywhere within India, where he has lived along with a government-in-exile since fleeing Tibet following a failed 1959 uprising against Chinese rule.

China has never recognised a British colonial-era border known as the McMahon Line that designated the northeastern Arunachal Pradesh region as part of India. China also occupies a chunk of territory in Kashmir that India regards as its own.

China last week also protested a visit to Arunachal Pradesh by Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.

Ties between India and China have improved vastly since a brief border war in the region in 1962, but they remain divided over territorial claims dating back to the conflict. In recent years, the two Asian giants have held 13 rounds of talks on settling their border dispute but have made little progress.

The Dalai Lama will spend four days in Arunachal Pradesh praying and meeting with followers and will visit the monastery town of Bomdila and the state capital, Itanagar, Samphel said.

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The Telegraph - Calcutta (Kolkata) | Frontpage | Dalai Lama to visit Tawang Social work, sermons to mark weeklong itinerary from Nov. 8

Dalai Lama to visit Tawang
- Social work, sermons to mark weeklong itinerary from Nov. 8


OUR BUREAU


Arunachal Calling: The Dalai Lama
at Dharamsala. (PTI)


New Delhi/Itanagar, Oct. 23: The Dalai Lama, the supreme spiritual leader of the Buddhists, will visit Arunachal Pradesh for seven days from November 8 though China continues to oppose his trip to the Himalayan state.

The deputy commissioner of Tawang district, Gamli Padu, today confirmed the spiritual leader’s visit. “Dalai Lama will arrive at Tawang on November 8. He is scheduled to fly from Guwahati and reach Tawang at 10am,” he said.

“His itinerary includes inauguration of the OPD block of a super-speciality hospital in Tawang, preaching sermons and planting trees at the Yidgha Choezin ground during his stay at the district headquarters till November 13.

“He will return to Itanagar on November 14 after a brief stopover at Bomdila. The Tibetan leader is expected to visit Theravada monastery at Vivek Vihar and Itanagar Gompa during his daylong stay at the state capital before leaving for Guwahati on November 15,” Padu added.

This will be the Dalai Lama’s fifth trip to Tawang, through which he had found an escape route while fleeing from Tibet at the height of Chinese aggression in 1959.

In the face of China’s persistent protest against the spiritual leader’s visit to Arunachal Pradesh, his trip had to be cancelled last year.

China has opposed his visit again this year, but following New Delhi’s assurance that the government had no plans to revert his trip plan, the monks at Tawang monastery are gearing up to welcome their spiritual leader.

Hundreds of monks and devotees of the Dalai Lama are holding prayers and special rituals every day to make his trip smooth.

China had also condemned the visit of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, who went to Arunachal Pradesh for election campaign, without naming him on the day the state went to polls. However, Singh today pledged to deepen wide-ranging relations with East and Southeast Asia, the assurance coming on the eve of the India-Asean summit and the fourth East Asia summit.

Singh’s statement came ahead of his departure for the summits in Thailand, where he will also hold talks with his Chinese counterpart Wen Jiabao tomorrow, sources said. This will be their first meeting since the strain in ties over the past month over issues surrounding the border dispute.

Speaking about the summits, Singh said he would discuss greater economic integration, people-to-people contacts, agriculture, science and technology and information and communications technology with the leaders of the 10-member Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean).

“India’s enhanced engagement with Asean is at the heart of our ‘Look East’ policy. The conclusion of the India-Asean trade-in-goods (free trade) agreement in August was a major first step in our objective of creating an India-Asean regional trade and investment area,” Singh said.

With the free-trade agreement clinched, India and Asean are now looking at inking a similar pact in the field of services and investment.

Trade with Asean has grown at a healthy rate and was around $48 billion in 2008, Singh said, adding he would inform the leaders in Thailand about the initiatives India had taken to qualitatively enhance its partnership.

The East Asia Summit brings together the Asean countries as well as Australia, New Zealand, India, China, Japan and South Korea. It will discuss Asia’s response to the global economic slowdown, food security, energy and climate change.
 

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Dalai Lama's Aurnachal visit cleared


Despite objections from China, New Delhi has cleared Tibetan spiritual leader Dalai Lama's week-long visit to Arunachal Pradesh, which will take him to the 300-year-old Tawang monastery among other places, from November 8.

Showing a copy of the Union external affairs ministry's letter to mediapersons, the chairperson of the state level reception committee, T G Rinpoche, said on Monday that the ministry had cleared the visit on October 19 and it was conveyed to Itanagar the next day.

However, Rinpoche explained, the files containing the ministry's clearance were not handed over to Arunachal Pradesh Chief Minister Dorjee Khandu because of the model code of conduct in force for the assembly elections.

Also, letters signed by Monica Jain, director of the external affairs ministry, directing for adequate security arrangement were sent to the chief secretaries of West Bengal , Assam, Arunachal Pradesh and Himachal Pradesh , he said.

Khandu had told mediapersons on Sunday that the state had not received the clearance of the external affairs ministry, though the deputy commissioner of Tawang had received a communication in this regard from Dharamsala.

Rinpoche welcomed all, including devotees, interested to attend the Dalai Lama's discourses at Tawang from November 9 to 11, at Dirang on November 12, Bomdial on November 13 and Itanagar on November 14.

The Dalai Lama will leave from Dharamshala for Japan on October 29 and arrive in Guwahati on November 8 via Kolkata. He will leave for Tawang via a helicopter.

The state level committee and local committees are making arrangements for issue of inner-line permits for people coming from elsewhere in India and restricted area permits for foreigners.

The spiritual leader will deliver his discourses from Yidga Choszin Tawang where he will inaugurate a modern hospital for which he had donated Rs 20 lakh. This will be his fifth visit to the town since he fled Tibet in 1959 to India via the Tawang route.

He had visited the place in 1983, 1997 and 2003. Overall, this will be his sixth visit to the state. During a visit in 2003, he had skipped Tawang and went to the western side, dominated by the Mahayana sect Buddhists, and again to the eastern part inhabited by people belonging to the Theravagda sect.

Meanwhile, Rinpoche, a close aide of the Dalai Lama from Tawang, described the clearnce of the spiritual leader's visit to Arunachal Pradesh as a 'right step.'

"We treat the Dalai Lama as the reincarnation of 'Avaloktaswara', the god of compassion, and even a glimpse of His Holiness purifies the soul which is the goal of every human being," he said.

''We have been holding mass prayers in the famed Gaden Namgyel Lhaste, commonly known as Tawang monastery, and in every household in the entire Mon region comprising three districts in western Arunachal since last one year for the clearance," Rinpoche, a monk turned politician, said.

Asked why China is objecting to the Dalai Lama's visit to Tawang and other parts of Arunachal, Rinpoche, a former minister and a firebrand Buddhist leader, said China was using it as a bargaining strategy to resolve border disputes.

Rinpoche had led monks of the Tawang monastery to take out a procession violating prohibitory orders to express solidarity with Tibetans across the border during last year's movement at Lhasa.

The Dalai Lama is not the issue at all and the Indian side should be very cautious while dealing with China on the border row as Chinese President Hu Jintao having worked as chairman of the Tibet Autonomus Region for over a decade has thorough knowledge of the Sino-India border, Rinpoche said.

The yellow and the cirmson-clad monk, who was seen doing the services with the Dalai Lama at a local gompa in Itanagar during his last visit in 2003, regretted that the Indian side, who are engaged in talks with China for solving the vexed border dispute, does not have any one having thorough knowledge of the border.

He said on one hand China refuses to honour the 1940 Shimla agreement between the British and Tibetan authorities on McMohan line and on the other claimed 90,000 square kilometres of territory that stretches beyond Arunachal Pradesh to the northern bank of the Brhamaputra in Assam which was once taken over by soldiers of the 33rd King of Tibet Songtsen Gompo.

"Once Mongolian soldiers had conquered China. But on the basis of that historical fact, can China be called a part of Mongolia now?" Rinpoche asked to drive home his point.
 

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Despite China's Ire? Is this some kind of a joke? Since when did India have to ask China's permission about anything that happens within its own territory?
 

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Its a perfect slap to the dragon for Hustling with us on J&k but i do wish that the GoI Rips the One china policy acceptance to smithereens and recognize Tibet and other Independent states in china
 

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Its a perfect slap to the dragon for Hustling with us on J&k but i do wish that the GoI Rips the One china policy acceptance to smithereens and recognize Tibet and other Independent states in china
it is unfortunate that cpc chose to take an aggressive policy against the most non violent nation on the face of the earth.
An Admirable stand by MMS
From here on it's likely to be hindi chini "bye bye" india can sidestep china in any and every area of business.
If the quality of leadership is as good as it is today , watch india take off .

I agree with the quoted post that india should re-think it's tibet policy and indeed , yes thanks for reminding us that even the one-china policy can be re-thought as well
 

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Oh gosh why is CHINA so insecure about HH Dalai Lama visit to AP! If they are really all this and that and the so call powerful nation then they should be more confident and give HH Dalai Lama more space and leave him alone. Uffffffffffffffffffffffff

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His Holiness the Dalai Lama must visit Arunachal and spread his message of Peace.

People are looking forward to his visit.

He is a great man.
 

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Oh gosh why is CHINA so insecure about HH Dalai Lama visit to AP!
the reason for the Grittiness is the fact that the PRC knows it self that it is an occupying power and is not the Ligiment government Of Tibet thats why their are scared
 
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Dalai Lama cannot visit his own country of China occupied Tibet and now he cannot roam freely in India these Chinese are reaching new heights in their arrogance.
 

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I really dont understand why anybody would be dissappointed by Dalai Lama's visit to spiritual monestry. Dalai Lama is widely respected in India as the spiritual and religious head of the Tibetian Buddhists and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Chinese are just irritated that they have no control over free Tibetans in India. China can keep dreaming about trying it's luck on Indian side, But we will make sure our Tibetan brother have freedom as promised by our Indian constitution. Chinese may like the communist boton up there behinds, we Indians will never bow to munchurians.
 

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China’s Dalai Lama Question-India In The Cleft



Paper no. 3487/04-Nov-2009

China’s Dalai Lama Question - India in The Cleft

By Bhaskar Roy

As the Dalai Lama prepares for the November 8 visit to Tawang, where the monastery has become one of the various arguments put for the by China for its claim over Arunachal Pradesh, the irate leaders in Beijing continue their strong opposition to the visit. India has made it clear recently from the highest level that Arunachal Pradesh is India’s sovereign territory and does not recognise its disputed nature as claimed by China. Prime Minister Dr. Manmohan Singh politely, but firmly, made it clear to Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao in Thailand (October 24) that the Dalai Lama was an “honoured guest” and was free to travel anywhere in India.

India’s position on the Dalai Lama has been consistent. The Dalai Lama is considered a spiritual leader and is not allowed to engage in politics. (read anti-China activities). The Tibetan refugees in India have to keep within Indian laws. In peacetime statistics, India hosts the largest number of refugees in the world. There are an estimated 20 million Bangladeshi illegal economic immigrants and there are people from many other countries in India. All have to abide by Indian laws.

The Dalai Lama has now publicly stated that his visit to Tawang was religious and not political. This is hardly going to satisfy China. The Chinese leadership has equated the entire embodiment of the 14th Dalai Lama with sovereignty and territorial integrity.

China’s late paramount leader Deng Xiaoping had a sharp vision for the future of the country. He was persecuted by Mao Zedong, expelled three times from the Communist Party, and rehabilitated each time by Mao because each time he was required to retrieve the country from the chaos created by Mao himself. Deng was the father of China’s reform and opening up policy, and “socialism with Chinese characteristics”. He put full integration with Hong Kong at another 50 years, and with Taiwan a hundred years if needed, and the “one country, two systems” for Hong Kong and Macao for the short term. In his vision for the long term future how ideology and politics would evolve was not known. The underlying message was communist China could change to a capitalist China – though capitalism could be defined in different ways. Redefining capitalism has already started.

It was Deng Xiaoping who told the Dalai Lama’s delegation in 1982, that anything on Tibet’s future could be discussed except independence. Interpreted, since the Chinese do not exactly spell out in words, the offer was to discuss the extent of Tibetan autonomy within overall China’s sovereignty. This gave wide configurations to the Dalai Lama’s set up to explore, and they did, studying different existing examples around the world.

In hindsight, and without access to any other information, it can only be concluded that Deng Xiaoping hoped for a closure of the Tibet issue between China, and the Dalai Lama and his supporters across the world.

The Dalai Lama had already opted for a non-violent path, and for real autonomy, not independence. He made this exposition first to the US Senate in 1987, and in his Strasbourg declaration in 1988.

All indications from Deng Xiaoping’s observation suggest he was aware that in convoluted claim of China’s historical sovereignty over Tibet was legally not tenable, and hence enveloping the 14th Dalai Lama and Tibet on a template of somewhat extended autonomy would fundamentally bring this important buffer state with India, into China’s fold. Deng Xiaoping was no liberal. He was practical and realistic. Tibet, he felt, would be a festering sore otherwise.

At the same time Deng would not allow pro-independence movements by Tibetans in Tibet. He sent his chosen leader of the fourth generation leader of the People’s Republic of China (PRC), now President Hu Jintao, as Tibet Autonomous Regions (TAR) Party Secretary to ensure that pro-independence sentiments did not get an upper hand. Hu Jintao rose to this task, crushing the demonstrations by Tibetan monks in Lhasa in 1987-88. Greater autonomy for Tibet was Deng Xiaoping’s settlement formula.

Paramount leaders Deng Xiaoping’s strategy on Tibet and many other areas do not obtain any longer. As he started losing grip because of old age, things began to change. After his death, an overhaul of Chinese policies have become noticeable. Deng Xiaoping was no peacenik. But he was a pragmatist with foresight, and actually aware how global politics was moving. His “one, country, two systems” formula for Hong Kong, Macao, and Taiwan (with much more autonomy for Taiwan than the other two).

Taiwan is a different issue. It is virtually independent and its status is guaranteed by the USA. Even then, there have been recent movements towards a more stable relations between mainland China and Taiwan.

Deng Xiaoping formula on Tibet developed further could have worked for the following basic reactions. First Tibet, or Tibet Autonomous Region (TAR), a truncated map of the original Greater Tibet is within China, and land locked. The Dalai Lama and his advisers in the Kashag (the Dalai Lama’s Cabinet) and outside are not separatist militants or terrorists as Beijing paints them to be.

A land locked region, the Dalai Lama is fully aware and has spoken too, that Tibetans could greatly benefit from China’s development while remaining within overall Chinese sovereignty. Most importantly, the Dalai Lama is not anti-China, he is pro-Tibetan autonomy which will give his people the freedom preserve and keep alive their history, culture, religion, and manage their own development.

Unfortunately, China sees a ghost of separatism or “splittism” in every word the Dalai Lama utters. Their basic position still remains that there is a hidden plan of “independence” in the Dalai Lama’s offer of autonomy. The March 14, 2008 Lhasa riots further convinced the Chinese the Dalai Lama was behind it, something they themselves suspect is not true. The 2008 Beijing Olympics offered the two frustrated minorities, the Tibetans and the Muslim Uighurs of Xinjiang, an opportunity to protest and demonstrate for their rights.

The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) is faced with a serious dilemma on the Dalai Lama. This has not only to do with issues like sovereignty and territorial integrity, but also the legitimacy of the Communist Party itself.

Since the 1989 students demonstration in Beijing, a tiny but increasing audible civil society, backed by some retired veteran leaders, are asking questions and protesting the methods of the CCP. Freedom of expression is the core. Issues are also related to religious beliefs, and religions like Buddhism are becoming attractive to the people. Buddhism and meditation practice like the Falung Gong movement are becoming popular not only among sections of the people, but also among the security and military establishments. Therefore, the leadership feels any room to the Dalai Lama and Buddhism would be inviting threat.

The current Chinese leadership is debating whether to settle the Tibet issue during the 14th Dalai Lama’s life time, or keep him at bay with a hard line approach hoping that after his death the movement will fall into disarray. There is also a stream of opinion that the Dalai Lama is the best bet as he was holding back the more radical Tibetan elements. The recent example of sentencing four Tibetans to death for the Lhasa riots, two of whom were executed last week, suggests the hard line is the choice of the moment.

President and Party General Secretary Hu Jintao holds the policies on the Tibetans and Uighurs firmly in his hand. Following the July 05 Uighur riots in Urumqi this year, no firm decision on actions was taken by the leadership till Hu returned from a G-20 meeting in Germany, which he cut short.

China is using its economic clout to cut the western support to the Dalai Lama. They made French President Sarkozy eat humble pie. US President Barack Obama decided not to meet the Dalai Lama before his upcoming visit to China in mid-November. These are, however, political games.

The Dalai Lama figures very high for the CCP in the India context. The proximity of the Dalai Lama’s residency in Dharamsala to Tibet is perceived by Beijing not only a card in India’s hand. But even without India’s involvement on the Tibet question the holy leader’s halo shines over Tibet.

The Dalai Lama’s position on Tawang and the entire Arunachal Pradesh in territorial terms would challenge some of China’s basic premises on sovereignty over Tibet. Beijing’s vehement opposition to the Dalai Lama’s visit to Tawang (or Arunachal Pradesh as whole) came after he declared in 2007 the legality of the MacMahon Line.

The Chinese position is that the Chinese Ambassador in Lhasa only initialled and did not sign the agreement at the 1914 Shimla Agreement which drew the MacMahon Line demarcating the Southern border of Tibet. The question is what authority did the Chinese Ambassador have in the demarcation of the India-Tibet boundary.

China claims the Ambassador was a symbol of China’s sovereignty over Tibet. They are yet to clarify how an Ambassador represents sovereignty.

The Shimla Agreement had two parts. One was the demarcation of the India-Tibet border, and the other was to draw the Tibet-China border. The Ambassador had relevance to the latter agreement, but had no locus standi on the former.

The 14th Dalai Lama remains very important to endorse China’s claim on Arunachal Pradesh. Equally, his position accepting the legality of the MacMahon Line negates China’s claim on this strategic state of India.

China would not have so militantly opposed to the Dalai Lama’s Tawang visit if they did not see it in the larger perspective on the legality of their claim on Tibet.

China’s claim on Tibet is based on manipulating history to which most of the international community was in agreement over these years either explicitly or implicitly. But Beijing is actually aware that if the historical case is re-opened, the first thing that will come to light is that the title of “Dalai” was bestowed upon Gelugpa lineage of Tibetan Buddhists by the Mongol Khans, and not by the Chinese emperor. The Khans brought the Dalai Lamas to Mongolia to introduce the peaceful aspect of Buddhism to counter the paganism which was destroying the country with internecine wars. China, as it was then or as it is now, had no relevance to Tibet’s destiny.

The Chinese would be aware that in India, the Dalai Lama goes far beyond politics. He is intricately enmeshed in the psyche of the Indian people as a religious leader of their own. China appears to have convinced some Indian writers recently to suggest Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru committed the cardinal sin in hosting the 14th Dalai Lama and his followers in 1959 when they escaped from the Chinese army’s Tibet offensive. Therefore, it would be wise to expel him from India for the betterment of Indo-China relations, it is argued by some Indian Sinophiles. The same writers fall into deep coma where Chinese assistance to Indian insurgents and separatists are concerned.

Notwithstanding the foregoing, the Chinese authorities understand that pouring venom on the Dalai Lama is a frustrating effort. Nobody in the world believes this propaganda, and their acceptance inside China is losing purchase.

The bottom line that emerges is that the 14th Dalai Lama remains the center-point on the Tibet question. The Chinese have two options. Either settle the issue during the life time of the 14th Dalai Lama and not interfere with the selection of his reincarnation. Or face the whole question after his demise, something which is unpredictable but could be worse.

China is riding on its economic power. But this power is dependent on its export industry much of which is controlled by foreign interests. This command is not permanent and the balance can change when China’s cheap labour market is milked dry.

Therefore, the future of China’s stable contours significantly depends on how they work out with Tenzing Gyatso @Kundun, the 14th Dalai Lama.

(The author is an eminent China analyst with many years of experience of study on the developments in China. He can be reached at [email protected])
 

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India restricts coverage of Dalai Lama's visit - Yahoo! News

NEW DELHI – The Indian government refused Thursday to allow foreign journalists to cover the Dalai Lama's visit to a northeastern state at the heart of a long-running border dispute with China.
Permits allowing foreign correspondents to travel to Arunachal Pradesh state were not given, and the government revoked passes previously provided to four of them, including two Associated Press journalists.
Foreigners require special government permission to visit the mountainous state.
"We are incredibly surprised and disappointed to learn that reporters' visas to Arunachal Pradesh have been canceled ahead of the Dalai Lama's visit," said Heather Timmons, president of the New Delhi-based Foreign Correspondents' Club.
China has strongly opposed the Tibetan spiritual leader's visit to a Buddhist monastery in the Arunachal Pradesh town of Tawang beginning Sunday.
Although relations between India and China have improved in recent years, tensions can flare because of sharpening economic rivalries, lingering bitterness over their shared border, and unrest in Tibet — the Chinese-controlled Himalayan region on the Indian frontier.
Last week, the Dalai Lama said China was overpoliticizing his travels, adding his decisions on where to go were spiritual in nature, not political.
Beijing opposes most activities of the Dalai Lama, who lives in exile in India and whom it accuses of advocating independence from Chinese rule for his native Tibet.
The Indian foreign ministry spokesman was not available for comment.
 

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looks like chinese may have asked for it. they don't want the world to know what HH dalai lama says in his trip. PM manmohan singh and chinese premier wen jiabao had met in bangkok recently and said the talks were cordial!!
 

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looks like chinese may have asked for it. they don't want the world to know what HH dalai lama says in his trip. PM manmohan singh and chinese premier wen jiabao had met in bangkok recently and said the talks were cordial!!
So apart from not granting access to the media, and hauling and beating Tibetan protestors, what more proof does one need that India stands firmly in the belief that Tibet is a part of China and doesn't want to offend China on the matter?
 

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It's stupid. India is been projected as a week nation. One talk and policy on Dalai Lama changed suddenly. I remember, foreign ministry asking China to stop its infrastructure projects in POK. To my knowledge and all indication they didn't even took note of it. We are having very stupid government in center.
 

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It's stupid. India is been projected as a week nation. One talk and policy on Dalai Lama changed suddenly. I remember, foreign ministry asking China to stop its infrastructure projects in POK. To my knowledge and all indication they didn't even took note of it. We are having very stupid government in center.
India's stance on the Dalai Lama and Tibet has never changed. It has always acknowledged Chinese soverignty over Tibet, and has always been aggressive in keeping Tibetans in India from making a ruckus. The talk between the two leaders changed nothing, but instead maintained the status quo.
 
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The Indian government does not represent the popular Indian view, most Indians do not agree with the government and support the Tibetans fully.
 

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The Indian government does not represent the popular Indian view, most Indians do not agree with the government and support the Tibetans fully.
And you have some sort of poll demonstrating this? Solid evidence?
 

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So apart from granting access to the media, and hauling and beating Tibetan protestors, what more proof does one need that India stands firmly in the belief that Tibet is a part of China and doesn't want to offend China on the matter?
what has it got to do with tibet??
india recognises tibet already as autonomous region in china.
but if the news you posted is correct then it's wrong on the part of india to do that. HH dalai lama was travelling within india.
anyway i am willing to wait if that turns out correct.
 

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