I have not reported the sarcasm, Iv reported you calling my views biased twice, because as it has happened earlier, I know very well if I point out the causes for you thinking why my views are biased, you ll waste no time in calling me Anti-Moslem."Reported" -->MOD- PHRASE HAS BEEN EDITED IN ORIGINAL POST
I would advice everyone to refrain from any form of Sarcasm in such a Public Forum, as it can go out of hand. Sorry If I had broken that rule Myself in my reply.
You cant wipe out the Knowledge gained. Mossad used to sent Falcons/birds with sensors etc to spy on the facilities I have heard. But they were mostly caught. Dont know how true this is!! Recently some spies were caught in Iran! again dont know if they were Spies or someone with whom the Mullahs had an axe to gring with! Covert Operation is hard, since Irans nuke sites spread far and wide I feel.What is the possibility of mounting a massive intelligence operation to sabotage the Iranian nuke program? The Mossad is a very efficient intelligence agency.
If Israel could slip the Iranians plans for nuke warheads that are absolutely correct in every regards except for one hidden flaw that will make them fizzel and Iran adopted it as their warhead design if they ever built a bomb that would be a coup.What is the possibility of mounting a massive intelligence operation to sabotage the Iranian nuke program? The Mossad is a very efficient intelligence agency.
How about GBU 39 "Small Diameter" or maybe AGM-86B, Block 1's , they got heavy conventional warheads and rocket assisted boosters specifically for optimal bunker busting and deep earth penetration.Accuracy man not be a major issue but the destruction should be contained underground as much as possible, if the explosion is too "messy" it may cause radioactive fallout over that whole area and into neighboring countries.
.What about Also the Issue of knowing which facility to bomb?? Iran has 4(main) facilities where nuclear activity is taking place, what if the processed material is transferred before the attack? Intelligence would have to be perfect, and also attack on one facility may have the other facilities picking up where they left of so will all 4 facilities be attacked that would be a much tougher operation and chance of success would be slim
Sir a bunker buster may not be 100% accurate either, they have to maximise on all their options, ideally a bomber campaign would be perfect but Israel will have a single shot strike, not the luxury of a prolonged bombing campaign.(off topic) As far as cruise missile accuracy goes an unexploded of course TOMAHAWK landed near pakistan/afghan border where pakistanis picked it up and sent it to china to be reverse engineered and create BABUR so cruise missile accuracy may not be 100%.
Sir a cruise missile is not an optimal choice as an earth penetrator but could they not be easily used to target those Iranian nuclear facilities that are in above ground structures, along with performing a defense suppression role ?Penetrating and destroying everything below would be the main goal and cruise missiles are not suited for that task.
Pintu,With respect to all the members here , I am to say that I personally feel that no war would take place between Iran and Israel in near future. However, I believe that Iran is not Iraq and are with active pursuance Air Defence Missile to safe guard its interest and also keeping the view that any preemptive strike on its N-facilities should be thwarted at any cost, and same way building stock piles of Missiles and again I am not equating with Israel's and Iran's missile technology for Offence and Defence, but what I am feeling that the interest of the regional powers (China, India and Russia ) works in both the countries and should they come out before that happens.
Regards
True about the current US admin, such an action is in fact contrary to their own interests. IIRC the Carter Doctrine included plans up to and including the use of nuclear weapons to protect the Persian Gulf from the Soviets. Right now the US is still dependent on imported oil, but somehow isn't worried about the catastrophic effect a nuclear armed Iran will have on the strategic alignment of the oil producing states But Iran has managed to frame its nuclear ambitions in terms of mass slaughter of Israelis, and thus the world has gone wobbly with even-handedness and is too stupid to see the threat to its own energy supply.Israel will only launch a strike on Iran's reactors with US approval. Without the US to watch their back, they'd be hounded by the international community diplomatically, and by Iran and its allies militarily. With Obama at the helm, the US would never agree to support any such actions by Israel, so this whole scenario is quite implausible.
IMHO the military option wont be negated, it ll only serve to broaden the timeframe for the window of attack if needed as there is always the possibility of the flaw being identified and addressedWhat is the possibility of mounting a massive intelligence operation to sabotage the Iranian nuke program? The Mossad is a very efficient intelligence agency.
Prophets of doom.Israel acts as necessary for its own defense, and this won't change. The primary threat to Israel is of a regional crisis that spirals out of control. Once Iran has nukes, Iran's allies (Hezbollah, Hamas, or even Syria) will feel emboldened and may even intentionally attempt to trigger a nuclear war, they aren't the sanest of fellows. I don't believe deterrence against Iran will necessarily be useful in restraining Hezbollah or Hamas. But if Israel is not confident that the crazy folks in Tehran are deterred, this gives Israel an incentive to launch a pre-emptive nuclear attack on Iran.
Very passive, is that why the harbingers of peace want to wipe out Israel then?Prophets of doom.
Iran is no Iraq that Israel can get away by bombing it's nuke facilities. Iran is not an aggressive state.
:coffee_spray:It has never gone to war in the middle east.
With suicide bombers?If Israel attacks Iran though, it will give the Ayatollahs the perfect reason to "wipe out the Zionist regime".
They are doing the best they can, for several years now.Iran would massively increase its support of Hamas and Hezbollah
I thought you said they never fought a war in the Middle Eastwhile launching a war on its own against Israel. And Iran is not one of those Arab countries that would get beat easily by Israel. They fought an 8 year war against Saddam Hussein whose army was being supplied with American weaponry and held their own, while losing almost 1 million people.
Not at the moment, but ultimately they will, they have no other option.The Israelis are aware of these things, and unless the US backs them with political and military support (which they won't), they won't risk going to war over Iran's nuclear program.
So Ajad doesn't know how to be diplomatic. I believe that actions speak louder than words. Israel has actually attacked its neighbours and started a war, Iran hasn'tVery passive, is that why the harbingers of peace want to wipe out Israel then?
Yes they do. Give the Palestinians their state as recommended in the UN resolutions.Not at the moment, but ultimately they will, they have no other option.
Ajad denies the holocaust ever happened. He is not undiplomatic, he is quite frankly, a loonie.Auberon,
So Ajad doesn't know how to be diplomatic.
What other option did Israel have? How does it affect Israel's operational effectiveness?I believe that actions speak louder than words. Israel has actually attacked its neighbours and started a war, Iran hasn't
Iranian and ME history are full of wars! The Persian empire wasn't established by diplomacy.Maybe I should have re-phrased the sentence. Iran has never "started" a war in the ME. If you have information to the contrary, please provide it here.
Anyone who expects Ayotallah to "Wipe Out The Zionist regime" is living in fantasy land.Secondly, anyone who expects Israel to go to war with Iran and easily win IMO displays the utmost naivete.
Pallies don't want their state, they want to finish Israel. They hate Israelis more than they love their kids.Yes they do. Give the Palestinians their state as recommended in the UN resolutions.