Helicopters

StealthSniper

Senior Member
Joined
Sep 3, 2009
Messages
1,111
Likes
60
no yaar first we need expertise, then go for indigenous projects,
GOI realised its mistakes and started JV with foreign partners like
LCA- FGFA with Russia.
Arjun- Future tank with Russia
Akash- Barak-II with Israel like these so many JV's
first may be sucessfull JV project is Brahmos , so India got experience in Cruise Missiles so started Indigenous Nirbhay Cruise missile program so this will defiantly will be a hit, so that we can bank on these missile.
in similar way we first need experience and capability.
this was also a Mega Bumper Hit in our own Indigenous Space program's too.

Well that makes sense I guess. The Bhramos is a good example that Russia and India did and if you are right about us making our own missile from learning from the Bhramos missile then I guess joint venture is good. As long as it doesn't stop our own development but increases it.
 

Atul

Founding Member
Regular Member
Joined
Feb 24, 2009
Messages
514
Likes
9


The Airborne Forces Experimental Establishment in Manchester, UK began work in 1940 on attaching rotor blades to a jeep. Nicknamed the ‘Rotabuggy’, initial tests involved dropping the jeep from heights of a few meters while it was filled with concrete to demonstrate it could take the impact without damage.

The jeep was then fitted with additional equipment including the rotor blades, a tail fairing with twin rudderless fins, a rotor control next to the steering wheel and glider navigational instruments. In 1943, the first test flight was conducted when the Rotabuggy was toed behind a Bentley and managed to glide at speeds of up to 65 mph.

The initial flights had limited success as handling proved difficult but after some modifications, the flying qualities of the vehicle were officially described as “highly satisfactory”. However the project became deemed unnecessary with the development of Horsa II and Hamilcar which were gliders equipped to carry vehicles.
 

AJSINGH

Senior Member
Joined
Aug 28, 2009
Messages
1,237
Likes
77
The Ah-64D Apache is simply the best combat helo/gunship ever built. But at $25 Million a piece, they are expensive as hell.

As for the rest of them excluding the HAL LCH, they are all near about equal. Cannot comment on something that does not exist.

The Ka-52 is a good bird with high power, speed and maneuverability but its
effectiveness is reduced by lack of good weapons systems.

BTW, does anyone have any news regarding the weight issues with the LCH?
The Mi-28 although sharing same configuration of the ah-64, its much more effective. Its more powerful, climbs better, accelerates much faster (especially with its new 2400shp engines) and is much more agile. Mi-28 mechanically is far supirior to the ah-64. The Ah-64 is less agile then a westland lynx (i know this because from Farnborough airshow 2008), its not the most agile helicopter of its day, its not that much more nimble than a mi-24.

Mi-28 is also far better armoured and more survivable than ah-64D. It has duplication of the main mechanical components and hydraulics as well as advanced armour around vital areas such as cockpit, engine nacelle and rotor blades.

Mi-28 has far better fire-power, the 2a42 30mm weopon is a BIG and HEAVY fast firing cannon borrowed from the bmp-2 IFV, its far more accurate , faster muzzle velocity (hence more accurate and better penetration) than the Chain gun on the Ah-64. It also can be equiped with at-16s (new varients) which are faster, more accurate and is more immune to jamming than the Hellfire missiles. Although the hellfires work better at night thanks to its radar guidance.

Iam not a biased person, i would poke if someone said n011m bars radar is better than apg-77, or a Russian UAV, is better than US or israeli ones, or GLONAS is better than GPS, or AKULA II better than sea wolf. On the other hand i would simply laugh if someone said HArpoon missiles are better than Kh-41, patriot better than s-300/s400, m270 better than bm-30 smerch.
 

AJSINGH

Senior Member
Joined
Aug 28, 2009
Messages
1,237
Likes
77
Russian-made MI-28N was showcased at the ongoing Aero India 2009. The Mi-28N is especially conducive for war situations. Also known as the "Night Hunter", the helicopter can operate round the clock. The design features of the aircraft and performance capabilities of the avionics package enable the helicopter to operate autonomously from unprepared pads away from base in the course of 15 days. The ammunition, communication equipment and controls, as well as fuel and lubricants implemented on the Mi-28N are compatible with those used in land forces.

The Mi-28N is equipped with the 5th generation aircraft electronic and instrument equipment. The equipment controls are integrated into the common tight controlling system, which is allowed to reduce their number to the reasonable minimum and to place in relatively small crew cockpits. Navigation of the helicopter is provided by means of the mapping information system based on the bank of digital data about the combat area terrain, high-accuracy satellite system and inertial navigation system. The information is provided in the form of 3D image of the helicopter location area.

Some of the helicopter weapons include a permanently installed NPPU-28 gun target with heavy 30-mm (1.18-in) 2A42 gun (ammunition supply of 250 cartridge shells) with selective diverse ammunition storage and feed system, 8-mm C-8 aircraft rockets within 20-barrel B8V20-A gun pods (2-4 pods) and 122-mm C-13 aircraft rockets within 5-barrel B-13L1 gun pods (2-4 pods), among others.
MI-28N Night Hunter showcased
 

Atul

Founding Member
Regular Member
Joined
Feb 24, 2009
Messages
514
Likes
9
Mi-28N is best suited for Indian needs, But of-course Indian forces will go with major modifications with integration of Israel & French parts / avionics going in... making it more deadly...

I just wish it joins the Indian Helicopter fleet.
 

Atul

Founding Member
Regular Member
Joined
Feb 24, 2009
Messages
514
Likes
9
The Indian Defence Ministry has issued a request for proposal (RfP) to buy 22 attack helicopters for about $25 million per platform, including weapons, to boost the Air Force's surveillance and combat capabilities.

The IAF has always been eyeing on a agile Combat Helicopter (the Mi-35 is too Bulky). Mi-28N fits in perfectly, both in terms of Performance & Commercials.
 

debasree

Regular Member
Joined
Feb 7, 2011
Messages
819
Likes
86
we think our navy really nead these kind of birds,they are hardy & able to carry huge payload,and ch-53 can land in water.which is greatly helpfull for quick raid on enemy teritory 20-25 units will be enough for us.
 
Last edited:

Latest Replies

Global Defence

New threads

Articles

Top