HAL Prachand - Light Combat Helicopter (LCH)

[Bleh]

Obviously, this won't be a fully-autonomous drone; more like a rotary version of the Predator drone. The drone pilot will still fly the unmanned gunship remotely.

Easily jammed & cut-off, can even be hijacked & taken over if Chinese tech is capable enough.
Swarm drone & loitering-munitions protect against these by being in high numbers. Large attack drones in low numbers aren't used in conventional wars for that reason.

Even decades later we're likely to have only unmanned-wingman type AI run helper drones.

 

[Tshering22]

Easily jammed & cut-off, can even be hijacked & taken over if Chinese tech is capable enough.
Swarm drone & loitering-munitions protect against these by being in high numbers. Large attack drones in low numbers aren't used in conventional wars for that reason.

Even decades later we're likely to have only unmanned-wingman type AI run helper drones.

Then the only option for India at this point is to expedite priority delivery of LCHs fast. 22 Apaches were delivered in a matter of 4-5 years. That was made possible because US has an assembly line & BD managers getting more and more sales from overseas.

LCH is one of the very few gunships that can operate in something as hostile as the Himalayas. This itself can be a good marketing tool. If China can sell untested weapons platforms in thousands, I don't see how we can't find customers.

 

[shade]

Then the only option for India at this point is to expedite priority delivery of LCHs fast. 22 Apaches were delivered in a matter of 4-5 years. That was made possible because US has an assembly line & BD managers getting more and more sales from overseas.

LCH is one of the very few gunships that can operate in something as hostile as the Himalayas. This itself can be a good marketing tool. If China can sell untested weapons platforms in thousands, I don't see how we can't find customers.

You need to do chai-paani for the decision makers in the customer country to make a sale/deal.
Here they aren't serious so they go to do sales/deals the "straight way", without gifts of phoren trips, cash and nice randiyas.

A half-assed "chalta hai" attitude results in none of our domestic platforms being "ready" and none of these platforms being exported.

 

[Dessert Storm]

You need to do chai-paani for the decision makers in the customer country to make a sale/deal.
Here they aren't serious so they go to do sales/deals the "straight way", without gifts of phoren trips, cash and nice randiyas.

A half-assed "chalta hai" attitude results in none of our domestic platforms being "ready" and none of these platforms being exported.

G2G is the way to go for selling weapons/platforms. Otherwise there is a high risk of corruption allegations sinking the endeavour.

 

[shade]

G2G is the way to go for selling weapons/platforms. Otherwise there is a high risk of corruption allegations sinking the endeavour.

Yes also if G2G is done we must give a small discount, Chinez platforms sell everywhere because they are cheap even compared to russian ones.

 

[Bleh]

22 Apaches were delivered in a matter of 4-5 years.

I agree, but this part made me chuckle nonetheless.

 

[Chinmoy]

HAL RUAV is our first step into rotary drones.

Actually No. It was DRDO who pioneered the rotary drones in India with Chetan.

After a decade delay, now a prototype is out for that.

 

[Dessert Storm]

Actually No. It was DRDO who pioneered the rotary drones in India with Chetan.

After a decade delay, now a prototype is out for that.

Chetan is a RUAV derivative of Chetak by IAI-HAL. Prototype was ready in end 2019.

 

[Akula]

Actually No. It was DRDO who pioneered the rotary drones in India with Chetan.

After a decade delay, now a prototype is out for that.

Chetan?

 

[Chinmoy]

Chetan?

Yeah.
Naval Chetak configured as UAV of 2 Ton class.

A joint DRDO-IAI venture of last decade.

 

[FalconSlayers]

Is the KAMOV-226T helicopter on order?

 

[shade]

Is the KAMOV-226T helicopter on order?

India, Russia to fast track Ka-226T chopper and AK203 rifle production; India to receive helicopter technology

India and Russia have agreed to resolve issues around the production of Ka-226T and AK203 projects and fast track it. Fast-tracking for the production of Ka 226T and AK203 was discussed during Indian defence minister visit to Moscow earlier this week. Sources told WION, "The parties have...

www.wionews.com

Armed forces raise alert over old Cheetah/Chetak helicopters | India News - Times of India

India News: The armed forces have once again sounded the alarm over their ageing and virtually obsolete Cheetah and Chetak helicopters, stressing that the `total

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

The last TOI article is from Sep 29 2020.
Contract not signed yet.
Fiddling over ToT and price continues

 

[FalconSlayers]

India, Russia to fast track Ka-226T chopper and AK203 rifle production; India to receive helicopter technology

India and Russia have agreed to resolve issues around the production of Ka-226T and AK203 projects and fast track it. Fast-tracking for the production of Ka 226T and AK203 was discussed during Indian defence minister visit to Moscow earlier this week. Sources told WION, "The parties have...

www.wionews.com

Armed forces raise alert over old Cheetah/Chetak helicopters | India News - Times of India

India News: The armed forces have once again sounded the alarm over their ageing and virtually obsolete Cheetah and Chetak helicopters, stressing that the `total

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

The last TOI article is from Sep 29 2020.
Contract not signed yet.
Fiddling over ToT and price continues

Wikipedia says order given for KA226T and LCH both. Lmao.

 

[Tshering22]

I agree, but this part made me chuckle nonetheless.

I don't see what is there to chuckle, given the fact that all orders + deliveries happened in under a decade.

 

[Killbot]

I don't see what is there to chuckle, given the fact that all orders + deliveries happened in under a decade.

That's what is there is to chuckle. No disrespect intended.

 

[AZTEC]

LCH airborne front view.

Credit: Praneeth Franklin

 

[Defcon 1]

Then the only option for India at this point is to expedite priority delivery of LCHs fast. 22 Apaches were delivered in a matter of 4-5 years. That was made possible because US has an assembly line & BD managers getting more and more sales from overseas.

LCH is one of the very few gunships that can operate in something as hostile as the Himalayas. This itself can be a good marketing tool. If China can sell untested weapons platforms in thousands, I don't see how we can't find customers.

Maybe because Equador returned the helis that they bought from us?
LCH maybe a great heli, but there is no point of ordering it till it gets an ATGM, considering the fact that there are already 70 Rudras inducted which are flying without weapons.

 

[AZTEC]

What will be the name of LCH after नामकरण (naming ceremony)?
Any guesses?

My guess: LCH will be named "Manyu".
Logic: "Manyu" and "Rudra" are related; both of them are Rig-vedic gods.

Nevertheless, take this with a pinch of salt.

 

[Bleh]

My guess: LCH will be named "Manyu".

 

[FalconSlayers]

What will be the name of LCH after नामकरण (naming ceremony)?
Any guesses?

My guess: LCH will be named "Manyu".
Logic: "Manyu" and "Rudra" are related; both of them are Rig-vedic gods.

Nevertheless, take this with a pinch of salt.

Maybe