HAL Light Utility Helicopter (LUH) and Light Observation Helicopter (LOH)

[abingdonboy]

 

[abingdonboy]

crux of the issue

 

[jai jaganath]

crux of the issue

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

Bruh, and people want the Capital Outlay to increase LoL, jo hai woh kharch nahi hota inse

 

[abingdonboy]

My patience has long since run out with these people. Incompetent or compromised makes no difference, their actions speak for themselves

when the blood is shed by the low ranks a few of these esteemed generals should be treated to some special justice of their own

imagine sitting on piles of cash whilst Indian projects are starved of funds just so you can create an artificial scarcity that will justify your emergency imports. These are the so-called nationalists

 

[thebakofbakchod]

My patience has long since run out with these people. Incompetent or compromised makes no difference, their actions speak for themselves

when the blood is shed by the low ranks a few of these esteemed generals should be treated to some special justice of their own

imagine sitting on piles of cash whilst Indian projects are starved of funds just so you can create an artificial scarcity that will justify your emergency imports. These are the so-called nationalists

Like i keep saying, nothing will change until top generals get death penalties or we get royally spanked in a war. Till then this circus will continue

 

[WarmongerLSK]

Spoiler: backup

 

[Corvus Splendens]

6 years since first flight, Army is still turning pages on the brochure

 

[WarmongerLSK]

6 years since first flight, Army is still turning pages on the brochure
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How many LUH are in ordered total?

 

[Corvus Splendens]

How many LUH are in ordered total?

11-12

 

[WolfPack86]

Indian army would purchase more LUH after improvements.

 

[Pythonlover]

This thing is so infuriating. Did they not know the capabilities of the helicopter for last 6 years? If they did, then why didn't they ask for improvement before. Now when the time is for orders, these *** ** ******* are dilly dallying. Same goes for LCH. After testing the helicopter, IA Chief said that first they will buy 5-6 helicopters to test and then order it. What the hell were you doing these years? These people will use flying coffins but will not order any indigenous platform. They killed Arjun project and they are going to kill artillery and helicopters too. ****** ****** go **** yourself.

First accept the initial product batch to kickstart manufacturing. Then improve the helicopter in subsequent batches.

 

[abingdonboy]

How many LUH are in ordered total?

0. No orders placed but they (HAL) are making 6+6 LSP using their own funds like with LCH

 

[abingdonboy]

6 years since first flight, Army is still turning pages on the brochure
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They’ll never order 110 in one go, maybe 40-50 in one go despite their requirement being >150. Keeping costs high and production capacity low, just regular Indian military BS, they are only good at buying from foreign brochures

 

[abingdonboy]

This thing is so infuriating. Did they not know the capabilities of the helicopter for last 6 years? If they did, then why didn't they ask for improvement before. Now when the time is for orders, these *** ** ******* are dilly dallying. Same goes for LCH. After testing the helicopter, IA Chief said that first they will buy 5-6 helicopters to test and then order it. What the hell were you doing these years? These people will use flying coffins but will not order any indigenous platform. They killed Arjun project and they are going to kill artillery and helicopters too. ****** ****** go **** yourself.

First accept the initial product batch to kickstart manufacturing. Then improve the helicopter in subsequent batches.

Tumkur can make 30 LUH/year in phase 1, 60/year in phase 2 if given enough orders. Total IA+IAF RSH+LUH requirements are ~400. Even at 60/year it’ll take 8 years of flat out production to get all the light helos they need, the way they have ordered ALH (30-40 unit batches at a time) has taken >20 years just to get ~370 units. Basically Chetaks/Cheetahs will still be flying well into the 2040s is my guess and these geniuses will spend the 2020s testing/pushing files around. The 100th airframe might be seen in the late 2030s

sometimes I wonder if the Indian armed forces purposely sabotage these things because they haven’t physically got the expertise to operationalise at such scale.

 

[Corvus Splendens]

They’ll never order 110 in one go, maybe 40-50 in one go despite their requirement being >150. Keeping costs high and production capacity low, just regular Indian military BS, they are only good at buying from foreign brochures

They wont give a big order because that will shut the door for imports. They keep ordering in peacemeal batches hoping to get a few imports in between orders.

 

[abingdonboy]

They wont give a big order because that will shut the door for imports. They keep ordering in peacemeal batches hoping to get a few imports in between orders.

‘Emergency requirement’

 

[AnantS]

I think its fine. ALH was also inducted similarly. Luh first tranche orders are low as they shall be tested out and any gremlins introduced during new production can be identified and ironed out. KA 223 is something both iaf and hal wants - but with current sanctions on Russia and curtailed defense budget- they don't have much choice other than to go ahead with LUH.

 

[johnj]

This thing is so infuriating. Did they not know the capabilities of the helicopter for last 6 years? If they did, then why didn't they ask for improvement before. Now when the time is for orders, these *** ** ******* are dilly dallying. Same goes for LCH. After testing the helicopter, IA Chief said that first they will buy 5-6 helicopters to test and then order it. What the hell were you doing these years? These people will use flying coffins but will not order any indigenous platform. They killed Arjun project and they are going to kill artillery and helicopters too. ****** ****** go **** yourself.

First accept the initial product batch to kickstart manufacturing. Then improve the helicopter in subsequent batches.

lol. 5~6 are the first initial batch.
India is not USA to buy 50~100 initial batch. IAF also buy 5~10 initial batch.
One major issue is luh use single engine means more gap b/w lsp & mass production.
Overall both IAF & IA buy around 200~250 luh.
You can't compare a unwanted[arjun] item with necessary item[luh]

 

[abingdonboy]

One major issue is luh use single engine means more gap b/w lsp & mass production.

what does this mean?