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The HELINA ATGM has been tested since 2011.. I don't understand what's the damn delay in induction.. Is it some other worldly technology ?.. atleast integrate it for deployment along LAC, where unlike Rajasthan, ambient heat is not a problem, .. Induct it even if it is 90 percent ready..
They are incresing the Helinas range to 400 kms...so that delhi se mara to seedha lahore main khada hua tank ud jayega..
 

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The HELINA ATGM has been tested since 2011.. I don't understand what's the damn delay in induction.. Is it some other worldly technology ?.. atleast integrate it for deployment along LAC, where unlike Rajasthan, ambient heat is not a problem, .. Induct it even if it is 90 percent ready..
We take 20 years in making simple ATGMs, lol.
 

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Well take away of discussion is this that we built one , but didn't implement one , any project on aam for lch and rudra ?
What we have built and what we didn't implement?

As for AAM, its only Mistral as for now.
 

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Helina developed but still to be inducted , we will induct it but question is when?
helina will be inducted this year or in 2020 amit sir ( defence decode wale ) ne eek photo tweet ki thi jisme konsa weapon kab induct hoga uske baare mai diya tha
 

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Helina developed but still to be inducted , we will induct it but question is when?
When it would satisfy all the needs.
Even in design phase it has undergone changes more then 3 times. So yes, it would take time for induction.
 

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Actually military attitude matters a lot.

The us Navy,army and airforce agreed for production of both f35 and lcs and ddg1000 and ford class before all the subsystems were tested,even made in some cases and finally they have decided to scrap the lcs program and some of the earlier models and isolated the ddgs and ford is still going teething problem despite seeming to only promise an equivalent capability of Nimitz at full capability.only f35 is only good and that after a lot of work and scandals.still the military in America is somewhat bullish on these systems till the end except for f35 and ford which they still hold up.

The general sense is that the military in America is a lot more eager to listen and believe the promises of the producer for even alien like future tech and give orders before hand before testing.in fact it is the Congress and the civil admin that seems to be reining the military spending down and not approving of run away costs with no promised capability(less 20 percent of the 100 percent promised in some cases).

Here we have some sections of the military not ordering medium to basic stuff that is already 100 to 90 percent ready and keep testing.even the change brought about recently is actually from the civilian side with the admin introducing negative import list and what not.so it is an improved attitude and not much of a sea change.only time will tell if there is permenant shift.

Coming to lch,all the subsystems including the atgm has been tested recently,why they are not ordering it and integrating the atgms along the way is anyone's guess.its not drdos fault that is for sure.these are not advanced alien tech ,just basic stuff for a first rate military,the attitude for procurement should change,don't need to go to current us military attitude,just be more faithful of basic stuff that Indeginous production and tech capabilities cannot f up .
 

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Yeah. Its so simple that only a handful of nations have been able to make any relevant 3rd gen ATGM.

Hell even Russkies didn't built one.
Russian Kornet is 3rd generation atgm..
Even Turks have their own UMTAS atgm..
 

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Where will you integrate it?

On other hand, you simply don't procure a weapon only because it has been developed. You have to first formulate a usage plan for it. Based on that a number gets decided and order is placed.
There are plenty of Chinese stone bunkers being built, and Chinese tanks deployed these days along ladakh.. ATGMs will come in handy...
 

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Russian Kornet is 3rd generation atgm..
Even Turks have their own UMTAS atgm..
Do research properly. It uses SACLOS (Semi Automatic Command to Line Of Sight) which means it is not a fire and forget missile. Basically a 2nd gen ATGM.
 

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There are plenty of Chinese stone bunkers being built, and Chinese tanks deployed these days along ladakh.. ATGMs will come in handy...
Spike has been taken for that same purpose to fill the void. Till now HELINA is not ready in full potential to be integrated for operational use. We might see some limited use with Mil-24. But it has to undergo few more tests to be inducted en-mass.
 

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