HAL Prachand - Light Combat Helicopter (LCH)

[south block]

Collaborate with france for engine it is a tried and tested partner.

Let's build our own engine or we will keep importing for foreseeable future.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Let's build our own engine or we will keep importing for foreseeable future.

We are building our own of 1200 kw power. Lat us look at the feasibility weather we can come up with within due time or not. if development a takes longer time thatn the projected time to induct the chopper, it is better to impor or collaborate with some good company to make it in India.

 

[south block]

We are building our own of 1200 kw power. Lat us look at the feasibility weather we can come up with within due time or not. if development a takes longer time thatn the projected time to induct the chopper, it is better to impor or collaborate with some good company to make it in India.

7 years is more than enough time ---- we need to have a breakthrough on our own if we want to be fully self sufficient in long run --- period --- same goes for jet engine --- can't keep importing for ever --- collaborations are usually screw driving & core technology being foreign nothing else.

 

[Craigs]

Logical step.

That 930 million USD deal for 6 AH-64E Apache really bugged me.

155 million USD for an attack helicopter,thats ridiculous and day light robbery.(That deal should be cancelled right away and relooked)

This also shows how indian aviation industry has matured.
10-15 years ago we had only 2 or 3 important aviation projects.
today we have
1. Tejas mk1a,mk2
2. TEDBF/ORCA
3. AMCA
4. RTA-70 and RTA-90 and SARAS
5. HAL LUH
6. HAL IMRH
7. DRDO AURA
8. DRDO Rustom.

This decade will solidify indian aviation industry.What we now need is a WORKING JET ENGINE.

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How many delivered? All these are different types of pension plans. That is all.

 

[Bleh]

I'm not comparing their capabilities. I'm asking whether we are in process or completed the development of the advanced tech that are there on Apache, using LCH as platform.
No matter it is smaller in size or limited in capabilities. What all advanced tech that we missing at the moment?

I understand both are different platform of different categories. .

Like with LCA, we are yet to develop our own Refueling probe, Ejection seat, Engine, etc.

Engine and the FCR are the two biggest hurdles. The rest is doable.

Thing is we don't necessarily have to make everything ourselves. Importing a bit here a bit there is alright as long as we hold IP for major subsystems.

Engine, transmission we can derive/downsize from the 12ton IMRH (now fast tracked). If they can manage that, then it is set for success.
LCH already has .50 armour protection, may get increased for upto 20-30mm.
FCR cum BMR may be derived from the longbow (just a hunch).
SANT, SAAW based glide bomb can be available in 5 years.

That leaves the structural redesigning.
Avionics and sensors may get replaced with indigeneous versions in LCH itself, one by one as they mature (we ain't great at it right now).

 

[Pulkit]

Thing is we don't necessarily have to make everything ourselves. Importing a bit here a bit there is alright as long as we hold IP for major subsystems.

Engine, transmission we can derive/downsize from the 12ton IMRH (now fast tracked). If they can manage that, then it is set for success.
LCH already has .50 armour protection, may get increased for upto 20-30mm.
FCR cum BMR may be derived from the longbow (just a hunch).
SANT, SAAW based glide bomb can be available in 5 years.

That leaves the structural redesigning.
Avionics and sensors may get replaced with indigeneous versions in LCH itself, one by one as they mature (we ain't great at it right now).

Just seeking additional information on "now fast tracked". Are they working on an engine for 10-12ton?

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Just seeking additional information on "now fast tracked". Are they working on an engine for 10-12ton?

Two engines......................................

 

[Bleh]

Just seeking additional information on "now fast tracked". Are they working on an engine for 10-12ton?

Got on BRF. A HAL source said that work on it has "picked up pace" recently after dillydallying (first flight originally scheduled in 2020) for years. Also this from Feb 28

 

[Chinmoy]

@abingdonboy @Chinmoy

Yoooooooooooo
My nigaaaaas
The game is on.

No need of celebration as of now. First they have to create MMRH. Based on that a 10 to 12 ton MCH would be built. MMRH is easily atleast more then a decade away. So no need to talk on MCH as of now. HAL should have thought about it by 2010 itself along with LCH. Then by 2025 we might have seen one flying around.

 

[fire starter]

lch in green camo........... but for whom air force or army???????? @abingdonboy

 

[Anikastha]

lch in green camo........... but for whom air force or army???????? @abingdonboy
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[fire starter]

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I think it would be black. btw do u know black rudra is for IAF or army

 

[Neeraj Mathur]

I think it would be black. btw do u know black rudra is for IAF or army

BLACK RUDRA is for Army

IAF uses Grey RUDRA

 

[Emperor Kalki]

lch in green camo........... but for whom air force or army???????? @abingdonboy
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Its not green...this image is from aero india 2017 display...got that from google search..

 

[Anikastha]

I think it would be black. btw do u know black rudra is for IAF or army

yeah i know black udra is for army.......but why would iaf select green color for lch???

 

[Emperor Kalki]

yeah i know black udra is for army.......but why would iaf select green color for lch???

What green colour? Its the image filters in the previous image that give a green look...

 

[WolfPack86]

HAL Light Combat Helicopter (#LCH) armed with MISTRAL ATAM Air-to-Air Guided Missile and a 20 mm M621 cannon on Nexter THL-20 turret.

 

[Aaj ka hero]

Israel's Elbit Systems gets $103 million electronic warfare contract By Reuters

Israel's Elbit Systems gets $103 million electronic warfare contract

m.investing.com

Oi, bhailog this Asian country is our country, according to me.

 

[BangaliBabu]

Israel's Elbit Systems gets $103 million electronic warfare contract By Reuters

Israel's Elbit Systems gets $103 million electronic warfare contract

m.investing.com

Oi, bhailog this Asian country is our country, according to me.

they are quoting official sources..... so even if it's known, they won't mention it. That's good reporting btw......

 

[uoftotaku]

Israel's Elbit Systems gets $103 million electronic warfare contract By Reuters

Israel's Elbit Systems gets $103 million electronic warfare contract

m.investing.com

Oi, bhailog this Asian country is our country, according to me.

This is for Singapore which is getting a new batch of 16 CH-47F (plus rebuild of existing 22 CH-47SD fleet to F standard) and 33 H225M for their military. All our existing IAF Chinooks and Apaches birds already have these same systems installed (can be seen in photos) and our system of procurement being as it is, our own media will leak / drop hints about contracts long before any vendor has a chance to publish such news (that too without mentioning customer).