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These folks are saying Biden administration increased defence and homeland security budgets by just 1.5%, but increased other line items like education by 16%. to be noted is that since schools were closed last year, schools have 160 billion $ from last year's budget still with them.
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This Budget Doesn’t Add Up: How Biden’s Spending Plan Misses the Mark for Both Defense and Education

 

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The blatant hypocrisy of people who call themselves “South Asia Experts”, in this case Christine fair.

In the opening comment she has a problem with narrative which defines balakot strike a success and F16 being shot down, apparently we are not supposed to give any weightage with what DG ISPR himself said.

but also according to her we are not supposed to take wikileaks & snowmen seriously because they are blatant anti-Americanism and a Russian op.
so no matter what happens benefit of doubt for her country, and India does not deserve to have the same benefit of doubt by its own citizens.

if this is not personal/ideological bias, then what is?

if we apply Christine fair’s logic to Chinese virus, world should never call COVID as bio weapon unless absolutely proven, since that evidence will never come while the impact of Chinese virus has been same as that of a bio weapon.

and then the authors, why do they even go to “foreign experts” for comments, finish the book discussions within India first.

it is well established now that “foreign expert” are not gonna give any due credit to any India related book, unless it is atrocity literature or poverty porn.

 
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People like this idiot Tanvi Madan will never clarify misinformation with the truth, These folks are neither loyal to U.S nor to India, their loyalty is to their political ideology.

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West is the Vatican of Democracy
West is the Mecca of Secularism
West is the Jerusalem of Freedom of Expression
West is the Varanasi of Freedom of Speech.

Till the country defines itself with these imported memes( and especially these terms ) it gets trapped in the "no true scotsman"/ "not democratic/free/secular enough" game of being compared about these (((values))) with the West which is supposedly the gold standard.
And since media/academic discourse is controlled by basically brown sepoys, this drama will continue.

In any case Biden's America is not an "ally" by any means, they can continue with this bullshit about not true democrazy and all.
If we ever face the Chings in the war, it will be only ourselves.
 

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Our think tanks should slander democracy as well and advocate for a different system that can be similar to our current system. Call that system anything else other than 'democracy', use any word which the west doesn't. We have to come out of the shadow of the hegemonic narratives of the west.

Until and unless we define our government style but rather continue to worship 'democracy', the west will continue to control us via these 'report cards' of 'democracy, 'secularism', 'rights' and 'freedom'.
 

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Looks like all of quad is afraid of China, nobody wants to poke CCP.
Perhaps this means, US is still not on board. All tamasha, nothing concrete.
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India should try and develop a new alternative to the existing academic branch of International Relations(IR), using Vedic way of thinking.

current global expertise on IR has become arbitrary and ideological which is giving low success rate of prediction of upcoming IR events.

Vedic maths has given us zero ,decimals, astronomy etc etc much before any other civilisations could grasp these concepts, maybe a new way of looking at IR can be found.

emphasis should be on keeping ideological bias away from IR analysis, mathematics should be able to help in this.

Numbers don’t have feelings.
 

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India should try and develop a new alternative to the existing academic branch of International Relations(IR), using Vedic way of thinking.

current global expertise on IR has become arbitrary and ideological which is giving low success rate of prediction of upcoming IR events.

Vedic maths has given us zero ,decimals, astronomy etc etc much before any other civilisations could grasp these concepts, maybe a new way of looking at IR can be found.

emphasis should be on keeping ideological bias away from IR analysis, mathematics should be able to help in this.

Numbers don’t have feelings.
Data driven analysis exists. Math models and stuff are used in many policy making circles. It's just that we don't have access to them and stuck with art background professionals.

For example IMF and WB use data driven models to predict GDP growth ..etc. Any organisation worth their salt mostly rely on data driven methods.
 

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Data driven analysis exists. Math models and stuff are used in many policy making circles. It's just that we don't have access to them and stuck with art background professionals.

For example IMF and WB use data driven models to predict GDP growth ..etc. Any organisation worth their salt mostly rely on data driven methods.
yes, and I saying mathematical models should be explored for IR as well.

preferably with Vedic maths.
 

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yes, and I saying mathematical models should be explored for IR as well.

preferably with Vedic maths.
Which trends you want to predict using math models? IR seems to be very broad topic. Is it about future relations between two countries?
 

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Which trends you want to predict using math models? IR seems to be very broad topic. Is it about future relations between two countries?
-correlation between economic distress and aggressive military posture of a country.

-correlation between trade & potential of hostility between two countries.

-correction between failure of local governance and political instability.

-correlation between local news paper headlines and orgin country/organisation of that particular PR campaign.

-correlation between social media buzz words and local law & order problems.

I am sure more gyani log, will be able to figure out more applications.
 

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saw bits and pieces of this “Interview” yesterday, the moment kurt Campbell started praising Kevin Rudd stopped watching. More clarity now that Biden policy on China is a gonna be same as Obama’s, they are gonna give a free pass to CCP with some public posturing. Kevin Rudd is the one who pulled australia out of Quad last time, and Asia society is his think tank which focuses on connecting China to the west.

 

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Going by this discussion If we assume that both British side and Indian side are representing their respective foreign office views, Massive difference of expectations from future India-UK relationship.

Brits want us to be the same Human Resource supplier as before, where as ram Madhav is saying we should co-operate for leadership roles at world stage on various issues like climate change, social media regulation, economy etc etc .

Ram Madhav has introduced a new concept(assuming it’s new), Techno-Democracies & Techno-Autocracies. I am assuming both China and Twitter company will fit into this Techno Autocracy definition.

A holes brits haven’t changed a bit.

 
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Fcukers dislike Multipolar world. Didn't have the time to go through the entire video yet. Posting here for future reference. Think Tank is Nepal Institute for International Cooperation and Engagement (NIICE).
 

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The blatant hypocrisy of people who call themselves “South Asia Experts”, in this case Christine fair.

In the opening comment she has a problem with narrative which defines balakot strike a success and F16 being shot down, apparently we are not supposed to give any weightage with what DG ISPR himself said.

but also according to her we are not supposed to take wikileaks & snowmen seriously because they are blatant anti-Americanism and a Russian op.
so no matter what happens benefit of doubt for her country, and India does not deserve to have the same benefit of doubt by its own citizens.

if this is not personal/ideological bias, then what is?

if we apply Christine fair’s logic to Chinese virus, world should never call COVID as bio weapon unless absolutely proven, since that evidence will never come while the impact of Chinese virus has been same as that of a bio weapon.

and then the authors, why do they even go to “foreign experts” for comments, finish the book discussions within India first.

it is well established now that “foreign expert” are not gonna give any due credit to any India related book, unless it is atrocity literature or poverty porn.

Do follow Arvind Virmani (former CEA) on Twitter. You will love the way he calls out the ignorance of these so called experts.
 

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Do follow Arvind Virmani (former CEA) on Twitter. You will love the way he calls out the ignorance of these so called experts.
We need to consider an aspect of their existence. they are not stupid, they know exactly what they are doing. they were hired by their employers the think tanks to do exactly what they are doing now, almost all think tanks in washington dc dealing in foreign policy are funded by US Government. So in essence, US Government is paying them to utter this nonsense. It's their job to be His master's voice and research for leverages that US Gov can use in either for their negotiations with GoI or excuses to not do things GoI is asking for.

So what does it mean to us, anything US Government wants to smear us with, will come thru these coconuts. so if keep an eye on these folks, we get an indication of what ever new drama Indiaphobic lobby groups in washington DC are cooking up.
 

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We need to consider an aspect of their existence. they are not stupid, they know exactly what they are doing. they were hired by their employers the think tanks to do exactly what they are doing now, almost all think tanks in washington dc dealing in foreign policy are funded by US Government. So in essence, US Government is paying them to utter this nonsense. It's their job to be His master's voice and research for leverages that US Gov can use in either for their negotiations with GoI or excuses to not do things GoI is asking for.

So what does it mean to us, anything US Government wants to smear us with, will come thru these coconuts. so if keep an eye on these folks, we get an indication of what ever new drama Indiaphobic lobby groups in washington DC are cooking up.
Mostly due to tariff and charges of currency manipulation. Besides, the issue of taxing Murican companies in India. Also the fact that GOI is spanking a lot of Murican companies really hard in the ass - Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, GM you name it. These are the repercussions. They are not Indiaphobic or anything. If the bucks are cleared they will be more than happy to relocate significant portion of various supply chains from Coronaland. (already happening with PLI scheme in place)

We should never become too much protectionist. The present tariff policy is okayish. With increased industrial bases a few years from now on we should start reducing it. And yes, tax the f*ck out of those companies. EU, Aus, UK will follow suit: we won't be isolated. And yes, social media will be regulated. Those Murican companies might cry a river but cannot reject the appeal of the only non-saturated major economy with years of high growth left. Even here we will find companions; many nations (Aus, EU etc) are drafting laws to regulate the tech giants.

The fact that Amnesty and a bunch of others were not granted relaxations from FCRA norms did not go down too well with them. However if left unchecked the impacts will be even more devastating. Remember Kudanukulam and Jaitapur?

Do you know that Murica once delayed one IMF bailout of BD on grounds of rising intolerance and authoritarianism? :bplease:

Do follow the twitter handle I mentioned. He was at the IMF. Posts a lot of curious stories regularly.
 

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Mostly due to tariff and charges of currency manipulation. Besides, the issue of taxing Murican companies in India. Also the fact that GOI is spanking a lot of Murican companies really hard in the ass - Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, GM you name it. These are the repercussions. They are not Indiaphobic or anything. If the bucks are cleared they will be more than happy to relocate significant portion of various supply chains from Coronaland. (already happening with PLI scheme in place)

We should never become too much protectionist. The present tariff policy is okayish. With increased industrial bases a few years from now on we should start reducing it. And yes, tax the f*ck out of those companies. EU, Aus, UK will follow suit: we won't be isolated. And yes, social media will be regulated. Those Murican companies might cry a river but cannot reject the appeal of the only non-saturated major economy with years of high growth left. Even here we will find companions; many nations (Aus, EU etc) are drafting laws to regulate the tech giants.

The fact that Amnesty and a bunch of others were not granted relaxations from FCRA norms did not go down too well with them. However if left unchecked the impacts will be even more devastating. Remember Kudanukulam and Jaitapur?

Do you know that Murica once delayed one IMF bailout of BD on grounds of rising intolerance and authoritarianism? :bplease:

Do follow the twitter handle I mentioned. He was at the IMF. Posts a lot of curious stories regularly.
If Modi govt policy was an issue, why would they start their propaganda from 2nd month of modi swearing in before any policy announcements were even made? opeds started coming in as soon as BJP won in 2014, folks like Vipin Narang, milind vaishnav, dhume started their propaganda almost immediately after election results were declared.

Their narrative has nothing to do with Govt policy. There is a reason this thread was started, the pattern was so obvious that all their nonsense had to be listed in one place.
 

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