Gangster Vikas Dubey killed in encounter

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I keep following your post closely you always try to think there is Utopian society exist were everything goes by the rule book

have you heard this sentence "Dead man tell no tales"

If Vikas had so many links with politicians and so many back end stories why would he not tell them when he is alive and rather keep them inside to take it to his grave . We know how powerful Media is against BJP aren't they able to dig anything about this guy till last friday when killed 8 policeman in encounter . Suddenly presstitutes running like headless chicken trying to find connections of him and BJP and BJP wanted to silence him so that they save their ass .

Well that's not how things work , If BJP realised he know so many dirty secrets they wouldn't have kept him alive this long . Because they know their dirty tales will surely come out one day as long as he is alive .

So all this is plain bullshit presstitutes spinn off like he had connections with BJP so they killed him

What connections 50+ criminals who got killed under this BJP govt had ?


My issue is: why even bother with fake encounter, he was more valuable alive rather than dead.
His encounter is a total sham if u look into the details.
-Packed up in Scorpio during arrest and the vehicle that was overturned was XUV 500.
-Media and traffic blocked before ecnounter.
-He was to be lifted in a chartered plane but later escorted in a car.
-And what are the chances of a car over turning in a rain when carrying a wanted criminal.

I draw the following conclusion.

1) Yogi BJP Government authorised fake encounter to cover up whatever Vijay Dubey could spit out.

2) Few remnants of SP or BSP loyalists in the police organised to kill Dubey to Cover up for Samajwadi or Bahujan party Involvement.

3) The whole police cabal Organised the encounters to save their ass.

4) BJP, SP, BSP all agreed to terminate this nigga to cover up his political Connection for good.

5) I am completely wrong and what appears is true.
 
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@Bhumihar Snake coupta has done a good video . Shows how deep rooted religion, caste mafia nexus in UP . Yogi has taken a risk killing someone from a caste which is strong supporters of BJP . Is that worth a risk when elections are just 18 months away ? Especially when janeu dhari kaul's gandhi's sister trying to position herself for next UP leader for all upper caste .

 

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who is here from UP

In strategic matters, Coupta ji used to support Government ardently to get whole spectrum of viewership but when it comes to political matters he shows his true colors.

U.P is a large state with different regional identities. Be it Jat-Gujjar dominated Western belt to OBC/SC dominated poorvanchal, they are bound by only one common feature which is Hindi as their first language (Not talking about dialects). You may split U.P in Western, Central UP (Avadh region), Bundelkhand (region near Jhansi), & Poorvanchal as they have certain distinctive features in their culture and dialects. However, this segregation might impact the development & growth of Poorvanchal, BundelKhand, & Avadh region. Because as of now, the main driver of UP economy and GDP is Western region & Noida-Gaziabad NCR. There are people in Jat belt who actively promote this idea of segregation because they would then be keeping significant state revenues in their own kitty.

It's an irony of Indian Democracy where the specific regions generating higher revenue doesn't get its proportional share for its development (Mumbai being classic example); rather that revenue is funneled to development and socio-economic schemes for up-liftment of back-ward regions of the same state. And as we know well, these distribution of revenue is where corrupt Babus/politicians fleece to fill their pockets. So, this segregation would definitely impact the growth of remaining regions of UP. It could still be debated that whether carving smaller states could improve administration if it is not backed-up with healthy state revenues? Kind of a vicious circle !!

For UP and its badlands, I could blame it squarely to Mulayam & Co. because earlier in their reigns they actively promoted Gunda culture to break the hegemony of Upper-caste in the politico-administration system of UP. Once, these Bahubalis coming from M-Y started exerting their influence on others, it resulted into proportionate response from other communities from where Bahubalis like Raja Bhaiyya have emerged.
From career progression point of view, they start by doing minor crimes & what commonly called in UP as "Dabangai", forming small gangs, executing a high profile murder, Getting into Jail then evicted/or posted on bail, to getting elected into state assembly or parliament based on their influence in the community or region where they belong. Of course, many gets eliminated due to gang wars and police encounters. For a state with significant rural population where state writ doesn't run effectively, this Bahubali culture sometimes help in resolution of local disputes of common populace and hence they get legitimacy in the political structure. IMO, this malice is not limited to UP state only but a kind of legitimization it has got from the political system makes it a permanent feature.
 

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I have not met anyone from my state UP( west or east ) who supports division of state. This is not happening any time soon.
I know a few from western UP who support separation as they feel other regions as burden. But I agree such voices are very few. Not even a fraction of support that demand for Telangana had garnered.

Prior to 2014, I heard that BJP were quite open to this idea of separation as they thought this could pave their way to power in UP ( Those days when people hardly took BJP seriously in state politics). Even this idea is not inimical to BSP also as her govt passed resolution for favoring partition of state into 4. However, post 2014/2017, BJP has dumped this idea altogether given the magical caste alliances that Amit Shah stitched in both of these elections.
If BJP maintains its performance in Poorvanchal and Bundelkhand, no body could stop them in 2022 election from retaining UP even they loose some seats in western and central part.

Now Coupta ji is parroting it as it now suits to Congress which has some strength left in Central and western region of UP. Where At least with alliance with SP/RLD, they could imagine taking serious shot at power.
 

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If I knew he would have sat in prison for years and years of hard labour I would think that would be better punishment. But that would not happen not pleased if fake encounter never been comfortable with fake encounters since the 80s but happens in all countries look at Epstein's suicide. You have dirt on powerful politicians they will do you in the west or east.
 

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I know a few from western UP who support separation as they feel other regions as burden. But I agree such voices are very few. Not even a fraction of support that demand for Telangana had garnered.

Prior to 2014, I heard that BJP were quite open to this idea of separation as they thought this could pave their way to power in UP ( Those days when people hardly took BJP seriously in state politics). Even this idea is not inimical to BSP also as her govt passed resolution for favoring partition of state into 4. However, post 2014/2017, BJP has dumped this idea altogether given the magical caste alliances that Amit Shah stitched in both of these elections.
If BJP maintains its performance in Poorvanchal and Bundelkhand, no body could stop them in 2022 election from retaining UP even they loose some seats in western and central part.

Now Coupta ji is parroting it as it now suits to Congress which has some strength left in Central and western region of UP. Where At least with alliance with SP/RLD, they could imagine taking serious shot at power.
This incident is going to have an impact on brahmin votes. I have seen ardent voters disturbed by the way the family was dragged and is still being hounded by govt. and media. Kamlesh tiwari incident is still not forgotten where he was not given security despite repeated requests. His wife was shoved by policemen. Dead body was handled in reckless manner and the govt. didn't allow creation in his hometown citing law and order. Yogi didn't visit the family of kamlesh tiwari despite being CM and hindutva leader and instead forced the family to visit him for photo ops. This was later confirmed by kamlesh tiwaris mother that she didn't wanted to visit yogi but was forced by officers. Some reports even say that the relatives of brajesh SINGH are given special treatment. Yogi is now being increasingly seen as pro thakur and anti brahmin by some.
 

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whatsapp fwd which mildly echoes what i feel about this encounter.

In late December 1971, when communal violence targetting Muslims reached Thalasseri, Kerala, a prominent young CPI-M leader Vijayan Koran and M.V. Raghavan had been given charge by CPI-M of protecting mosques allegedly targeted by the RSS. Their goal was to make the Muslims believe that the communists were the saviors of Muslims. Vijayan Koran and his comrades travelled in the riot-hit regions with microphones and requested people to maintain harmony and not to fall into the communal propaganda which research shows was unleashed by themselves.

They stood guard at mosques which the mobs had targeted for destruction, and one of them, U. K. Kunjiraman, lost his life in that defence on January 4, 1972. Vijayan was captured by the Thalassery Superintendent of Police who had taken charge just two days earlier. During the process of capturing him, Vijayan gave the slip to the constables who were holding his hands and started to run. The SP decided to pursue Vijayan on foot and ran after him and easily reached up to him and landed a flying kick to his back. Vijayan fell flat on his face to the ground.

In the ensuing tussle, Vijayan lost his mundu (Kerala attire worn around the waist that can cover upto the ankles or can be folded to cover upto the knees). Vijayan was handcuffed and dragged into the police jeep by the SP of Thalassery in the midst of villagers shouting out pro CPI-M slogans. It was the arresting officer himself who picked up Vijayan's mundu and gave it to him before throwing him into the back of the jeep. The SP did not say or do anything to Vijayan in public. He simply took him away.

After arriving at the police station, Vijayan was ushered into the lockup by the constables who walked him inside and uncuffed him. The SP entered the lockup, grabbed Vijayan by the neck with one hand and easily lifted his frail body at least 1 foot above ground. The SP then dropped Vijayan down to earth and gave him a gaze. Vijayan's eyeballs involuntarily moved down whimpering in fear. The SP said: Mr. VIJAYAN KORAN! LOOK AT ME!!!

He then pulled out his revolver and placed it in front of Vijayan's forehead. As soon as the SP unbuckled his revolver holster, Vijayan broke out into a loud sob and urinated right there begging for forgiveness in Malayalam. The SP, although not a malalayee but was a Kerala Cadre IPS could understand that "ayyo saare enne onnum chayyalle, encode kshamikkane" means "please sir, do not harm me, forgive me". The SP then told Vijayan, I don't want to see any more violence in Thalassery sponsored by your bosses and executed by you goons. This gun is loaded and the next time we meet, there will be no pleasantries. The lead bullet in it will enter your forehead and leave with your brains from behind your head. Is that clear?

Vijayan still profusely sobbing managed to respond "yes sir" as he deficated while standing. The SP then instructed him to use his mundu to wipe the floor which had a pool of Vijayan's urine and feces between his legs. As the SP left the lockup, he told Vijayan that he will release him without charge the next day and he has to go and advise his freinds in the party to stop this nonsense that leads to people getting killed for political needs.

Thalassery was calm and quiet for the next 6 months until the SP was transferred from Thalassery by the CPI-M's CM Shri C. Achuthan Menon's administration.

The SP was none other than Shri *Ajith Doval* and Vijayan Koran who is a murder accused in the murder of RSS activist Vadikkal Ramakrishnan on April 28, 1969, in Kannur was sworn in as the chief minister of Kerala in May 2016. He is known as *Pinarayi Vijayan* outside of his police records.

Ajith Doval is in charge of the NIA investigation regarding the Kerala gold smuggling case of 2020 in which CM Vijayan's close aid and secretary Shri M Sivasankaran IAS is allegedly involved.
 

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This incident is going to have an impact on brahmin votes. I have seen ardent voters disturbed by the way the family was dragged and is still being hounded by govt. and media. Kamlesh tiwari incident is still not forgotten where he was not given security despite repeated requests. His wife was shoved by policemen. Dead body was handled in reckless manner and the govt. didn't allow creation in his hometown citing law and order. Yogi didn't visit the family of kamlesh tiwari despite being CM and hindutva leader and instead forced the family to visit him for photo ops. This was later confirmed by kamlesh tiwaris mother that she didn't wanted to visit yogi but was forced by officers. Some reports even say that the relatives of brajesh SINGH are given special treatment. Yogi is now being increasingly seen as pro thakur and anti brahmin by some.
Thakur and Brahmin split is the reason for BJPs loss in Gorakhpur.
 

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Thakur and Brahmin split is the reason for BJPs loss in Gorakhpur.
What I heard was that the main reason for By-poll defeat was consolidation of votes in favor of local Nishad candidate pitched by SP+BSP combo (who by the way, joined BJP later & Nishads has considerable population in that region) and lower voting in urban areas of Gorakhpur. You can't count on Savarna vote bank alone as winning recipe in UP; it must be complimented by either non-Yadav/non-Jatav SCs (winning combo for BJP as of now) or Muslims (which Congress earlier used to get) for winning first past the post system.

Till Vikas Dubey episode, BJP is preferred choice for Brahmins in UP because the Congress which they earlier supported has lost steam, moreover, the BSP who rose to power in 2007 on Brahmin+SC+Muslim alliance is not liked by Brahmins anymore given their bad experience (particularly touching feet of Behen ji by their senior leaders which was kind of pre-condition of working with BSP). There is inherent contradictions among Brahmins & SC communities due to historical & religious reasons as understood by all. Plus, the BJP gives Brahmin fair representation in Cabinet as well as bureaucracy, hence there is little reason for them to get miffed just on encounter of Vikas Dubey who in the past have murdered many Brahmins leaders. We can't jump to conclusions as it's still a developing situation IMO.
 

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Splitting UP seems to be the ideal solution but also very risky.



The Paschim Braj region also know has Rohilkhand as over 35% Muslim Population.
They will dictate the politics in the region other than taht Jat and Jatav are the second biggest group which are no good bependi ka lota they shift between SP and BSP.
Whoever has to stay here has to woo the peaceful population.

Purvancahl will be the most backwards state thanks to its Bhaiya raj and will most likely be dominated by BJP thanks to General+Non yadav OBC.

Awadh will be dominated by SP for sure.

Bundelkhand will fall to Congress.
 

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Splitting UP seems to be the ideal solution but also very risky.



The Paschim Braj region also know has Rohilkhand as over 35% Muslim Population.
They will dictate the politics in the region other than taht Jat and Jatav are the second biggest group which are no good bependi ka lota they shift between SP and BSP.
Whoever has to stay here has to woo the peaceful population.

Purvancahl will be the most backwards state thanks to its Bhaiya raj and will most likely be dominated by BJP thanks to General+Non yadav OBC.

Awadh will be dominated by SP for sure.

Bundelkhand will fall to Congress.
Is this a solution or another J&K creation idea ? By this way entire India will be affected and only Hindus will suffer.
 
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Splitting UP seems to be the ideal solution but also very risky.



The Paschim Braj region also know has Rohilkhand as over 35% Muslim Population.
They will dictate the politics in the region other than taht Jat and Jatav are the second biggest group which are no good bependi ka lota they shift between SP and BSP.
Whoever has to stay here has to woo the peaceful population.

Purvancahl will be the most backwards state thanks to its Bhaiya raj and will most likely be dominated by BJP thanks to General+Non yadav OBC.

Awadh will be dominated by SP for sure.

Bundelkhand will fall to Congress.
Bundelkhand will not fall into Congress laps; it's is currently dominated by BJP. Congress will consistently get 4th position in every region if all the parties decide to contest separately.

I agree for Awadh part, areas like Etawah, Kannauj, are dominated by SP goons.

In Poorvanchal, BJP can't rely on the support of fluid caste alliances forever, BSP is still a force to reckon with.

For western UP, Jats are very particular about their caste identity hence they support Ajit Singh & Co. or whichever party RLD supports. However, post Muzaffarnagar riots with emergence of strong Jat leaders in BJP like Balyan and Hukum Singh, their votes have gradually shifted to BJP, however, veterans Jats in that region still like to support RLD for Charan singh legacy. It's again a complex game. Though, it's also true that this region has significant Muslim population as in Kairana. But any consolidation in Muslim vote will result in counter-mobilization of Hindu votes; the moment Muslims gets population around 30-35% (on gross level, not in some pocket constituencies), it will be a field day for likes of BSP & SP because then they wont need support from Jats to get elected.

Unlike Bihar, where caste loyalty is kind of stratified, in UP this changes from election to election. Moreover, UP has higher number of urban constituencies where caste alliances doesn't necessarily pay off rich dividends. Hence, every new elections gives ample room to strategists to work around. I also believe this division of state is not going to happen any soon till BJP is in power.
 

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This coupta was alleged to be a cia spy in wikileaks and in real god only knows how many other agencies

And ironically people are dumb enough to fall for his brainwashing . How convenient is the timing of this couptas report.

UP division is a very bad idea now , considering yogi is in power.

Cannot allow foothold of Islamists and leftists.

We Hindus are the most stupid dumb fuck suicidal bunch of morons in the whole world. Most of us of try to act too smart which ultimately ends up in us getting fucked up . 700 hundred years of ass fucking has yet not taught us a lesson .
 

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This coupta was alleged to be a cia spy in wikileaks and in real god only knows how many other agencies

And ironically people are dumb enough to fall for his brainwashing . How convenient is the timing of this couptas report.

UP division is a very bad idea now , considering yogi is in power.

Cannot allow foothold of Islamists and leftists.

We Hindus are the most stupid dumb fuck suicidal bunch of morons in the whole world. Most of us of try to act too smart which ultimately ends up in us getting fucked up . 700 hundred years of ass fucking has yet not taught us a lesson .
UP split is not going to happen in near future. It will be political suicide.
 

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i don;t know why we are converting a law & order problem to a religious things altogether.. it started with khangress and have spread here...

Common folks... a gangster is eliminated ... UP Police is on encounter spree... no way they would have spared him after what he did ... they have killed both muzzies and dindu's...Yogi is a mahant of gorakhpeeth.... all castes follow his peeth. I am a brahmin and despite him being a born rajput respect his a lot for being the mahant of Gorakhpeeth. One need to learn how to divide your professional and personnel life..Being CM , he is doing what he is supposed to do... thats Karma....thats what sanatan dharma teaches us....

ask those who got rid of dubey fear if this was correct or incorrect... rest all is politics and mango man are literate enough to see thru it...there is a reason why khangress is in pit full of shitload...
 

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