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HindaviSwarajya

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I mean if hindus start complaning like this not a single mosque or church will stand. [email protected]@@@@ religious feelings gets hurt with bharat mata. The solution to this is outside politics. Hindu dharma will get re-established. We will see in our lifetime
 

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ചാത്തൂട്ടി (@chathootti) Tweeted:
Prominent Catholic padre who supposed to become the next bishop caught having illicit affair with a parishioner's wife. Visuals leaked out when he gave the mobile for servicing 😄
https://t.co/AlzGR6WFJe
Most of these bishops and padres are pedos or rapists..
In India, these clowns are even worse.
 

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We are able to identify the muzzies by their names ,but how to identify these converts because most of them keep their original names .
 

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We are able to identify the muzzies by their names ,but how to identify these converts because most of them keep their original names .
Baptism records?
We should make a concerted effort to get books of religious institutions a matter of public record and then use the Baptism records for our purpose.
 

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I was going through the website of Agniveer. Guys the various activities they are doing to reconvert a village of 1000 ppl requires around rs 5 Lakh . Better to donate to these kind of organizations than donating to temples which are under the clutches of governments
 

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The Jagadguru Versus a Missionary

Following is an interesting debate that took place between the Jagadguru Shankaracharya of Shringeri Sharada piitam, Shrii Shrii Abhinava Vidyathiirtha mahaswamigal ( 1931 – 1989 ) and a Christian Missionary, sometime in the year 1973.

The missionary had come to Shringeri to debate with the Acharya and establish the "superemacy" of Christianity over the Hindu dharma. After exchanging a few words of formality,

Jagadguru: What is the purpose of your visit ?

Missionary: Swamiji, I intend to open a Christian church and an ashram just near you mutt.

Jagadguru: What's the objective or motivation for doing so?

Missionary: I want to preach Christianity and help distressed people seek peace and salvation

Jagadguru: Well, what do you preach ?

Missionary: Regarding Christianity; the greatness of Jesus Christ and thereby convert people to our Christian religion

Jagadguru: Well, could you kindly explain to me about your religion ?
Missionary: With Pleasure Swamiji !!!. You may ask me specific questions. I will answer to them.

Jagadguru: How old is your religion ?

Missionary: It has been 1973 years since my religion was founded.

Jagadguru: Good. It means that there is a specific date for the beginning of your religion. But were there not people before your religion was born ? Were they not living happily ?

Missionary: If there were no people at all, for whom should we have preached our religion? Before Christianity was born, people were very much there. Christianity began to show people the sure way to go to the heaven.

Jagadguru: Ok !!! you mean to say that only those who follow your religion go to heavens and the rest fall into hell. What happened to millions of people who lived (and died) before your Christianity was born ? Were they going to heavens or to hell after death ?

Missionary: They were all sinners since they didn't follow
Christianity and hence went to hell to suffer.

Jagadguru: That is highly unfair !!!!!!!!!!!!!. Even the most corrupt government of the present age won't follow such a foolish policy !!!!. Is it justifiable to say that all those who didn't follow the rules and regulations before it was formulated would go to hell ? Is it possible to know in advance the rules of Law that would be enacted sometime in distant future and follow it now ?

Hence it is not only unfair, but highly foolish to say that all those who didn't embrace and follow Christianity before it was
founded, were sinners and went to hell.
[ At this point, the Missionary was highly confused and embarrassed.

His face turned pale. He had observed that the Mahaswamy was very cool and composed throughout the debate. In contrast, the Missionary was breathing heavily due to anxiousness and showed signs of restlessness. Unable to look at the glittering persona of the Mahaswamy, the Missionary bent his head and said in a low voice

Missionary: True Swamiji. I agree to your words. Those people (who
lived before Christianity was born) would not have gone to hell. They would have only gone to the heavens.

Jagadguru: Even that would be highly unfair. Because according to
you, every person who lived before the birth of Christianity would have gone to the Heaven. But according to the teachings of Christianity, only those who follow the Christ's path would go to
the Heaven and the rest would go to hell. Therefore, it was better
before Christianity was born, since everyone could go to heaven without discretion !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Your Christianity is indeed doing injustice to people.

[Now the Missionary was highly disturbed. He had to eat his own words. He simply wished to somehow escape from that place; but could not do so]

Missionary: Swamiji, please don't ask me such questions. Please let
me go
[taking pity at the vulnerability of the Missionary, the Swamji
continued:]

Jagadguru: Ok, let us leave all those stuff for now. You see, people
in this world are subject to different kinds of worries, sufferings and pleasures. What's the reason for this?

Missionary: The almighty God Jesus is responsible for this.

Jagadguru: If your God is responsible for the pitiable condition of a beggar and the pleasures enjoyed by a wealthy man, then doesn't it mean that your god likes some people and dislikes the rest ?

Missionary: That is God's own wish. We are helpless. He can act
according to his wishes.

Jagadguru: Ok then, He could have blessed everyone with only pleasures and happiness. Why did He then give sorrow and sufferings to some people ?

Missionary: Its all left to God's wish. We never know why

Jagadguru: I find no logic or essence in your answer. By the way, one more question to you. Some people die while in childhood itself.
Some others die in their old age. Where do the children go after death – to heaven or hell ?

Missionary: How can small children commit any mistake ? they are
flawless. Since they are too young, there is no question of sin or good deed.

Jagadguru: That's why I asked you regarding children

Missionary: All children go to heaven only!

Jagadguru: Oh !!! Then our parents have done a great injustice to all of us. They should have killed us while we were small children so that we would have not committed any sin when we grew up. The
heavens also would have been ours!!!!!!!!
[The Missionary was once again in trouble]

Missionary: Swamiji, I am unable to say anything.

Jagadguru: Ok leave it. After death, all have to go either to the Heaven or hell. Can you tell me when this happens?

Missionary: Whenever the God wishes to dispense justice, the fate of a soul is decided

Jagadguru: What a surprise !!!!!! Is God so lunatic that he dispenses justice as and when he wishes ?

Missionary: No not like that. There is a particular order

Jagadguru: Ok please explain to me that order explained in your Bible
[The Missionary started sweating and blabbering]

Jagadguru: Ok I will tell you what has been told in your Bible.
Kindly correct me if I am wrong

Missionary: Sure Swamiji

Jagadguru: After the death of all people on this earth, on one fine
day (known as "the Judgement day"), the God will dispense justice by sending some to heaven and the rest to hell.

Missionary: Yes Yes !!! your words are very much true Swamiji

Jagadguru: Look my dear, observe the happenings of our own world. If a person is caught for committing a crime, he is housed in a jail for a couple of days, before conducting an inquiry. If it is
required to keep him in jail for long, he has to be produced before
the Magistrate and obtain his permission. If the Magistrate doesn't
agree for that, the culprit has to be let free.

According to your religion, after the death of a person, his soul
has to wait for the death of all the rest of the people on this
earth, even if it means billions of years, to seek judgement from
the God. People keep taking birth and dying. How unfair it is to say
that one has to wait for the death of all the rest !!!!!!!!!!. Even
in man made courts, no judge will ask an accused to wait for trial
until all the rest commit some crime !!!!!

[The Missionary was totally speechless and blank. He didn't know
what to do or how to react. He just sat like stone. The Jagadguru
continued:]

Your religion is supreme to you alone. You should follow it with
utmost faith and reverence. But you have no right to question and
destroy the faith of others, nor try to "convert" them.

Also it is not at all fair to preach that those who don't follow your religion will go to hell. It is nothing but ignorance to think that only your faith leads to God and that of others are useless.

Stop preaching and start seeking the Truth. A realized person treats all equally.
[As usual, the Jagadguru blessed the visitor (Missionary) and blessedh im with fruits and "mantrakshatha". The Missionary
prostrated before the Jagadguru with utmost reverence and left the place.
 

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I was going through the website of Agniveer. Guys the various activities they are doing to reconvert a village of 1000 ppl requires around rs 5 Lakh . Better to donate to these kind of organizations than donating to temples which are under the clutches of governments
This is my issue with Agniveer.
I am not convinced that their intention is to protect dharma. They have this intention of disruption amongst us.
 

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This guy is full of idiocy :-
I reported his videos...


 

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Btw, I assume he might be overstating the figures but the fact that they are going public with it suggests they have reached a stage where they are willing to up the ante.
 

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Btw, I assume he might be overstating the figures but the fact that they are going public with it suggests they have reached a stage where they are willing to up the ante.
If people are converting either through deception or willingness let us assume there must be some problems as to why they are converting. Addressing those problems may help fight this trend.
These vultures they prey on weak, but then you remember those who help you during tough times.
 
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No Conversion (@noconversion) Tweeted:
Ajit Jogi ...Main reason why Chattisgarh is 25-40% Christian, is no more
 

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If people are converting either through deception or willingness let us assume there must be some problems as to why they are converting. Addressing those problems may help fight this trend.
These vultures they prey on weak, but then you remember those who help you during tough times.
We teach false history. No where there were so many atrocities done(not denyingbthey were not there but they were mostly in period when british created caste system). Manu smriti was modified in same time but there r counter verses available manu smriti against discrimination and caste not by birth. Hindus especially dalits r fed with false info and that caste system continued from late 19th century.

Another problem no hindu education and our opposition will cry hindutva if its done. Beauracracy , judges police politicians and parties against hindus many get funded by missionaries. So even those fighting against missionaries r not heard and missiinaries get scott free.

Too many sold jaichands we have, but we have many desh bhakths also
 

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Casteism helps conversion to Christianity & Buddhism, like nothing else.
 

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Money is the answer to everything, I'm now fed up with Hindus lamenting about christian missionaries. If someone wants to propagate some other religion and convert using money, it will happen, legislation against it or not.

Hindu civilization is so poor that we cry that someone else came from outside used the inherent system against us to divide and make us weak. The sad part is that even after 73 years of independence we still use that excuse.

Money and state support can only counter what the missionaries are doing, they have a massive support from the western hemisphere. You cannot bet on a side like Hinduism which has no state support and is also losing lower class support like anything.
 

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