Future Infantry Combat Vehicle (FICV)

[Hittrom]

For modern urban combats and troops protected mobility where the weight of the carrier is around 30t the wheeled platforms must be the ones opted like the US stryker, bradley and german boxers as these are easy to be deployed and requires less maintenance so i think the kestrels would have been a better option keeping in mind its a future icv where indian demographics are surely going to change
While the tracked versions should be opted for more dedicated warfare regions to fight along with the MBTs in the form of ATGM carriers like 2 in 1 configuration and the MPVs currently in use to both State agencies and CRPF in naxalite and terrorist prone areas

 

[Bleh]

For modern urban combats and troops protected mobility where the weight of the carrier is around 30t the wheeled platforms must be the ones opted like the US stryker, bradley...

Indian Army hq don't care about modern combat or troop protection. Their GSQR requirement is 20ton max.

The BMP-2 had central protection of only STANAG-2 (7.62) on sides & STANAG-4 (.50) on front, they never upgraded that.
OFB prototype has STANAG-4 (.50) on sides & unknown but STANAG-5/6 on front, as they claimed composite armour.

L&T FICV concepts specifications aren't available yet, other than it's got unmanned turret.

 

[Prashant12]

OFB, DRDO working on futuristic infantry combat vehicle


Kolkata, Mar 17 (PTI) The Ordnance Factory Board (OFB), in collaboration with DRDO, is developing a futuristic infantry combat vehicle (FICV) for the Army, which may see the light of day in three to five years.

The Army at present has the infantry personnel carrier with a 30 mm gun - the BMP II.

The FICV will have advanced features that were in the drawing board stage a few years back, OFB Chairman Hari Mohan told reporters at a press conference here.

Mohan said the OFB and Defence Research and Development Organisation, which were earlier working separately on the FICV, are now joining hands to develop it.

"It is an evolving product; features will keep developing for the FICV," he said.

"Depending upon interaction with Army officials... when the product comes to an acceptable stage and the Army gives its nod, production will start. It will be tentatively named Mark I," Mohan said.

While Mark I of FICV is expected in three to five years, Mark II may be visible in the horizon in five to 10 years, the OFB chairman said.

He said the biggest advantage of the FICV is almost everything is being developed within the country.

"There may be some very small sub-systems which we will be importing now...," Mohan said.

An OFB official said the new FICV will have enhanced firepower, including an auto grenade launcher with a range of 1,500 metres and anti-tank guided missile capability, which launches missiles at a range of 4,000 metres with automated command.

It will also have a gun control system integrated with a thermal imager fire control system, the official said.

Mohan said with the Union government focusing on export of defence products, the OFB is aiming at Rs 500-crore worth of exports in the next two to three years.

"Defence exports stood at Rs 15 crore-20 crore two to three years back. It rose to Rs 240 crore last year," he added. PTI AMR RBT RBT

https://www.outlookindia.com/newssc...on-futuristic-infantry-combat-vehicle/1771293

 

[fire starter]

OFB, DRDO working on futuristic infantry combat vehicle


Kolkata, Mar 17 (PTI) The Ordnance Factory Board (OFB), in collaboration with DRDO, is developing a futuristic infantry combat vehicle (FICV) for the Army, which may see the light of day in three to five years.

The Army at present has the infantry personnel carrier with a 30 mm gun - the BMP II.

The FICV will have advanced features that were in the drawing board stage a few years back, OFB Chairman Hari Mohan told reporters at a press conference here.

Mohan said the OFB and Defence Research and Development Organisation, which were earlier working separately on the FICV, are now joining hands to develop it.

"It is an evolving product; features will keep developing for the FICV," he said.

"Depending upon interaction with Army officials... when the product comes to an acceptable stage and the Army gives its nod, production will start. It will be tentatively named Mark I," Mohan said.

While Mark I of FICV is expected in three to five years, Mark II may be visible in the horizon in five to 10 years, the OFB chairman said.

He said the biggest advantage of the FICV is almost everything is being developed within the country.

"There may be some very small sub-systems which we will be importing now...," Mohan said.

An OFB official said the new FICV will have enhanced firepower, including an auto grenade launcher with a range of 1,500 metres and anti-tank guided missile capability, which launches missiles at a range of 4,000 metres with automated command.

It will also have a gun control system integrated with a thermal imager fire control system, the official said.

Mohan said with the Union government focusing on export of defence products, the OFB is aiming at Rs 500-crore worth of exports in the next two to three years.

"Defence exports stood at Rs 15 crore-20 crore two to three years back. It rose to Rs 240 crore last year," he added. PTI AMR RBT RBT

https://www.outlookindia.com/newssc...on-futuristic-infantry-combat-vehicle/1771293

really after that so called FICV aka BMP of ofb I don't believe on them any more. May be we can expect some thing from drdo.

 

[Akula]

really after that so called FICV aka BMP of ofb I don't believe on them any more. May be we can expect some thing from drdo.

May be DRDO is working on upgraded Abhay mk-2 or a new design. OFB design has lot of problems especially that turret.

 

[Shaitan]

L&T FICV Mock Up

 

[Suryavanshi]

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L&T FICV Mock Up

What are the basic specs parameters they are trying to establish here.
Any idea?

 

[Shaitan]

What are the basic specs parameters they are trying to establish here.
Any idea?

I dont think they have put out the specs all these guys are waiting for them to commit to a specification. But basic requirement I would think would be amphibious, armed with modern ATGMs, hopefully scalable in terms of armor protection, hopefully a self protection suite if not hard kill, passive defensive suite, modern BMS, and probably multiple build types on the platform(Medic, Mobile arty, light tank, etc.), etc. I doubt they will go for unmanned turret just yet. Not all that futuristic, rather just a modern ICV.

 

[Bajirao]

Mod should stop this circus (strategic partnership,make2,make1) and give the r&d project to drdo.if drdo can make fighter jet,missile,radar then they can design a good icv also.private players can never design a ficv by their own,they can only bring a foreign design and paint their logo on that and give a exotic indian name on it.they are good at subsystem manufacturing and giving a competition to ofb.as for full sustem designing they can't even design a good compact missile carrying truck(except ashok leyland).we are buying europian tatra truck for that purpose...giving ficv program to private players means importing foreign ficv when drdo have capability to design it....
.One good newsis that mod sanctioned r&d project for ngmbt to drdo.....so,frcv program not going to be successful and we will get a truly made in india mbt....

 

[Shaitan]

L&T display showing some sort of ICV. I dont know if it has anything to do with their FICV program.

It's of a older date(2018) compared to the 1:1 mockup.

Latest

 

[Karthi]

Tata FICV

Requirements of MOD for FIcv.

it must provide protection from bullets fired by 14.5mm calibre weapons.

it must be amphibious, i.e. capable of floating in water.

it must be air-transportable, which would imply a maximum weight of 18-20 tons.

it must have a grenade launcher, co-axial machine gun, and be capable of firing anti-tank missiles (fire and forget type).

 

[Karthi]

Mahindra FICV concept

 

[Karthi]

L&T FICV

 

[Karthi]

Mckeup of TATA FICV

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

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Tata FICV

Requirements of MOD for FIcv.

it must provide protection from bullets fired by 14.5mm calibre weapons.

it must be amphibious, i.e. capable of floating in water.

it must be air-transportable, which would imply a maximum weight of 18-20 tons.

it must have a grenade launcher, co-axial machine gun, and be capable of firing anti-tank missiles (fire and forget type).

The weight category needs a serious rethink.
There are hardly any modern FICV which weigh less than 25 tons.
The T-15 which is based upon the Armata platform weighs 48tons.
The South Korean K21 FICV from which the L&T FICV draws inspiration weighs 25.6 tons.

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

Actually there are no official specifications drawn up by the army. In late 2000s, when the project proposal was first drawn up, army unofficially wanted a bmp replacement, and so many defence journos reported bmp specifications. The project has been delayed for over a decade now. Hence those specifications are obsolete. In Indian context, many projects which are named futuristic, like ficv & finsas are actually attempts to acheive parity with what western militaries possesses currently. Today if you look around the world, there are several good icvs like: Griffen, lynx, puma,cv90,Bradley etc., most of which weigh 28-30 tons or more. They are equiiped with modular armour, which can be increased to suit the mission requirements. There are no firing ports but enhanced side protection. Then there is a heavy ifv like t-15 and Namer, which weighs 50+tons, which are converted from mbts. Hence in absence of officially defined specifications which are in sync with technology available around the world, no icv project can take off.
Having said that, if the army comes up with something official like weight, we can have prototypes. For example: 25-30 tons ( 6 wheels): tata, l&t ficv, but 45-50 tons(with 7 wheels): DRDO can come up with a icv based on Arjun mbt, ofb with enlarged bmp etc.

 

[Bajirao]

Currently drdo is devoloping about 15 missile of clean sheet design and another 10 of spin-off design.but it's strange that despite having a dedicated lab for light armoured vehicle ,drdo not designing a single icv...

 

[Bleh]

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Tata FICV

Requirements of MOD for FIcv.

it must provide protection from bullets fired by 14.5mm calibre weapons.

it must be amphibious, i.e. capable of floating in water.

it must be air-transportable, which would imply a maximum weight of 18-20 tons.

it must have a grenade launcher, co-axial machine gun, and be capable of firing anti-tank missiles (fire and forget type).

Thats the good old WhAP. I don't the FICV is wheeled version of same platform.

Why has any of the automobile giants still not managed to make anything beyond concept arts and mock ups?.. I remember seeing some GIF/videos of Tata FICV prototype.

can u list all the missiles.

See the DRDO & PSU page. That place is like an encyclopedia!

 

[Pazhassiraja]

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Mckeup of TATA FICV

Both the FICV pics posted by you looks the same. So probably both should be from TATA, right? Also if you observe, the turret of WHap and the TATA FICV are same.

Off topic, pls upload the pdf docs of the electromagnetic rail gun design that you have.

 

[Karthi]

@Pazhassiraja you mean EMALS ? Both are L&T .

TATA