Is the first one simply a tilt-rotor like V-22 Osprey ? As for V-22 Osprey, it was quite unpopular until recently because it was considered unsafe, overpriced, and completely inadequate (half payload at twice price of CH-53E). Some report said that in case both engines fail, it cannot make a safe landing in helicopter mode, being incapable of autorotation. Basically, it is less forgiving aircraft that hopters. Has a history of crashes in developmental phase (perhaps fixed now). Now it is considered safer but still vastly overpriced.Regarding troop insertion in remote areas, where there might not be long runways, I have two interesting existing concepts. I'd like to see the former in the size of the latter.
XC-142 VTOL Test Aircraft - YouTube
@Kunal Biswas C-17 can also do that, right ?Presently AFV such as BMP-2 can only be paradrop by IL-76 and may be C-130J..
I dont know about Jet engine use on helo, very interesting but very radical..
@Kunal Biswas C-17 can also do that, right ?
Does anyone know if we have any plans for acquiring transport carriers in 120+ tonnes range, like (Galaxy or An-124) ? Basically for airlifting multiple pieces of heavy armour, APC's in fewer sorties over longer ranges & higher altitudes, not for troop insertion.
So Kunal, how do we airlift 2 T-90's for example ?C-17 can do better, there are no plans beyond C-17 for now..
Antonov-124 is the only aircraft that can carry two Arjun tanks in one go, and still have capacity for additional jet pack for higher altitude. The question what its service ceiling wold be in that case.Does anyone know if we have any plans for acquiring transport carriers in 120+ tonnes range, like (Galaxy or An-124) ? Basically for airlifting multiple pieces of heavy armour, APC's in fewer sorties over longer ranges & higher altitudes, not for troop insertion.
Yeah, I have always wondered why there is no mention ever of above class of aircrafts for India. We do plan to life heavy armour to high altitude, right ? Anyway, armored columns on hill roads moving one after other are highly vulnerable to gunship fire.Antonov-124 is the only aircraft that can carry two Arjun tanks in one go, and still have capacity for additional jet pack for higher altitude. The question what its service ceiling wold be in that case.
Antonov-124 is the only aircraft that can carry two Arjun tanks in one go, and still have capacity for additional jet pack for higher altitude. The question what its service ceiling wold be in that case.
So Kunal, how do we airlift 2 T-90's for example ?
I mean, C-17 would need 2 sorties to make that happen (even in SKD condition). While a Galaxy sized carrier can lift 3 T-90's in a single sortie. That is 66% lesser sorties needed. Enough time saved as well as some fuel economy.
Weird. Wiki says C-17 can carry 170,900 lb (77,519 kg). How does it carry two Abrams? Each Abrams weighs around 61,300 kg. It sure has space for two Abrams, but weight?C-17 can carry two Arjuns as it carry two M1A2..
That picture you put must be of Abrams that have been stripped of engine, ammo, etc., in other words, those in the picture are not battle ready Abrams.
Source: Boeing C-17 Globemaster III - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I guess you already know this, there is an excellent staging ground for an armoured assault into Tibet from Gurudongmar Lake and Kerang area of Sikkim.Most probably, It can be some new update which wiki does not mention or US government kept C-17 max payload as classified ..
My guess something like lesser fuel more payload..
Like we transported Arjun mk1 to guwahati Assam, from there they can be loaded and destined for sikkim..
IAF team inspects site for Advanced Landing Ground in Tawang
IAF team inspects site for Advanced Landing Ground in Tawang - The Times of IndiaITANAGAR: A high-level technical team of the Indian Air Force (IAF) inspected a site for construction of the proposed Advanced Landing Ground (ALG) in Tawang district bordering China.
The IAF team inspected the site at Thrillam village under Lumla sub-division of the district on Friday, along with local MLA Jambey Tashi, deputy commissioner Abhishek Dev and brigadier J S Rajpurohit, commander of the 190 Mountain Brigade, officials said.
The team, comprising wing commander P Joseph of Air Force Station, Jorhat, and squadron leader R Shiva Prasad of Tezpur expressed their satisfaction with the proposed site for the ALG.
They would submit their report to the authorities, the source said.
Tashi and local panchayat members requested the state government to take up the construction of the ALG as the site was echnically suitable.
pmaitra thanks for pointing me to this thread, but I note that this thread is more about the Indian side. I find, in general, in the media and on the interent, a great number of references to Chinas strengths and India's loopholes/weaknesses. For this reason I thought I would put in a detailed study of what is happening on the Chinese side. All the Indian media and discussion boards make some statements and some assumptions about China - which is so widespread that it has become the truth. My purpose was to examine what is happening on the Chinese side and to that extent the stuff I want to write about is inapproprtate for this thread because it will be talking about Chinese strenghts and weaknesses (starting with Aksai Chin) and will have very little to do with Indias perceived weaknesses - which is a favorite topic of discussion.Frontier Infrastructure: Loopholes, Scenarios, Contingencies, Plans, Programmes, and Solutions
This thread is for discussing the Western and Eastern Sectors of the Indo-Tibetan Border and LAC, as well as the LAC with PoK.
Kindly discuss the weaknesses, loopholes, and India's current scenario about troop movement. We must also discuss weapons systems that can be used specifically in these regions, in case of a future war, which could be either defensive, or if we start a campaign to capture more territory to gain diplomatic leverage.
Yes, you are right. I have opened a thread for you: http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...ure-whats-up-prc-chinese-side.html#post749317pmaitra thanks for pointing me to this thread, but I note that this thread is more about the Indian side. I find, in general, in the media and on the interent, a great number of references to Chinas strengths and India's loopholes/weaknesses. For this reason I thought I would put in a detailed study of what is happening on the Chinese side. All the Indian media and discussion boards make some statements and some assumptions about China - which is so widespread that it has become the truth. My purpose was to examine what is happening on the Chinese side and to that extent the stuff I want to write about is inapproprtate for this thread because it will be talking about Chinese strenghts and weaknesses (starting with Aksai Chin) and will have very little to do with Indias perceived weaknesses - which is a favorite topic of discussion.
Perhaps I ought to start a dedicated thread in the China folder as I had planned and leave this thread for discussions of Indias strengths and weaknesses as envisaged in the first post.
Thanks. The title is fine. Will start posting some stuff sooon - need to organize because it is a mix of observations, opinions Google earth kmz links as well as close up screenshots.Let me know whether the title is ok.
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I must add, what is happening on the Chinese side is relevant in this thread, so while you post in that thread, we can link relevant posts in this thread. Both this and the other thread will be sister threads, because, if there is war, it will involve both the sides, so we cannot really see them as mutually exclusive.
Please do start a thread on the Chinese. No restrictions on the number of threads you can start.pmaitra thanks for pointing me to this thread, but I note that this thread is more about the Indian side. I find, in general, in the media and on the interent, a great number of references to Chinas strengths and India's loopholes/weaknesses. For this reason I thought I would put in a detailed study of what is happening on the Chinese side. All the Indian media and discussion boards make some statements and some assumptions about China - which is so widespread that it has become the truth. My purpose was to examine what is happening on the Chinese side and to that extent the stuff I want to write about is inapproprtate for this thread because it will be talking about Chinese strenghts and weaknesses (starting with Aksai Chin) and will have very little to do with Indias perceived weaknesses - which is a favorite topic of discussion.
Perhaps I ought to start a dedicated thread in the China folder as I had planned and leave this thread for discussions of Indias strengths and weaknesses as envisaged in the first post.
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