Former USA Navy PILOTS to train PLAN pilots

badguy2000

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well, ironicsly, it is reported by CD that some former US navy pilots now is working for PLAN and is to train PLAN pilots for AC.....

the veterans once were F14 pilots on US AC fleets .He rejected to "ride on girl-ish bird like F18" and retired after F14 retired.

Then they received offer from PLAN,because PLAN told them that "PLAN can give them they chance to ride on 'heavy F14-ish navy bird' again"!
 
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Well this sounds plausible-NOT!! So a USN pilot gave up his career and all the benifits that come with this ie medical,dental,pension etc just because he didn't want to fly the new Hornets?!! And then he went to China, and is now teaching the pilots of a nation many Americans widely belive is their next major enemy?!! And all because the PLAN made the offer of flying a heavy fighter??!!

There are so many things wrong with this news I don't know where to start but my first Q would be how would a USN F-14 pilot know a thing about how to operate a Su-33 off of a Soviet STOBAR congigured carrier especially when he has only ever flown off CATBAR ACCs??!!


Too absurd to belive, You've been duped my friend, the Chinese government is trying to assure the people that their naval aviators aren't in serious mortal danger because the PLAN has 0 experince and 0 knowledge of carrier operations.
 

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Well this sounds plausible-NOT!! So a USN pilot gave up his career and all the benifits that come with this ie medical,dental,pension etc just because he didn't want to fly the new Hornets?!! And then he went to China, and is now teaching the pilots of a nation many Americans widely belive is their next major enemy?!! And all because the PLAN made the offer of flying a heavy fighter??!!

There are so many things wrong with this news I don't know where to start but my first Q would be how would a USN F-14 pilot know a thing about how to operate a Su-33 off of a Soviet STOBAR congigured carrier especially when he has only ever flown off CATBAR ACCs??!!


Too absurd to belive, You've been duped my friend, the Chinese government is trying to assure the people that their naval aviators aren't in serious mortal danger because the PLAN has 0 experince and 0 knowledge of carrier operations.
those former US F14 pilots once worked for one austrailia air-line,after retiring from USAN,until they acceped offers from PLAN...

And, they is to fly J15BS,instead of J15.
 

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those former US F14 pilots once worked for one austrailia air-line,after retiring from USAN,until they acceped offers from PLAN...

And, they is to fly J15BS,instead of J15.
There is a big difference between training Australian commercial pilots and training Chinese naval aviators. Not to mention the USN guy's knowledge is hardly going to be helpful to China.


All in all I smell BS.
 

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There is a big difference between training Australian commercial pilots and training Chinese naval aviators. Not to mention the USN guy's knowledge is hardly going to be helpful to China.


All in all I smell BS.
I didn't believe it,untile some "insider" on CD proved it.
 

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@badguy2000,

You are long enough here to understand you need to provide some link ( English ) ? so that all can read the details..
 
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@badguy2000,

You are long enough here to understand you need to provide some link ( English ) ? so that all can read the details..
it was still posted just 1 or 2 days ago on CD.....which is my main information resource of Chinese mlitary ....

some "insider" proved it,,,

so, there is no english resource yet..

but, According to the past record, such news is quite credible......
 
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BTW, the retired PLAN pilot once was a commander of an US navy air wing.

He even expressed that he could recruit one air-wing of former US navy pilots for PLAN, if necessary.
 

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So mighty Chinese end up taking help from US, BTW he is sharing trade secrets if this news is true.
 

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BTW, the retired PLAN pilot once was a commander of an US navy air wing.

He even expressed that he could recruit one air-wing of former US navy pilots for PLAN, if necessary.
It just gets better and better!!! BS doesn't even cover it!

And I can't tell if your are joking or serious.
 

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If this is true it is not something impossible..

If money is good and Pilots are of Chinese origin its possible..
 

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Nothing is impossible. The USSR before can even recruit moles in US government to pass on important secrets. So a former USN pilot being hired to train PLAN pilots is possible. Especially so if that former American pilot is having financial troubles...
 

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It is good that China is taking help of US retired pilots to train how to land on an aircraft carrier!

Hope the retired chap is not a US CIA agent.

That is the danger that China has to watch out for.
 

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badguy, stop spreading this kind rumor, you should be mature enough not to be to exciting about rumor like this, control yourself.
 

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U.S. pilots find high demand, high pay overseas

The pilot of the Nigerian jetliner that crashed in Lagos, the country's largest city, on Sunday was an American, said Oscar Wason, Dana Air's director of operations, on Monday.......

"A lot of U.S. pilots are working overseas, more than ever before," Darby said. "It's pretty common."

Darby said that as airlines have consolidated in the U.S., the job market for experienced airline captains has become "stagnant." Experienced captains are losing seniority, and it may take them 10 to 20 years to get a captain's position back, he said.

So they turn overseas, where aviation is expanding and there is a clear need for the experience the Americans bring. They typically end up captaining jetliners with co-pilots and crew who are from their host countries or from other countries where aviation professionals are less experienced....

Americans signing on to pilot jetliners in the Middle East, China and India can make well over $100,000 a year, plus add-ons like housing, according to Darby.

For instance, Air China is hiring captains for Airbus A330 aircraft, and it will train. Pay is $4,000 a month during training and then $11,000 a month plus a $4,000 monthly living allowance once training is completed, according to the Wasinc ad.........

Shen Wei, a recruiter for China's Spring Air, told Bloomberg that China was a strong market for U.S. pilots.

U.S. pilots find high demand, high pay overseas – This Just In - CNN.com Blogs

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That is what surfaces about US pilots training Chinese.
 

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I just have to add this historical link about American pilots and China. :)

Flying Tigers: American Volunteer Group

and this wiki article:

Flying Tigers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The 1st American Volunteer Group (AVG) of the Chinese Air Force in 1941–1942, famously nicknamed the Flying Tigers, was composed of pilots from the United States Army (USAAF), Navy (USN), and Marine Corps (USMC), recruited under presidential authority and commanded by Claire Lee Chennault. The ground crew and headquarters staff were likewise mostly recruited from the U.S. military, along with some civilians.

The group consisted of three fighter squadrons with about 20 aircraft each. It trained in Burma before the American entry into World War II with the mission of defending China against Japanese forces. Arguably, the group was a private military contractor, and for that reason the volunteers have sometimes been called mercenaries. The members of the group had lucrative contracts with salaries ranging from $250 a month for a mechanic to $750 for a squadron commander, roughly three times what they had been making in the U.S. forces.

The Tigers' shark-faced fighters remain among the most recognizable of any individual combat aircraft of World War II, and they demonstrated innovative tactical victories when the news in the U.S. was filled with little more than stories of defeat at the hands of the Japanese forces.

The group first saw combat on 20 December 1941, 12 days after Pearl Harbor (local time). It achieved notable success during the lowest period of the war for U.S. and Allied Forces, giving hope to Americans that they would eventually succeed against the Japanese. While cross-referencing records after the war revealed their actual kill numbers were substantially lower, the Tigers were paid combat bonuses for destroying nearly 300 enemy aircraft,[1] while losing only 14 pilots on combat missions.[1] In July 1942, the AVG was replaced by the U.S. Army 23rd Fighter Group, which was later absorbed into the U.S. 14th Air Force with General Chennault as commander. The 23rd FG went on to achieve similar combat success, while retaining the nose art and fighting name of the volunteer unit.
 

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