Failed Terrorist State of Pakistan: Idiotic Musings

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They are/were never loyal to the "country", only to their religion.
It is the reason why they disassociate from their Indianness by saying muh ancestorz wuz Arab, Persian ,Turk, Mongol, Pathan.
Why they say Muslims speak a different language called Urdu( boomer excuse from independence era, but it was a product of the same mindset ).
It is also the reason why they oppose saying Vande Mataram and singing Jana Gana Mana.
This is seen as a Dar-ul-Harb that isn't converted yet, so they refuse to except that they are a part of a Kuffar nation.
This is the crux of the problem.


The ones here probably will get fucked here though if they try the stuff Arabs are doing in places like Lod in Israel.
And that is excluding the possibility of intelligence agencies nipping such problems in the bud.
About 85%of indian Muslims don't care for such things. They just want better standard of living and to earn daily livelihood. They have nothing to do anything with these topic.
Real problem is with 15%muslim who are radicalised and maulavi who have done thekedaari of Islam. They are trend setter in society. Most of people repeat what they say. Most of radicalistion takes place in madarasa and places like that where people have taken thekedaari of islam
 

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They are/were never loyal to the "country", only to their religion.
It is the reason why they disassociate from their Indianness by saying muh ancestorz wuz Arab, Persian ,Turk, Mongol, Pathan.
Why they say Muslims speak a different language called Urdu( boomer excuse from independence era, but it was a product of the same mindset ).
It is also the reason why they oppose saying Vande Mataram and singing Jana Gana Mana.
This is seen as a Dar-ul-Harb that isn't converted yet, so they refuse to except that they are a part of a Kuffar nation.
This is the crux of the problem.


The ones here probably will get fucked here though if they try the stuff Arabs are doing in places like Lod in Israel.
And that is excluding the possibility of intelligence agencies nipping such problems in the bud.
Although I agree totally with what you said
Generalizing is harmful,
I have a neighbor Naib Subedar Mohammed
Most rational thinking person I have ever met
Most members would go into Secular mode after they hear him talk
Very patriotic, and the least bit religious
 

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About 85%of indian Muslims don't care for such things. They just want better standard of living and to earn daily livelihood. They have nothing to do anything with these topic.
Real problem is with 15%muslim who are radicalised and maulavi who have done thekedaari of Islam. They are trend setter in society. Most of people repeat what they say. Most of radicalistion takes place in madarasa and places like that where people have taken thekedaar of islam
15% is 20 million people
Barely 3k individuals can hold Bangalore hostage after just a tweet(that too exact quote from the al-kitab)
20 million can make the majority shit their pants
 

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Although I agree totally with what you said
Generalizing is harmful,
I have a neighbor Naib Subedar Mohammed
Most rational thinking person I have ever met
Most members would go into Secular mode after they hear him talk
Very patriotic, and the least bit religious
I am not against Muslims, but religious fundamentalists doesnโ€™t matter whomsoever must be k!lled.
 

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About 85%of indian Muslims don't care for such things. They just want better standard of living and to earn daily livelihood. They have nothing to do anything with these topic.
Real problem is with 15%muslim who are radicalised and maulavi who have done thekedaari of Islam. They are trend setter in society. Most of people repeat what they say. Most of radicalistion takes place in madarasa and places like that where people have taken thekedaari of islam
The 85% will follow what the 15% dictate because what the 15% dictate is theologically sound, and they will never want to be seen as going against the Mazhab.
The thekedars of Islam say nothing different from what the book says, they are only true to what the book says and prescribes.

Ofc with a dedicated gormint backed "program" of some kind this hold can be broken, just as we don't have Bomb Blasts now but we used to during "secular" times, since security/intelligence agencies can do their jobs unimpeded.
 

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I am not against Muslims, but religious fundamentalists doesnโ€™t matter whomsoever must be k!lled.
This is what they call "snare the fundamentalists, but spare the fundamentals"
Who do you think are the true Mslims, non religious types like Naib Subedar sir, or kattar religious types
I have great respect for him
Which is not to say I can't see where the root of the problem remains
 

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This is what they call "snare the fundamentalists, but spare the fundamentals"
Who do you think are the true Mslims, non religious types like Naib Subedar sir, or kattar religious types
I have great respect for him
Which is not to say I can't see where the root of the problem remains
Real problem is with thekedaar of Islam (maulavis) who used to enjoy power and respect during mughal empire but due to coming of British Empire they have lost source of income and power. They firstly created Pakistan and then they want gazwa e hind.
You will always see these people glorifying mughal empire since it was golden age of them in terms of power. They used to provide mughal emporer with radicalised people as soldiers and in return they got power and riches. Now they have lost source of income and power so they focus to radicalize people and say you have arab ancestry ,turks ancestry, etc. They want power and nothing else
 

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This is what they call "snare the fundamentalists, but spare the fundamentals"
Who do you think are the true Mslims, non religious types like Naib Subedar sir, or kattar religious types
I have great respect for him
Which is not to say I can't see where the root of the problem remains
Your Naib Subedar is on the level of kuffars like your and me for the average holy and pious momin.
All across Afghanistan, Iraq, ISIS times Syria, those who oppose madness of the holy and pious meet their end by the sword, even tho they themselves may be muslims belonging to the same sect and praying in the same mosque.
 

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I am not against Muslims, but religious fundamentalists doesnโ€™t matter whomsoever must be k!lled.
the 'fundamentals' of islam are the problem.the muslim fundamentalists are the people following the true teachings of islam and those are the fundamentals.the moderate ones dont have a choice as they would identify themselves as not true followers if they oppose the fundamentalists view.we must make the fundamentals of islam illegal or forcefully change through law and statecraft like china such that is cut out of all the problematic parts and if then the fundamentalists use them as a handbook,we can gaslight them and the average believer with the edited version of the book.
 

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@Hariharan_kalarikkal the guy you named as per you will remain patriotic if government punish radicals from his religion but @Ayushraj tell me even if provided enough proof will the rest 85%will remain patriotic .


Those 15% are just voice of rest and reflection of their views , even if provided proof that their maulvi is involved in terrorist act will they back down .

Hiw many recognize their nationality above their religion , the Patriots you talk about are not ideal muslim , and the one radicals will kill before going after we kaffir .

This is the norm for quite long , we should focus on ghar wapasi of nationalist first , and then tackle jihadi
 

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About 85%of indian Muslims don't care for such things. They just want better standard of living and to earn daily livelihood. They have nothing to do anything with these topic.
Real problem is with 15%muslim who are radicalised and maulavi who have done thekedaari of Islam. They are trend setter in society. Most of people repeat what they say. Most of radicalistion takes place in madarasa and places like that where people have taken thekedaari of islam

U talkin about dem..
 

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@Hariharan_kalarikkal the guy you named as per you will remain patriotic if government punish radicals from his religion but @Ayushraj tell me even if provided enough proof will the rest 85%will remain patriotic .


Those 15% are just voice of rest and reflection of their views , even if provided proof that their maulvi is involved in terrorist act will they back down .
That maybe accurate
There are radical ideas everywhere on the SM now specifically aimed at making a divide and affecting Indian future


Hiw many recognize their nationality above their religion , the Patriots you talk about are not ideal muslim , and the one radicals will kill before going after we kaffir .
Only time will tell, our govt have to change the education policy and inject stuff In social sciences that doesn't make the yindu children ashamed of their culture but instead does it with the Peaceful kids

This is the norm for quite long , we should focus on ghar wapasi of nationalist first , and then tackle jihadi
Break the norm they say
Dedicated missionary activities can actually be fruitful, as we've seen in Russia and Poland, the white people dancing to our vedic hymns are just a feast for the eyes


But I'll say this, there is a ridiculous difference between fertility rates of different communities here, I myself live in a mslim majority neighborhood
Many of my relatives packed their bags to other states I myself am planning to do that
 

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That maybe accurate
There are radical ideas everywhere on the SM now specifically aimed at making a divide and affecting Indian future




Only time will tell, our govt have to change the education policy and inject stuff In social sciences that doesn't make the yindu children ashamed of their culture but instead does it with the Peaceful kids


Break the norm they say
Dedicated missionary activities can actually be fruitful, as we've seen in Russia and Poland, the white people dancing to our vedic hymns are just a feast for the eyes


But I'll say this, there is a ridiculous difference between fertility rates of different communities here, I myself live in a mslim majority neighborhood
Many of my relatives packed their bags to other states I myself am planning to do that
Fertility rate will be culled if you cancel all government benefit to them if children are more than 3, this will slow them down ,no haj allowance , no scholarship and admission to government college like jihadi nazi university , no kamputer , no cycle , nothing , this wil either straighten them up or they gonna be more marginalized ,and that would be great to tackle them ,either aay they would be curtailed
 

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Fertility rate will be culled if you cancel all government benefit to them if children are more than 3, this will slow them down ,no haj allowance , no scholarship and admission to government college like jihadi nazi university , no kamputer , no cycle , nothing , this wil either straighten them up or they gonna be more marginalized ,and that would be great to tackle them ,either aay they would be curtailed
Commie govt under pornrai would do that you think???? :rofl:

Only hope is to vote them out of power while we're still in majority, but those are just my wet dreams
 

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