EXCLUSIVE: Indonesia Gets In Line For India’s New AEW&C Jet

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Indonesia could be the first foreign customer for the DRDO-Embraer AEW&C system, designated Netra, within the next year, if interest from Jakarta is anything to go by. Livefist learns Indonesia, which first expressed interest in the system, has escalated its interest to a request for a systems demonstration, possibly in that country. The project has achieved initial operational clearance, with the first of two jets set to be handed over to its customer, the Indian Air Force, at the Aero India show — a terrific splash of an idea.

India’s DRDO has been ordered to aggressively and proactively pitch the new DRDO-Embraer AEW&C jet platform to foreign customers at Aero India 2017. With 52 countries at the show, the project team will hopefully have its hands full. Livefist can confirm the DRDO has received foreign interest (beyond preliminary enquiries) from Brazil itself, Israel and South Africa. “We have also received interest on just the sensor package developed by us for the platform, for fitment on other designated airborne platforms of countries in the interests of commonality or other compelling factors,” a member of the project told Livefist.

The AEW&CS (Air-Borne Early Warning and Control System) aircraft is based on a Brazilian manufactured Embraer ERJ-145 jet platform and has been cherished as ‘Netra’ by the forces. The aircraft following its induction will serve as the ears and eyes of the air force.

Three aerial platforms were acquired from Embraer at a cost of US $300 million. While the Indian Air Force (IAF) is set to acquire two aircrafts, CABS – the lead developer – will retain a single platform for further developments and testing.

‘Netra’ showcases a high amount of indigenous technology and has emerged as one of the biggest success stories of the developmental agencies.

The Phalcon systems which are based on fuel guzzling Il-76 aircraft are extremely costly for short-range targets. ‘Netra’ however is extremely cost efficient and will thus help the air force and its operations.

The development of an indigenous AEW&CS system has come off the ages of experience and data gathered by the developmental agencies. India under the ‘Airavat program’ in the late 90’s unsuccessfully tried developing an aerial surveillance platform. This however failed mid-way after the lone prototype and the test bed platform – a HS -748 aircraft – crashed during one of the test flights.

‘Netra’ utilising its highly advanced AESA radar systems and the electronic sensors can detect, identify, classify and track multiple targets at long ranges. Two radiating planar arrays which are fitted in an active antenna array unit can detect and track targets as far as 500 kilometres away.

The system can pick up both aerial and ground based targets and utilizing the secure communication links it can then transmit acquired data to air-borne and surface based friendly assets. The aircraft can operate in multiple modes notable among them are the search, track-while-scan and priority track modes.

The aircraft can provide the ground exploitation stations with solid ‘Recognisable Air Surveillance Picture’ and further guide fighters and missiles on long range targets with pin-point accuracy. ‘Netra’ will be capable of tracking hundreds of aerial and ground targets simultaneously and can further communicate and control at least 40 friendly aircraft.
http://www.defencenews.in/article.a...SIVEIndonesiaGetsInLineForIndiasNewAEWampCJet
 

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isnt there are close ties between indonesia and china ???

would it be okay to sell them ,

china could get to know about it .
 

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The deal could be more profitable if we try to sell the aew system on an indigenous plane,the nal saras program should be revived! :sad:
 
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The issue is if the EMB-145 can be re-ordered by India (even if it is for export) thanks to the corruption case in the US against EMB. This has now been settled out of court but I can only assume some babu somewhere would flag this up if an export deal was on the cards.

If an entirely new plane is to be used it will take years of testing and certification.
 

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The deal could be more profitable if we try to sell the aew system on an indigenous plane,the nal saras program should be revived! :sad:
Bro the SARAS is far too small for this radar to be fitted. And let's not look a gift horse in the mouth, even with a foreign jet this would be a HUGE win for India to have its system enter service with another country.
 

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This will be like India becoming a Value-added-reseller of Embraer planes!!
The Indian radar and systems will probably be just around 15% of the total cost of the plane. And Indonesia will probably order at the most 2-3 of these!!
Not sure if it's worth the time/effort. But surely, if Indonesia (or any other country) does buy it, it will give India/DRDO huge bragging rights and help build their brand!!!
 

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The issue is if the EMB-145 can be re-ordered by India (even if it is for export) thanks to the corruption case in the US against EMB. This has now been settled out of court but I can only assume some babu somewhere would flag this up if an export deal was on the cards.

If an entirely new plane is to be used it will take years of testing and certification.
Indonesia can buy the EMB 145 and India can integrate the radar.
 

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This will be like India becoming a Value-added-reseller of Embraer planes!!
The Indian radar and systems will probably be just around 15% of the total cost of the plane. And Indonesia will probably order at the most 2-3 of these!!
Not sure if it's worth the time/effort. But surely, if Indonesia (or any other country) does buy it, it will give India/DRDO huge bragging rights and help build their brand!!!
It will be invaluble to help build up after sales expertise (something India has very little knowledge) and besides with the IAF only really interested in the "big boy" Phalcon type AWACS export orders for the Netra will ensure the enourmous efforts spent on the Netra are not wasted.

+ will also help enourmously in expanding India's geopolitical reach

++ Something no offical will ever say but an Indian AEW system working in foreign lands will be potentially very valuble in helping India build up its own database of aircraft emissions.... wink wink
 

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This will be like India becoming a Value-added-reseller of Embraer planes!!
The Indian radar and systems will probably be just around 15% of the total cost of the plane. And Indonesia will probably order at the most 2-3 of these!!
Not sure if it's worth the time/effort. But surely, if Indonesia (or any other country) does buy it, it will give India/DRDO huge bragging rights and help build their brand!!!
Also, 15% of something is better than 100% of nothing.

India has very modest arms exports now, this needs to change. Grab every opportunity.
 

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++ Something no offical will ever say but an Indian AEW system working in foreign lands will be potentially very valuble in helping India build up its own database of aircraft emissions.... wink wink
HAHA...you think the client country will share all its data?

But I agree, any sale is good. Just hope that DRDO gets a piece of the Embraer pie also (if it's DRDO that's doing all the sales pitches!!)
 

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HAHA...you think the client country will share all its data?

But I agree, any sale is good. Just hope that DRDO gets a piece of the Embraer pie also (if it's DRDO that's doing all the sales pitches!!)

There are both over and covert ways of going about this, in some cases there will be an agreement to procure/transfer such threat databases to the user or vice versa but then there are other ways also..

These signatures will be stored on the mission computers supplied by the OEM and it is the OEM that is responsible for servicing such systems.
 

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OTE="HariPrasad-1, post: 1267907, member: 19302"]It is already been revived. ...........[/QUOTE]
Thx fr info:smile:
 

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Good news bhai, saras will fly soon
As I said here couple of days back, We are very much in a position to rectify whatever faults are there. What we need is to pursue this programme until it is operational. There were news that now it has sufficiently powerful engine available to fly in a position of failure of one engine. So programme is very mch on track and we should see it operational soon and ordered in big numbers.
 

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