I didn't ask for an emotional rant. You have miserably failed to contradict me.
There is nothing emotional about anything I said, on the other hand you made a false claim that “Europe as a whole wasn't ever hostage to foreign powers for past many thousand years.” I’m trying to keep it factual and professional, I’m not here to bash any individuals or races/countries. I’m only stating facts.
To recap and expand, i named the following countries: Italy, Spain, Hungry, Malta, Cyprus, Bulgaria, Serbia, Macedonia, Bosnia, Croatia, Romania, Poland-Lithuania, Armenia and Russia that Turks, Huns and Arabs, particularly the Umayyad Caliphate waged wars against. There are even countries like Finland, Sweden, Latvia, Czech Republic, Germany, Belgium, Ukraine and many more which I did not list that were under Hun occupation. I then gave timelines that debunked your claims about timelines where
parts of Europe was invaded and annexed as recently as 1974! Case in point Turkey annexing half of Cyprus. And alas let’s not forget how Turks stole half of Armenians land, invaded and took Constantinople (the hart of Christianity) and converted the most holy Church in Christianity to a mosque. To add injury to insult Azerbaijan last year stole more land from Armenia with Turkish help.
What did I fail? Just admit it you did not know about the history of Europeans being colonized but are too proud to admit it and now your only defense is to ignore everything I say, and claim.....and I quote: “you failed miserably to contradict me”. So again what was my failure? I countered your claim. Everything from the Liberian peninsula to Eastern Europe was under siege. I will provide links, maps and examples...the burden is now on you. You cannot rebuke a single thing I said because history, historians, and credible sources are on my side.
How much portion of Europe has been formed by Portugal, Spain and Eastern Europe?
What is this even supposed to mean? Portugal, Spain and Eastern Europe have all contributed greatly to science, engineering, mathematics, and literature. Or are those regions now not Europe? Europeans are very diverse people. The Spanish are just as European as English. Europeans were successful because of a culture of hard work, rigid discipline, education systems, beliefs, and a thirst to explore, question, improve, learn, and teach. It has little to do with IQ and even less with looks.
Since history is taught as it is in most part of world, you are supposed to provide the map of any non-European empire that has occupied larger parts of Europe in past 1000-1500 years.
Okay:
And I will even post links too:
https://www.arcgis.com › CascadeOttoman Empire Wars & Tumble Against Europe
https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wikiWeb resultsOttoman wars in Europe - Wikipedia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wikiWeb resultsCategory:Ottoman–Spanish conflicts - Wikipedia
Umayyad conquest of Hispania
They also invented modern languages, cannons trigonometry and complex mathematics.
What???? All European languages are based off Latin and Greek, those languages are from Europe. Do you think Europeans copied Chinese? The majority of modern mathematics are largely due to Greek and other European mathematicians. (Not to take away from other cultures).
Secondly, you said most inventions came from outside of Europe. So far you only named the cannon and math (which is largely thanks to the Greeks). I can list thousands of inventions from Europe or European decedents. If Arabs, Asians, Africans, ect were so advanced in math, engineering and inventions then how come they contributed so little? Where is all those great inventions? Did Africans, Japanese, Indians, Arabs, ect blast off to space, invent computers, invent automobiles, nuclear power, televisions, cell phones, cure polio? No...they didn’t, which is an indication that they were not as advanced as you give them credit for. Likewise if Europeans were so backwards they would not have made such achievements.
The post-industrial era things like jets, space travel, electronics, medication and automotives aren't exclusive to Europe.
Even the Japanese Ministry of International trade and Industry admitted 77% of “significant” world inventions came from just England and America, with Japan contributing 6%
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And where did those things originate from? Nearly every aircraft, Chinese, Indian, South Korean, ect is made with partnerships and technical assistance with Europeans. Or off the shelf parts are bought or in China’s case they just use theft.
In fact their relative share in Europe against world has been declining since innovation indices in eastern world are shooting up and industries are expanding.
Is that why Japan bought F-35s from America? Is that why South Korea asked the US to help them built their 5th generation aircraft? Is that why all those Asian countries buy US/European airliners? Hitch rides to space on European rockets and use technology such as solar panels, halo thrusters, and so on built by Europeans? Where did your prized Rafale and Sukhois come from? Did they come from Mars?
There is literally nothing that Europeans need from outside. Zero...It’s outside countries that constantly purchase things from Europeans or ask for assistance. Europeans are 100% self sufficient, most countries outside of Europe are not.
Most inventions even at that time from Europeans and foreigners within Europe and not Europeans in foreign world because of facilities in Europe. Soon as Japan and one by one others got on it, the exclusive advantage perished.
Again then why does Japan purchase American aircraft? Their space program relied on NASA and Russians. The technology that the United States, Russia, Britain, France, ect have is a fraction of what they show. Japanese has still to even build anything equivalent to an F-22 even though that aircraft dates back to the 1990s. The technology being developed or already developed in Europe or America especially secret military facilities is probably 50-100 years more advanced then what countries outside of Europe/US are about to develop or even conceive.
As told before, there is nothing distinct or advanced on European culture.
Much of modern mathematics are thanks to Greeks and European mathematicians and their formulas. Other important areas were Europeans have a strong and rich history is in literature, music, arts and engineering.
I can list hundreds more influential Europeans but these are just the few geniuses that changed the world. Many things you use are because of these people, many things you are taught are because of these people. Nothing advanced about European culture?
Leonardo da Vinci
Thomas Edison
Nikola Tesla
Isaac Newton
Galileo Galilei
Archimedes
Aristotle
Plato
Socrates
Beethoven
Mozart
Tchaikovsky
Korsakov
Korolev
Von Braun
Heisenberg
If it was, Europe wouldn't have been a laggard, constantly under mass murdering dictators, civil wars and blasphemy laws before industrial era. People who built whom are you boasting off were tortured badly at that time for apostasy, evolution theory or any new scientific concept or disagreement with religious books.
Every culture has had mass murdering dictators. History is obviously not a strong point for you. Chinese, Japanese, Native Americans, Arabs, Africans, indigenous South American tribes and so on have all had murders, dictators and sociopaths. To this day in places like China they have concentration camps, in the Middle East they still behead people. Hundreds of millions of people have been slaughtered by none Europeans over the centuries and it still happens today. There is a reason tens of millions of people have already legally or illegally got into Europe, America and Canada, with probably hundreds of millions wanting to one day get to those countries.
Do you think that history and achievements revolve around just few hundreds of year's?
And made those achievements because of infinite funding from colonies using their resources to gain more scientific knowledge while denying other humans from basic food and life.
European culture was so advanced that those scientist which apposed flat earth were killed? Those who opposed that earth revolve around sun were killed?
Let's don't get into self praising and understand real life terminology.
What about discoveries in mathematics or about theory of atoms and many other developments?
In few decades Chinese will most probably out power most of the European countries will that make them more superior than anyone else?
First off, European history dates back thousands of years on a few hundred, which tells me right off the bat you don’t anything about European history. To claim Europeans are only successful because of colonialism is nonsense considering Europeans were for a long time occupied and slaughtered by Ottomans, Huns, Arabs, and Persians. Europeans contributed more to scientists and medicine then any other groups. I have listened dozens of inventions, old and new that originated from Europe. You are now claiming Europeans contributed little and stole or funded their creations which is rubbish.
They were possible because old civilizations developed mathematics which is valid till date and not just number zero.
Then ancient civilizations had thier own philosophical works or political treatise or linguistic knowledge or medicinal science too.
Ever heard about charak shamita or shusruta samhita or their description of various surgical instruments, of various medicinal herbs to poisons tipped arrows to expected nature of doctors or nurses, ever heard of khwarizmi or al beruni ?
Thanks to arabs, europens could learn about modern things .
Its not your fault, you are taught history from a western point of view which sadly belittle other civilizations.
Though blacks cannot claim all these for they didn't do anything as such.
Chinese, indians , egyptian, arabs greeks and Roman's were major civilizations of ancient times.
Read what I wrote to the prior members. Europeans have been leading in the field of engineering, medicine and mathematics for thousands of years. You, just like other members here, are claiming the opposite. Yes other cultures contributed to medicine, engineering and math...or precisely created crude forms of math but Europeans by far dominated in those fields. Again I can name probably hundreds or thousands of European inventions (very important ones) yet you will struggle to name a dozen important inventions or breakthroughs outside of Europe. Everything from rubber to important vaccines to computers, to the periodic table of elements, and space travel, satellites, vehicles, aircraft, light bulbs, phones, ect came from Europeans. Europeans exported these things to the rest of the world while many foreign invaders looted Europe for thousands of years stealing some of the inventions from Europe. So it’s ironically the opposite, European inventions were stolen and adapted by foreign invaders like Arabs, Huns, Turks and Persians.
As for “western view” even the Japanese Ministry of International trade and Industry admitted 77% of “significant” world inventions came from just England and America, with Japan contributing 6%
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