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SIDM conference 2021, Society of Indian defence manufacturers.
was checking SIDM website for their research papers, from whatever little I saw all of them are KPMG authored documents promoting collaboration with foreign OEM, which makes this organisation created explicitly for promoting ToT screwdrivergiri.

if this organisation is promoting screwdriver giri, which organisation is championing domestic defence IP creation?
 

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How is rustom as compared to turkey
Range of Rustom 1 = 200 km
Range of Byraktar TB2 = 150 km

Flight altitude of Rustom 1 = 20,000 ft
Flight altitude of Byraktar TB2 = 26,000 ft (?)

Payload capacity of Rustom 1 = 100 kg
Payload capacity of Byraktar TB2 = 150 kg

Number of test flight trial by Rustom 1 = 65
Number of test flight trial by Byraktar TB2 = ??

The only saving grace of Byraktar is its Rotax-912 engine which is atleast two generation ahead of Lycoming-320. But even with a twice as heavy and old engine, we have achieved the as much comparability as Byraktar.
 

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Range of Rustom 1 = 200 km
Range of Byraktar TB2 = 150 km

Flight altitude of Rustom 1 = 20,000 ft
Flight altitude of Byraktar TB2 = 26,000 ft (?)

Payload capacity of Rustom 1 = 100 kg
Payload capacity of Byraktar TB2 = 150 kg

Number of test flight trial by Rustom 1 = 65
Number of test flight trial by Byraktar TB2 = ??

The only saving grace of Byraktar is its Rotax-912 engine which is atleast two generation ahead of Lycoming-320. But even with a twice as heavy and old engine, we have achieved the as much comparability as Byraktar.
I don't believe it I read that turkey was a drone superpower
 

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Range of Rustom 1 = 200 km
Range of Byraktar TB2 = 150 km

Flight altitude of Rustom 1 = 20,000 ft
Flight altitude of Byraktar TB2 = 26,000 ft (?)

Payload capacity of Rustom 1 = 100 kg
Payload capacity of Byraktar TB2 = 150 kg

Number of test flight trial by Rustom 1 = 65
Number of test flight trial by Byraktar TB2 = ??

The only saving grace of Byraktar is its Rotax-912 engine which is atleast two generation ahead of Lycoming-320. But even with a twice as heavy and old engine, we have achieved the as much comparability as Byraktar.
 

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DRDO tests Akash Prime missile


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It intercepts and destroys unmanned aerial target mimicking enemy aircraft

The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) on Monday successfully tested a new version of Akash Surface to Air missile Akash Prime from the Integrated Test Range at Chandipur, Odisha.
“In comparison to the existing Akash System, Akash Prime is equipped with an indigenous active Radio Frequency (RF) seeker for improved accuracy. Other improvements also ensure more reliable performance under low temperature environment at higher altitudes,” a DRDO statement said. A modified ground system of the existing Akash system had been used for the flight test, it stated.
In its maiden flight test after improvements, the missile intercepted and destroyed an unmanned aerial target mimicking enemy aircraft, the DRDO noted.
Congratulating the team on the successful flight test, DRDO Chairman Dr. G. Satheesh Reddy said Akash Prime would further boost the confidence of the Army and the Air Force.

 

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What are the two advanced versions of Akash missile?

The development of the Akash SAM was started by the DRDO in the late 1980s as part of the Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme. The initial systems trials and field trials along with the target neutralisation trials were conducted in the late 1990s and 2000s.

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The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) Monday conducted the maiden flight test of the new version of Akash Missile — Akash Prime. This comes months after the maiden test of another Akash version, Akash-NG (New Generation), in January. What’s different in these newer versions of the surface to air missile (SAM) and what is their operational significance?
The Akash missile
The development of the Akash SAM was started by the DRDO in the late 1980s as part of the Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme. The initial systems trials and field trials along with the target neutralisation trials were conducted in the late 1990s and 2000s. These were followed by extensive user trials by the Indian Air Force and Indian Army.

Named after the original Sanskrit term for sky or space, Akash is primarily a Short Range Surface to Air Missile built to provide air defence cover to the vulnerable areas. The Akash weapon system can simultaneously engage multiple targets in group mode or autonomous mode. It has built-in Electronic Counter-Counter Measures (ECCM) features, which means that it has mechanisms on-board that can counter the electronic systems that deceive the detection systems.


The entire weapon system has been configured on a mobile platform. A full Akash missile system comprises a launcher, set of missiles, a control centre, an built-in mission guidance system and a C4I (command, control communication and intelligence) centres and supporting ground equipment along with a radar named Rajendra which accompanies each of the missile batteries.



Following the induction of the earlier version of Akash in the 2010s, the Indian Air Force and Indian Army currently operate multiple squadrons and groups of the missile respectively, with some more in the pipeline. According to the Ministry of Defence, the Akash Missile system is 96 per cent indigenised, one of the highest proportions of the indigenisation. In December 2020, the cabinet approved the Akash missile for exports after many friendly foreign countries showed interest in it during various international exhibitions.


The advanced versions of Akash — Akash Prime and Akash NG


The initial version of the Akash has an operational range of 27-30 km and a flight altitude of around 18 km. The Akash Prime, which underwent its maiden flight test on Monday from Integrated Test Range (ITR), Chandipur, Odisha, has the same range as that of the earlier version but has a crucial new addition — that of an indigenous active Radio Frequency (RF) seeker for improved accuracy to hit aerial targets. Other improvements in the system ensures more reliable performance under low temperature environments at higher altitudes. These new additions have been made after receiving feedback from the IAF and the Army for deployment of the system to provide air defence cover for vital installations and sensitive areas in high-altitude regions.

Earlier this year, on January 25, the DRDO conducted the successful maiden launch of Akash-NG or New Generation Missile from ITR. Akash-NG is a new generation SAM, primarily designed for the IAF with an aim of intercepting high maneuvering aerial threats that have low Radar Cross Section (RCS), which is the electromagnetic signature of the object. Along with the increased lethality of striking threats with significantly small electromagnetic signature, the NG version has an extended range of up 70 km, is sleeker, lighter and has much smaller ground system footprint. The RF seeker of the NG version operates in the Microwave Ku-band, the missile has a propulsion system of solid-fueled dual-pulse motor. In July DRDO conducted two back-to-back trials of the Akash NG system, one with the RF seeker and one without it.


As an additional feature, Akash NG is canisterised, which means that it is stored and operated from specially designed compartments. In the canister, the inside environment is controlled thus along with making its transport and storage easier, the shelf life of weapons also improves significantly. The beginning of the development of Akash Prime and Akash-NG coincides with the time when the earlier version was being inducted in the IAF and Army in the mid-2010s


The operational significance of the new versions


A senior DRDO scientist said, “The earlier version of the Akash system did the important job of reducing the dependence on old air defence systems of Russian origin. The already inducted units of the Akash missile system now provide a robust air defence cover to vital installations of the defence forces. However, the nature of threats keeps evolving with time, and newer versions of the weapon systems have to be developed. The nature of the threats from the sky is such that they have to be responded to very fast and the task becomes technologically more complex when the threats are becoming less and less visible on the radar. Newer versions of the RF seekers, more robust computing and networking systems and command-control mechanisms are incorporated in these newer versions.”

The scientist added, “With advancement in material sciences, engineering techniques and better availability of components within India, the development cycles of the missiles have become significantly shorter than before.”


The Akash NG and Prime versions are slated to undergo extensive field and user trials before they are up for induction into armed forces. The Akash missiles have been developed by DRDO’s Defence Research and Development Laboratory (DRDL), Hyderabad under the Missiles and Strategic Systems (MSS), in collaboration with several other DRDO facilities in the country along with industry partners.

In a note on indigenous defence projects of the DRDO, the Ministry of Defence had said in 2018, “As a result of successful development production and induction of AKASH missiles system, Rs.34,500 crore foreign exchange could be saved by existing production order…”

 

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Ya'll Nibbiars This clear case of large business Ingoring new business development not just profit or loss. It's well knew that the Indian IT sector is a collie job and expect few firms like TCS, Wipro most spend not that much on R & D European IT Firm's have alreday invested heavily in the Drones software development and Communion Infrastructure. Not just that but in also new emerging new fields. You just don't spend R & D on Profit or Loss but on potentials.
And that potential is non existent here because of MoD babus. Defence contracts are extremely unpredictable in our country. Timelines are also unpredictable. Your defence company getting an order depends on an almost uneducated pan chewing babu . (Exaggeration , but you get an idea).
And even if they do get an order its piecemeal and too insignificant a number. Ex- Tonbo's low cost older tech night sights are ordered in low numbers by IA but not the newer advanced quad NVG's or even the smaller compact ones. The system is too slow, I mean signing Tejas Mk1A contract (just signing) took nearly 3 years ! Why should any pvt company invest in defence R&D which requires lot of money when there is no guarantee of return on investment ?
 

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Range of Rustom 1 = 200 km
Range of Byraktar TB2 = 150 km
This is the communication range.
For those countries without satellite communication support, that is maximum distance the plane can fly away from the ground control station.

Flight altitude of Rustom 1 = 20,000 ft
Flight altitude of Byraktar TB2 = 26,000 ft (?)

Payload capacity of Rustom 1 = 100 kg
Payload capacity of Byraktar TB2 = 150 kg

Number of test flight trial by Rustom 1 = 65
Number of test flight trial by Byraktar TB2 = ??

The only saving grace of Byraktar is its Rotax-912 engine which is atleast two generation ahead of Lycoming-320. But even with a twice as heavy and old engine, we have achieved the as much comparability as Byraktar.
No, the endurance hours of Bayraktar is 27 hours while Rutom-1 is only 12-14 hours (someone says 10 hours).
Turkey’s Bayraktar TB2 Strikes Target at Longest Range Yet (defenseworld.net)
Rustom Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) - Airforce Technology (airforce-technology.com)
Rustom-I UAV (globalsecurity.org)
 

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What is the issue with ATAGS? Is the weight more than what the Army mentioned in its requirements?

And why don't they simply sell the technology of Dhanush to a private manufacturer who can stick to timelines and quality? OFB needs to be sold off anyway(at least a lot of factories in the cluster), this might as well expedite the process.
IA wants a howitzer in 14 T category. ATAGS is of 18T category. Although it has been said that the weight could be brought down to 16 T. So lets see.

Transferring technology to any private player is not going to solve issue at the drop of a hat for Dhanush. Dhanush is more of a stop gap solution and it would not be ordered in numbers. So no private party would accept its order on face value alone. The cost in such a scenario would escalate many fold. So going to OFB is a logical action in case of Dhanush.
 

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