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ADE working on a UCAV which would be HALE and that's not ghatak ucav,a different project
Bas ab yehi baaki reh gaya tha...Rustom 1 ka koi pata nahi, Rustom 2 ka koi pata nahi, Tapas ka bhi koi pata nahi, Ghatak se Swift hogaya aur ab HALE kya [email protected]@pa hai yaar...ADE and DRDO pure desh ko acchi tarah bana rahe hai....end main lena to phoren hi hai..
 

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India plans to produce several hundred Mk1A, MWF, TEDBF, AMCA and possibly ORCA fighters. The Kaveri project has not resulted in an engine suitable for use in the Tejas, so all designs except AMCA Mk2 are planned to be powered by GE404 or GE414 engines giving the following thrusts:

GE404 53.9 kN (12,100 lbf) thrust dry, 90 kN (20,200 lbf) with afterburner
GE414 58.5 kN (13,200 lbf) thrust dry, 98 kN (22,000 lbf) with afterburner

GE engines are subject to the US government approving their export to India. Approval can be suspended or terminated for political or for economic reasons. This puts India in a precarious position.

How can India best find alternatives to using American engines? Current proposed possibilities are:

Collaboration with SAFRAN/RR to complete development of the Kaveri engine
Collaboration with RR to develop an engine to power AMCA

With an increase in wet thrust Kaveri would be suitable for Tejas and Tejas Mk1A but what is the likelihood of it being available before all Mk1A aircraft ordered by IAF have been delivered? If production versions of the engine are too late to use in Tejas Mk1A production, is it worth finishing Kaveri development?

A joint RR/Indian 110kN engine would be suitable for use in AMCA Mk2 and with Mk2 not scheduled for production until the 2030's, it could be available in good time for Mk2 production.

Should India bite the bullet and invest very heavily in securing the freedom to manufacture and further develop (having IP rights) these engines? What about substitution of GE414 with an Indian engine - should a power boosted Kaveri be developed or a derated version of the proposed new 110kN engine be used?
 

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India plans to produce several hundred Mk1A, MWF, TEDBF, AMCA and possibly ORCA fighters. The Kaveri project has not resulted in an engine suitable for use in the Tejas, so all designs except AMCA Mk2 are planned to be powered by GE404 or GE414 engines giving the following thrusts:

GE404 53.9 kN (12,100 lbf) thrust dry, 90 kN (20,200 lbf) with afterburner
GE414 58.5 kN (13,200 lbf) thrust dry, 98 kN (22,000 lbf) with afterburner

GE engines are subject to the US government approving their export to India. Approval can be suspended or terminated for political or for economic reasons. This puts India in a precarious position.

How can India best find alternatives to using American engines? Current proposed possibilities are:

Collaboration with SAFRAN/RR to complete development of the Kaveri engine
Collaboration with RR to develop an engine to power AMCA

With an increase in wet thrust Kaveri would be suitable for Tejas and Tejas Mk1A but what is the likelihood of it being available before all Mk1A aircraft ordered by IAF have been delivered? If production versions of the engine are too late to use in Tejas Mk1A production, is it worth finishing Kaveri development?

A joint RR/Indian 110kN engine would be suitable for use in AMCA Mk2 and with Mk2 not scheduled for production until the 2030's, it could be available in good time for Mk2 production.

Should India bite the bullet and invest very heavily in securing the freedom to manufacture and further develop (having IP rights) these engines? What about substitution of GE414 with an Indian engine - should a power boosted Kaveri be developed or a derated version of the proposed new 110kN engine be used?
Derated 110 kn class .


Kaveri for ghatak ucav ,dry variant .


Ip rights ,most needed , even if we pay another billion for it
 

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India plans to produce several hundred Mk1A, MWF, TEDBF, AMCA and possibly ORCA fighters. The Kaveri project has not resulted in an engine suitable for use in the Tejas, so all designs except AMCA Mk2 are planned to be powered by GE404 or GE414 engines giving the following thrusts:

GE404 53.9 kN (12,100 lbf) thrust dry, 90 kN (20,200 lbf) with afterburner
GE414 58.5 kN (13,200 lbf) thrust dry, 98 kN (22,000 lbf) with afterburner

GE engines are subject to the US government approving their export to India. Approval can be suspended or terminated for political or for economic reasons. This puts India in a precarious position.

How can India best find alternatives to using American engines? Current proposed possibilities are:

Collaboration with SAFRAN/RR to complete development of the Kaveri engine
Collaboration with RR to develop an engine to power AMCA

With an increase in wet thrust Kaveri would be suitable for Tejas and Tejas Mk1A but what is the likelihood of it being available before all Mk1A aircraft ordered by IAF have been delivered? If production versions of the engine are too late to use in Tejas Mk1A production, is it worth finishing Kaveri development?

A joint RR/Indian 110kN engine would be suitable for use in AMCA Mk2 and with Mk2 not scheduled for production until the 2030's, it could be available in good time for Mk2 production.

Should India bite the bullet and invest very heavily in securing the freedom to manufacture and further develop (having IP rights) these engines? What about substitution of GE414 with an Indian engine - should a power boosted Kaveri be developed or a derated version of the proposed new 110kN engine be used?
"Should India bit e the bullet to secure freedom .... "

Yes.
 

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