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[Lonewolf]

Mod should start a new thread regarding this , lets discuss all the options there.

Hope mod intervenes and shut this shit down

 

[t 90s]

Hope mod intervenes and shut this shit down

MOD is military , military is MOD now

 

[Lonewolf]

MOD is military , military is MOD now

Let's see ,you ruskie ??



Or import lonby kutta

 

[ladder]

One point regarding artillery import came to light .

Artillery of 152 calliber are already banned and date of ban was to be December 2020 according to 1st no import list.

There were rumours that date can be extended by 1 year to allow Athos import. But since 2nd list doesn't mention any such date extension the game might already be over for Athos. All these media article might just be last ditch effort by Israel lobby to shoe in.

152 is Russian calibre.

Nato is 155. We are looking at 155/52.

If 152 calibre is banned, it is of no consequence.

 

[Ayushraj]

Shakti torpedo
india is also developing a wire-guided thermal torpedo with mono-propellant for submarine
Shakti specifications (As reported)
Mode: Dual-purpose
Length:
Diameter: 533mm (21")
Range:
Speed: 60+ knots
Max Depth: 600 m
Warhead:
Propulsion: 400kw thermal driving a pumpjet
Main guidence: Wire-guided

 

[IndianHawk]

152 is Russian calibre.

Nato is 155. We are looking at 155/52.

If 152 calibre is banned, it is of no consequence.

Ya I mistyped in hurry. It's 155/52 which are banned .

 

[Tang]

WT

https://indianarmy.nic.in/writereaddata/RFI/791/RFI%20FRCV%20010621.pdf

Similar to the previous RFI issued in 2017.

They are demanding a 30:1 hp/ton power to weight ration. In addition:

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Seems like DRDO is ruled out and the RFI is tailor made for T-14 Armata.

There goes Atmanirbhar down the drain. No wonders tanks were excluded from the No import list 1 and 2.

WTH
This will be scrapped soon

 

[t 90s]

WT

WTH
This will be scrapped soon

nope

 

[Lonewolf]

nope

Who tf you

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

FRCV RFI will be scrapped that is for sure. Because UVZ won't just handover Armata IP to Indian strategic partner.

However, another RFI of similar nature will be issued in the next 2-3 years. And the cycle will go on.

Net result: Delay/kill the GNMBT and Arjun mk2 programme for this decade, and may be by the end of the decade go for emergency import of downgraded T-14S Armata (export model).

 

[Adrian Corvus]

Money , sanctions ,covid

I was wondering...shouldn't the aforementioned reasons(except COVID) have affected the R&D for T-14 too and ruskies are just not letting out the fact that T-14 is not as capable as they claim to be...

 

[t 90s]

I was wondering...shouldn't the aforementioned reasons(except COVID) have affected the R&D for T-14 too and ruskies are just not letting out the fact that T-14 is not as capable as they claim to be...

What does it lack ?

FRCV RFI will be scrapped that is for sure. Because UVZ won't just handover Armata IP to Indian strategic partner.

However, another RFI of similar nature will be issued in the next 2-3 years. And the cycle will go on.

Net result: Delay/kill the GNMBT and Arjun mk2 programme for this decade, and may be by the end of the decade go for emergency import of downgraded T-14S Armata (export model).

It won't be scrapped this time.

 

[Lonewolf]

What does it lack ?

It won't be scrapped this time.

Why you so pro t 14 armata , that's not in line with indigenization , too expensive , not much scope of indian equipment , not combat proven too , nor is too muc futuristic as it is portrayed

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

T-14 concept is not new. US rejected such concepts of remote controlled turret in 90s itself.

The problem with T-14 Armata is that that the protection of turret is minimal. Now Russians are claiming that their Afghanit APS is enough to take care of APFSDS round, not just HEAT rounds and RPGs.
If that is indeed the case, then what is the neccesity of frontal armour on the chassis? Surely Afghanit APS would have taken care of it.
Also, what happens when the number of rounds of Afghanit is exhausted. Then the tank is left with a vulnerable turret, till it manages to reload. Turret is damaged means mission kill.

So it really comes down to the armour doctrine of any country, is whether they want such a compromise.

 

[airstrike99]

Why you so pro t 14 armata , that's not in line with indigenization , too expensive , not much scope of indian equipment , not combat proven too , nor is too muc futuristic as it is portrayed

bro ignore him. he's just a larper in DFI that probably cleans armata tracks with his tongue.

 

[Adrian Corvus]

What does it lack ?

You make it sound like it's the most supreme MBT, being able to shoot a 1x1mm 2D alien on mars and having protection against direct nuclear attacks
Let's see for real when there's true deployment, fanboi
Besides that, T-14 is a fine tank on paper but one thing I felt it really lacking on paper is the coverage of it's Afghanit APS due to it being fixed to the turret

 

[airstrike99]

Why you so pro t 14 armata , that's not in line with indigenization , too expensive , not much scope of indian equipment , not combat proven too , nor is too muc futuristic as it is portrayed

1)without 70% TOT, MOD won't accept T-14.
2)current MOD with ninda-nath singh and mudi are against DGMF baaboos. and major army chiefs back mudi. except for DGMF's.
3)mudi pushed the 118 MK1A even though its not upto 2021 standards.
4)DRDO bureaucrats will put a tough fight against DGMF baaboos this time.

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

1)without 70% TOT, MOD won't accept T-14.
2)current MOD with ninda-nath singh and mudi are against DGMF baaboos. and major army chiefs back mudi. except for DGMF's.
3)mudi pushed the 118 MK1A even though its not upto 2021 standards.
4)DRDO bureaucrats will put a tough fight against DGMF baaboos this time.

Sometimes I think the tight leash on military by civilian bureaucracy have benefits which by far outweigh any other not so good things

 

[airstrike99]

You make it sound like it's the most supreme MBT, being able to shoot a 1x1mm alien on mars and having protection against direct nuclear attacks
Let's see for real when there's true deployment, fanboi
Besides that, T-14 is a fine tank on paper but one thing I felt it really lacking on paper is the coverage of it's Afghanit APS due to it being fixed to the turret

T-14 is basically a tin can 72 with 7 road wheels, bigger engine, better gun, hull crew pod and APS.

the side armour is soo bad.

it looks like someone slapped some empty metal boxes. poor build quality

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Best course of action should be , let drdo develop ngmbt further with experience gained from arjun.
Fauj should concentrate on upgrading t 90 to a high level atleast aps is bare minimum.
Plus upgarde t 72 also to ajeya mk2