DRDO, PSU and Private Defence Sector News

[India Super Power]

We should accept it that we can’t make drones, while even small countries like turkey can.

What those peedf are shouting, can anyone pls tell

 

[mist_consecutive]

Time to disband this money sucking shithole lab ADE.

I think its design flaw

Looks like not rustom 2 but ADE's performance till now is still shoddy

We should accept it that we can’t make drones, while even small countries like turkey can.

Why so much pessimism over a drone crash? Every weapon/platform goes through a testing phase where it fails multiple times and rectified so that it does not happen in operational times. Better to crash now rather than on the Pakistani border.

And drones generally have higher crash & failure rates overall, harder to control, low situational awareness, and communication issues.

But in general, I agree, DRDO is having unjustified difficulty over a technology that is being aced by private startups and even college kids.
We should look towards the private sector for making MALE UAVs and UCAVs.

 

[Ayushraj]

Why so much pessimism over a drone crash? Every weapon/platform goes through a testing phase where it fails multiple times and rectified so that it does not happen in operational times. Better to crash now rather than on the Pakistani border.

And drones generally have higher crash & failure rates overall, harder to control, low situational awareness, and communication issues.

But in general, I agree, DRDO is having unjustified difficulty over a technology that is being aced by private startups and even college kids.
We should look towards the private sector for making MALE UAVs and UCAVs.

Just like we bring in L $T for our nuclear submarine.
Sine barc and other psus were not able to complete arihant submarine and this caused delay.
But L$T did completed it in right way

 

[FalconSlayers]

Why so much pessimism over a drone crash? Every weapon/platform goes through a testing phase where it fails multiple times and rectified so that it does not happen in operational times. Better to crash now rather than on the Pakistani border.

And drones generally have higher crash & failure rates overall, harder to control, low situational awareness, and communication issues.

But in general, I agree, DRDO is having unjustified difficulty over a technology that is being aced by private startups and even college kids.
We should look towards the private sector for making MALE UAVs and UCAVs.

Lol how many we actually built? We are waiting for Rutoms in service for years, no induction till date and never will be.

 

[Anandhu Krishna]

SP-26 on finals .

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I love the overall finish and build quality. Things have improved over the initial IOC batch of Tejas .

All hail the lads at Tejas and Aircraft div .

Do we have a picture of sp25

 

[Indx TechStyle]

So a drone crash justifies closing down ADE? How many private firms have capability to make a single weaponed drone even close to Rustom?

Developmental and operational phases have crashes and we are new to the field too.

 

[Lonewolf]

So a drone crash justifies closing down ADE? How many private firms have capability to make a single weaponed drone even close to Rustom?

Developmental and operational phases have crashes and we are new to the field too.

Better merge it with ada , and work in partnership with newspace and new startup .

My fear us ghatak ucav is with ade , hope they don't fuck up royally , also nirbhay is a mess

 

[Alfalfa]

Just like we bring in L $T for our nuclear submarine.
Sine barc and other psus were not able to complete arihant submarine and this caused delay.
But L$T did completed it in right way

What on earth are you on about? Can you list out the exact weapon systems and subsytems L&T "completed"... the level of disinformation people spread here with such confidence is shocking..

L&T had almost no role to play in the ATV program

 

[Ayushraj]

So a drone crash justifies closing down ADE? How many private firms have capability to make a single weaponed drone even close to Rustom?

Developmental and operational phases have crashes and we are new to the field too.

Closing of ADE will cause us more damage since experience and learning is also lost
But we should involve private sector in uav

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Better merge it with ada , and work in partnership with newspace and new startup .

My fear us ghatak ucav is with ade , hope they don't fuck up royally , also nirbhay is a mess

Why bullshittery every time? Does ADA has a magic wand solve all the problems? Even post a merger, both will continue operations as it is. Since ADA is a design agency, not a technology company.

Nirbhay needed a lot of stabilisers, actuators and turbofans + avionics no other missile would have, and I don't wish to utter bad words for keyboard warriors going gaga over here for drone crash.

 

[Ayushraj]

What on earth are you on about? Can you list out the exact weapon systems and subsytems L&T "completed"... the level of disinformation people spread here with such confidence is shocking..

L&T had almost no role to play in the ATV program

Arihant was delayed for years because of our psus.
So L$T was stepped in
And now after getting project in right direction because of L$T . Now L$T is kicked out of project

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Closing of ADE will cause us more damage since experience and learning is also lost
But we should involve private sector in uav

Closing ADE means closing entire program (unlike our fanboys who believe that some magical agency will come with some different kind of technology and not rehold what ADE did).

Indeed we will, private sector is a decade away from doing what ADE can even with ADE's help. The string of mindless messages throughout page anyway is irritating.

ISRO, DRDO and ADA etc. aren't some exclusive bureaus who can do anything beyond their scopes. Their fields are different and they together are the representatives of Indian nationstate's technological capabilities. It's not like ISRO can do DRDO's job better. But it's like India has more success in space than defence industry. PSUs already communicate with each other if they actually have to source a technology from another.

ADE drone crahsed doesn't mean that LRDE will come to fix it.

 

[Alfalfa]

Arihant was delayed for years because of our psus.
So L$T was stepped in
And now after getting project in right direction because of L$T . Now L$T is kicked out of project

Again, none of this is true... I personally know people who oversaw the program and know people who work for L&T Defense both at Powai and Hazira... Can you name the exact systems and subsystems they helped with? Any backing claim or link for the same? no you can't because there isnt any.... repeating the same lie a 100 times doesnt make it the truth

 

[Ayushraj]

Again, none of this is true... I personally know people who oversaw the program and know people who work for L&T Defense both at Powai and Hazira... Can you name the exact systems and subsystems they helped with? Any backing claim or link for the same? no you can't because there isnt any.... repeating the same lie a 100 times doesnt make it the truth

L$T integrated nuclear reactor into submarine and work our psus were not able to do
So project delayed for 7-8 years

 

[Lonewolf]

Why bullshittery every time? Does ADA has a magic wand solve all the problems? Even post a merger, both will continue operations as it is. Since ADA is a design agency, not a technology company.

Nirbhay needed a lot of stabilisers, actuators and turbofans + avionics no other missile would have, and I don't wish to utter bad words for keyboard warriors going gaga over here for drone crash.

This is not just a out drone crash , they have done pretty hard work , but what they are doing is somewhat underperforming , yet are far ahead of private player but what harm would be giving specific workshare to some private partner , i am not in favour of shutting them rather use ada experience with aircraft designing to remove short comings in that part and better focus on other which they only have experience . Merger don't mean they will be assimilated fully but more interaction among the labs , what harm in it .

We used to criticize each and every drdo labs and then they proved them , but if ade can do it faster , then every possible effort should be made to make the product best suited for forces

 

[Willy3]

Xaxaxa... stupid ppl... it's not crash landing.

It's DRDOs new loitering ammunition.

 

[Willy3]

Some ppl have some kind of obsession anything of private sector.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

This is not just a out drone crash , they have done pretty hard work , but what they are doing is somewhat underperforming , yet are far ahead of private player but what harm would be giving specific workshare to some private partner

Harm is that private companies barely know anything on such technology. They are profit makers and not researchers and they will only take technology to produce for you. Government can sustained losses of many billions but a private firm won't survive a loss of even a few millions.

There are very few private companies in country will to take R&D. And till now, they only can make small UAVs. Our ecosystem isn't there yet.

Even at DRDO, things have matured with time and beared results, aircrafts, armaments, seekers, radars etc. all being produced within country. ISRO is dependent upon over 500 private factories, from spares to rocket engines. This is called creation of ecosystem. This takes time for any country who didn't even know how to make fertilizers after independence. Our critcism is of little value to any DRDO lab.

Jisme time lagna hai, lagega.

 

[Coalmine]

41000 LMG competition was also delayed by anil ambani s company not submitting their product and telling the army they need time but they say its an indigenous product.

But why army delayed it. Its their fault.

 

[Lonewolf]

Xaxaxa... stupid ppl... it's not crash landing.

It's DRDOs new loitering ammunition.

humko laga sachme crash h