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[NAMICA]

Similar system from tonbo.

 

[Deadtrap]

QRSAM successfullyl tested

 

[Karthi]

Indigenously-developed Quick Reaction Surface to Air Missile (QRSAM) System tested, hits Banshee Pilotless target aircraft at medium range & altitude. The missile launch took place from ITR Chandipur off the Odisha Coast.

 

[Arihant Roy]

This is DRDO's style of wishing us Indians a Happy Diwali.

Quick Reaction Surface to Air Missile (QRSAM) System has achieved a major milestone by a direct hit on to a Banshee Pilotless target aircraft at medium range & medium altitude.

The missile launch took place from ITR Chandipur on 13th Nov 2020 at 1550 hrs off the Odisha Coast. The missile is propelled by a single stage solid propellant rocket motor and uses all indigenous subsystems. The Missile is canisterised for transportation and launch using a mobile launcher capable of carrying 6 canisterised missiles.

All QRSAM weapon system elements like Battery Multifunction Radar, Battery Surveillance Radar, Battery Command Post Vehicle and Mobile Launcher were deployed in the flight test. The system is capable of detecting and tracking targets on the move and engaging target with short halts. The system is designed to give air defence coverage against strike columns of Indian Army.

The radar tracked the Banshee target from farthest range and missile was launched when target was within kill zone and achieved the direct hit with terminal active homing by RF Seeker guidance. Various DRDO labs DRDL, RCI, LRDE, R&DE(E), IRDE, ITR have participated in the test.

The weapon system elements have been realized through Defence PSUs BEL, BDL and private industry L&T. The missile system is fully indigenous with active RF Seekers, Electro Mechanical Actuation (EMA) systems sourced from various industries. The Radar is four walled Active Phased Array Radar. All range Tracking stations, Radar, EOTs & Telemetry Stations monitored the flight parameters.

Raksha Mantri Shri Rajnath Singh and Secretary DD R&D & Chairman DRDO Dr G Satheesh Reddy congratulated DRDO Scientists for the achievement.

 

[Arihant Roy]

Some important points here.

1. The Banshee target being talked of here is BTT-3. You people will already know it . The point here being in its actual form without any RCS enhancers, the target drone has a smaller RCS than most UCAV in the neighborhood. Notable being the Burraq and the much hyped Bayraktar TB-2 which the Porkis may buy in future.

2. The next important or rather the most important point being that the BSR tracked the Banshee from farthest range .

3. All the missile subsystems are of indigenous origin . The seeker is being produced by a private player . Most probably Data Patterns . BDL will play the role of lead integrator / final assembly of missiles. Like it does in case of Akash.

4. This may be the final developmental trial in full user configuration. Now user assisted tech trials will start .

 

[Arihant Roy]

A variant of this Ku band seeker is being used in the Qrsam. Economies of scale will be achieved since the same seeker or variants of it will be used in three missiles

Am certain that the end user, Indian Army has learnt the right lessons from the conflicts in Libya and NagornoKarabekh . It has certainly asked the DRDO to make the necessary changes or rather fine tune the radars and the missile for the low RCS UAV threat .

 

[Arihant Roy]

The configuration of a Qrsam regiment .

A single regiment will have three batteries. Each battery will have a single BSR , a single BCPV and four combat groups. Each combat group will have a single Bttlefld multi function radar paired with a single missile launch vehihcle.
So a single battery will have-
1. 1 BSR
2. 4 combat groups - 4 missile launch vehicles
4 BMFR which will track and provide fire control inputs plus mid course updates to Qrsam missile.

3. 24 ready to fire Qrsam missiles .


A single Qrsam regiment will have 72 ready to fire Qrsam missiles. A single combat group is by itself autonomous and it can also perform the role of surveillance and acquisition. It's a battlefield multifunction radar. So you can break a single regiment into several combat groups without degrading their potential. The BSR will serve as a long range surveillance plus early warning radar of sorts.

 

[Arihant Roy]

The pairing of a single battlefield multifunction radar with a single missile launch vehicle also ensures redundancy and solves saturation problems. Plus it severely complicates the sead options for the adversary since he will have to expand many more missiles or commit a larger no of jamming resources to degrade and neutralise a single Qrsam regiment .

This is just great. At facevalue it will look a massive waste of BMFR but it's a clever configuration .

 

[NAMICA]

 

[NAMICA]

 

[ArgonPrime]

Some important points here.

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1. The Banshee target being talked of here is BTT-3. You people will already know it . The point here being in its actual form without any RCS enhancers, the target drone has a smaller RCS than most UCAV in the neighborhood. Notable being the Burraq and the much hyped Bayraktar TB-2 which the Porkis may buy in future.

2. The next important or rather the most important point being that the BSR tracked the Banshee from farthest range .

3. All the missile subsystems are of indigenous origin . The seeker is being produced by a private player . Most probably Data Patterns . BDL will play the role of lead integrator / final assembly of missiles. Like it does in case of Akash.

4. This may be the final developmental trial in full user configuration. Now user assisted tech trials will start .

All's well but six per launch vehicle seems a bit low considering the mass and dimensions of the missile rounds. There are 20 missiles per launch vehicles in each of the Iron Dome launch vehicles, we should have been able to put at least a dozen missiles considering a Pinaka MBRl carries 12 rounds which are a lot bigger than the Astra missiles.

 

[Okabe Rintarou]

All's well but six per launch vehicle seems a bit low considering the mass and dimensions of the missile rounds. There are 20 missiles per launch vehicles in each of the Iron Dome launch vehicles, we should have been able to put at least a dozen missiles considering a Pinaka MBRl carries 12 rounds which are a lot bigger than the Astra missiles.

I guess the fact that Astra fins are not foldable, coupled with the requirement for rapid swivel of the launcher caused this? I hope this was not due to some stupid GSQR BS. Its certainly not a stabilization issue given that they are firing on short halts.

 

[ArgonPrime]

I guess the fact that Astra fins are not foldable, coupled with the requirement for rapid swivel of the launcher caused this? I hope this was not due to some stupid GSQR BS. Its certainly not a stabilization issue given that they are firing on short halts.

I think that's the primary reason, yeah. Hope they can make one with foldable fins.

 

[porky_kicker]

I guess the fact that Astra fins are not foldable, coupled with the requirement for rapid swivel of the launcher caused this? I hope this was not due to some stupid GSQR BS. Its certainly not a stabilization issue given that they are firing on short halts.

What has astra got to do with qrsam ?

6 missiles per launchers is enough

India is not Israel . Israeli has capabilities to destroy threats at standoff distance , actually even before it becomes a threat . While india doesn't . So increase load out will only increase cost of attrition.

Other than that increase in operational costs and SWaP constrains.

Plus it is a mobile platform which needs good cross country mobility.

 

[FalconZero]

After a detailed probe by a multi-agency Failure Investigation Committee, the ATAGS gun hs undergone changes and is ready to fire again, will be ready fr induction by April 2021.

 

[Shashank Nayak]

After a detailed probe by a multi-agency Failure Investigation Committee, the ATAGS gun hs undergone changes and is ready to fire again, will be ready fr induction by April 2021.

So, the problem was with the gun then ? When will the trials start again ?

 

[Arihant Roy]

The configuration of a Qrsam regiment .

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A single regiment will have three batteries. Each battery will have a single BSR , a single BCPV and four combat groups. Each combat group will have a single Bttlefld multi function radar paired with a single missile launch vehihcle.
So a single battery will have-
1. 1 BSR
2. 4 combat groups - 4 missile launch vehicles
4 BMFR which will track and provide fire control inputs plus mid course updates to Qrsam missile.

3. 24 ready to fire Qrsam missiles .


A single Qrsam regiment will have 72 ready to fire Qrsam missiles. A single combat group is by itself autonomous and it can also perform the role of surveillance and acquisition. It's a battlefield multifunction radar. So you can break a single regiment into several combat groups without degrading their potential. The BSR will serve as a long range surveillance plus early warning radar of sorts.

Made a mistake. Each Qrsam battery has its own BSR.

 

[ArgonPrime]

What has astra got to do with qrsam ?

Isn't the QRSAM based on Astra design??

6 missiles per launchers is enough

How do you know that??

India is not Israel . Israeli has capabilities to destroy threats at standoff distance , actually even before it becomes a threat . While india doesn't .

So do we, by using their stand off weapons like Spike 2000.

So increase load out will only increase cost of attrition.

And on the flip side, with this configuration, your launcher will run out of missiles faster and therefore, leaving itself and the assets it was supposed to be protected under the mercy of the invader, even if for a limited period of time.

Other than that increase in operational costs and SWaP constrains.

I don't think putting 12 missiles on a single lorry would be more expensive than putting 6 on two separate lorries.

Plus it is a mobile platform which needs good cross country mobility.

Barak 8 land mobile batteries carry 8 missiles per launch vehicles, which happens to be a lot heftier than the QRSAM rounds but they don't seem to be suffering from any mobility issues.

Pinaka's got 12 launch tubes per vehicle with bigger heavier rockets, they don't seem to suffer from such issues either.
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[India Super Power]

When will SMART missile will be inducted, and how will be integrated. I think extra vls will be added in destroyers and frigates(i don't know how).

 

[ezsasa]

When will SMART missile will be inducted, and how will be integrated. I think extra vls will be added in destroyers and frigates(i don't know how).

deployment of SMART may not be required on board a ship, if you look at the map, within bay of bengal, there is a tiny area(relatively) that is out of reach of shore launched SMART, which can be handled by P-8i.