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Did not see this posted here. Jindal Advanced Materials has tied up with an Italian company to build a large carbon fibre plant here. This has many uses in defence. Facility is coming up in Trichy.

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Looks like Jindal will beat reliance to this game. reliance has proposed a similar facility in Gujarat. They claimed their facility will be open in 2025, but i have not heard news of construction starting, or the tech partner (doubt reliance is doing any R&D)
 

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Did not see this posted here. Jindal Advanced Materials has tied up with an Italian company to build a large carbon fibre plant here. This has many uses in defence. Facility is coming up in Trichy.

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Looks like Jindal will beat reliance to this game. reliance has proposed a similar facility in Gujarat. They claimed their facility will be open in 2025, but i have not heard news of construction starting, or the tech partner (doubt reliance is doing any R&D)
I doubt Reliance would do anything for defense. Majority of the times they are mostly talk or boasting.
 

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I doubt Reliance would do anything for defense. Majority of the times they are mostly talk or boasting.
No guaranteed profits in defense, baniya no like dis.
Besides most private sector suit boots have competencies in industries adjacent to defence, like Kalyani forge, Tata motors, Mahindra.

The competencies of reliance are in refined petroleum products, telecom and buying Foodbazaar wagera from the fool Biyani at a bargain basement price.

Ambani would rather (((invest))) the money into buying expensive properties in England or Europe rather than put money in a not-profitable-at-the-start venture like defence, ESDM or semiconductors.
 

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No guaranteed profits in defense, baniya no like dis.
Besides most private sector suit boots have competencies in industries adjacent to defence, like Kalyani forge, Tata motors, Mahindra.

The competencies of reliance are in refined petroleum products, telecom and buying Foodbazaar wagera from the fool Biyani at a bargain basement price.

Ambani would rather (((invest))) the money into buying expensive properties in England or Europe rather than put money in a not-profitable-at-the-start venture like defence, ESDM or semiconductors.
well i assume you know how much dalali used to happen in the past and some in present too when the dalali decreased privates started migrating in defence sector but long term investment is inversly proportional to dalali and foreign mall fetish
arjun ,tejas(nearly),drdo ifv abhay, hal marut all of em died in shade of dalali how would privates invest like that
situation is changing but rather very slowly or i would say a mediocre pace so does the private particpation in defence too tata is investing billions in semiconductors (which would eventually get into defence) and similarly startups are rising in number like sssd,edith,dg propulsions etc i would say wait for 5-10years to get the real big picture
 

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well i assume you know how much dalali used to happen in the past and some in present too when the dalali decreased privates started migrating in defence sector but long term investment is inversly proportional to dalali and foreign mall fetish
arjun ,tejas(nearly),drdo ifv abhay, hal marut all of em died in shade of dalali how would privates invest like that
situation is changing but rather very slowly or i would say a mediocre pace so does the private particpation in defence too tata is investing billions in semiconductors (which would eventually get into defence) and similarly startups are rising in number like sssd,edith,dg propulsions etc i would say wait for a decade or two to get the real big picture
Point is Ambani is very risk averse yet wants the big profits, it's not a private sector problem it's an Ambani problem.
The matter of dalali is serious but that didn't stop Tata, Mahindra, Kalyani from stepping in, even L&T is trying to get the Spanish submarine tender.
 

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Point is Ambani is very risk averse yet wants the big profits, it's not a private sector problem it's an Ambani problem.
The matter of dalali is serious but that didn't stop Tata, Mahindra, Kalyani from stepping in, even L&T is trying to get the Spanish submarine tender.
see ambani's forte from years is service based like jio petrochemicals and all
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tata the produced steel ,electronics,engines,and all thing under the sun so its easy for them to get the cost benefit here

similarly kalyani was a metallurgical giant with baba kalyani himself saying this very often that metallurgy is their advantage so similarly they got into barrel and ammo manufacturing

solar industries were originally producing explosive for mining from that they started making rockets ammo and bombs

lnt is also a settled player in defence for years much like kalyani

while the wild cards here are the adani which set up large ammo factory and all and are gaining experience with elbit systems ltd from israel (the screwdriver kings hehe)
 

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Point is Ambani is very risk averse yet wants the big profits, it's not a private sector problem it's an Ambani problem.
The matter of dalali is serious but that didn't stop Tata, Mahindra, Kalyani from stepping in, even L&T is trying to get the Spanish submarine tender.
Look at Jio for example. It was extreme risk and yet he invested heavily. So, it is not true that he is risk averse. But Ambani does not have any manufacturing knowledge or understanding. The only thing Ambanis ever manufactured was clothes (Vimal). Asking to suddenly step into manufacturing will be difficult. Reliance is good at trading, negotiating, petrochemicals, telecom etc as they have done it in the past. Anything else will be difficult
 

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see ambani's forte from years is service based like jio petrochemicals and all
while for
tata the produced steel ,electronics,engines,and all thing under the sun so its easy for them to get the cost benefit here

similarly kalyani was a metallurgical giant with baba kalyani himself saying this very often that metallurgy is their advantage so similarly they got into barrel and ammo manufacturing

solar industries were originally producing explosive for mining from that they started making rockets ammo and bombs

lnt is also a settled player in defence for years much like kalyani

while the wild cards here are the adani which set up large ammo factory and all and are gaining experience with elbit systems ltd from israel (the screwdriver kings hehe)
Adani is even being dcpp for drdo in many missile and pgm related projects
 

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DRDO's been hot lately with several future-proof X Projects and you should be all proud of them.

Just don't reveal anything new in SM platforms without thinking twice. As results are still being achieved without our eyes on it. There's really no need to put extra-efforts to investigate DRDO's secret affairs, but even when you do, don't post about sensitive advanced weaponry tech progress publicly, or atleast redact it's infos to a mininum. Afterall... Nobody wants to be an useful idiot for the enemy. Ain't it?

That's all I have to say...
 

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DRDO's been hot lately with several future-proof X Projects and you should be all proud of them.

Just don't reveal anything new in SM platforms without thinking twice. As results are still being achieved without our eyes on it. There's really no need to put extra-efforts to investigate DRDO's secret affairs, but even when you do, don't post about sensitive advanced weaponry tech progress publicly, or atleast redact it's infos to a mininum. Afterall... Nobody wants to be an useful idiot for the enemy. Ain't it?

That's all I have to say...
What are those future-proof X projects? Not trying to be cynical but are we praising them for performing bare minimum because our prior standards, performance and expectations are so low? Or is drdo definitely turned into premier like going extra mile to do stuff?
 

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even if we assume there are such ideas out there, those can be taken seriously only when they come from established players (DPSU + private) who are already part of the industry. otherwise it will end up looking like that fellow who is showing off his bomber uav past week.

solar industries bhargavastra falls in the innovation category you are thinking of?

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Who not a single shotgun turret?.. or proximity-burst grenades
 

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What are those future-proof X projects? Not trying to be cynical but are we praising them for performing bare minimum because our prior standards, performance and expectations are so low? Or is drdo definitely turned into premier like going extra mile to do stuff?
Every experiments bears useful results. There's proper serious effort given on it. Army's dilemma aside... What appears to be slow progress in last few years is bcoz of DRDO's "know how" & "know why" efforts on their own indigenous tech prototypes & validating it. It's all part of R&D. And they are being positive on discovering & working on radically new techs & concepts. DRDO's vision is crystal clear and they are proud of it.
 
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