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[NoobWannaLearn]

Where are all the 480p boomers in DRDO when I need to see some pictures of the Zorawar

Maybe 26 Jan

 

[mamamia12]

So any member here can tell me does this adani guy manufacturing(assembling?) drone here rebadged as drishti something, does he manufacture the individual components from scratch from commodities(Raw materials) to final product or he just assembles the knocked down ikea like kits.

 

[arkos]

So any member here can tell me does this adani guy manufacturing(assembling?) drone here rebadged as drishti something, does he manufacture the individual components from scratch from commodities(Raw materials) to final product or he just assembles the knocked down ikea like kits.

The factory shall start operations with the manufacturing of complete carbon composite aerostructures for Hermes 900, followed by Hermes 450, catering to the global markets and will be further ramped up for the assembly and integration of complete UAVs.

https://www.adanidefence.com/newsro...stems-inaugurate-india-first-private-unmanned

 

[mamamia12]

The factory shall start operations with the manufacturing of complete carbon composite aerostructures for Hermes 900, followed by Hermes 450, catering to the global markets and will be further ramped up for the assembly and integration of complete UAVs.

https://www.adanidefence.com/newsro...stems-inaugurate-india-first-private-unmanned

So except body all the electronics and engine are imported right? or are there any suppliers of such systems here in India?

 

[Covfefe]

The only Stryker variant army is currently interested in, is the M-SHORAD.
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Which missile on this system?

Seems counterintuitive to add a new platform for a capability that can be added onto a common existing platform.

 

[Corvus Splendens]

Which missile on this system?

Seems counterintuitive to add a new platform for a capability that can be added onto a common existing platform.

Stingers and Hellfires.

 

[Gyyan]

sauce. since google reverse image doest return any info

Sauce feels like I made it up type but here u go

https://x.com/Firezstarter1/status/1744565037833081128?s=20

 

[SilentlAssassin265]

Sauce feels like I made it up type but here u go

https://x.com/Firezstarter1/status/1744565037833081128?s=20

So in conclusion subsonic cruise missiles are useless if air defence is there?

 

[Tridev123]

So in conclusion subsonic cruise missiles are useless if air defence is there?

My observation
1.Subsonic cruise missiles usually being cheaper can be used for more frequent saturation(salvo) missile attacks to overwhelm any defences.

2.If an almost 20 tonnes empty weight F22 Raptor can have an frontal RCS of 0.0001 sq. m (appx)then would it be very difficult to design an stealthy subsonic cruise missile with the RCS of a large bird.
An very low observable subsonic cruise missile could just slip past defensive networks.

Also no air defence system can be 100% effective.
There will be a failure percentage. So cannot rule out an subsonic cruise missile succeeding.

Or send out a barrage of 3 missiles(appx) with two acting as decoys.Perhaps one missile can be configured exclusively for a radar jamming role(Aesa radars are more difficult to jam).One missile can even release chaff to confuse the radar while the actual missile with the warhead approaches from a different direction.
So some options maybe available to increase the chance of success.

 

[Chinmoy]

Yet we've indigenized the fuel which we were importing for 25 yrs since the start of the JV. Interesting , no ?

Only now because of LFRJ, the requirement has arise for Liquid Fuel. So it has nothing to do with indigenizing BRAHMOS fuel basically.

 

[Chinmoy]

So in conclusion subsonic cruise missiles are useless if air defence is there?

Not really.

What we all fail to understand is, if you can see it, you can shoot it. In that sense, we should be able to target a Hypersonic missile more easily then a Supersonic one. But is that the case?

Interception depends on firing solution. If you have a good firing solution along with good interceptors, you could intercept any kind of threat anywhere. So what makes a supersonic or hypersonic missile much more of a threat then a subsonic one is that even if you detect it, you don't have a firing solution fast enough to target it.
Same is true for a subsonic missile too. They do use terrain masking and decoy to buy more and more time.

 

[Azaad]

Only now because of LFRJ, the requirement has arise for Liquid Fuel. So it has nothing to do with indigenizing BRAHMOS fuel basically.

What?? The Brahmos hasn't always been a 2 stage missile with solid booster rocket in its 1st stage & LFRJ in its 2nd stage , you mean?

 

[karn]

What?? The Brahmos hasn't always been a 2 stage missile with solid booster rocket in its 1st stage & LFRJ in its 2nd stage , you mean?

Perhaps for the STAR missile ?

 

[Gyyan]

So in conclusion subsonic cruise missiles are useless if air defence is there?

IMO they are probably easier to intercept than supersonic and hypersonic ones.
There should be reason why we have seen some Russian missiles with chaff.

 

[binayak95]

So in conclusion subsonic cruise missiles are useless if air defence is there?

Not if you have given the subsonic cruise missile RCS reduction measures. Shaping/profiling/RAM paint.

 

[binayak95]

IMO they are probably easier to intercept than supersonic and hypersonic ones.
There should be reason why we have seen some Russian missiles with chaff.

Even Indian missiles have provision for countermeasures.

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

 

[TopWatcher]

 

[Azaad]

Perhaps for the STAR missile ?

I got that but he seems to be insisting that in a JV we've to respect workshare agreements which doesn't matter in a ToT though the one we signed with Russia for the MKI specifically required us to import certain key assemblies / sub assemblies or raw materials from them which over a period of time , we gradually by passed & are mfg indigenously out here.

Hence as per him no modifications / alterations in the workshare agreements in a JV yet we've graduated to replacing the liquid propellant in the RAMJET Engine. How long before we replace the RAMJET engine itself ?

 

[karn]

I got that but he seems to be insisting that in a JV we've to respect workshare agreements which doesn't matter in a ToT though the one we signed with Russia for the MKI specifically required us to import certain key assemblies / sub assemblies or raw materials from them which over a period of time , we gradually by passed & are mfg indigenously out here.

Hence as per him no modifications / alterations in the workshare agreements in a JV yet we've graduated to replacing the liquid propellant in the RAMJET Engine. How long before we replace the RAMJET engine itself ?

I'm not sure who said it but it seems that there is some agreement with Russia that drdo won't develop its own liquid ramjet cruise missile. Hence IMO star is a sneaky way to start development while keeping to the agreement.
It's kinda like how ISRO developed "isrosene" during the he development of sce 200.