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If this is pertaining to TASL not investing much in R&D , pls note that the Tata group is notorious as a fiscally conservative group .

As opposed to other baniya business houses they are willing to spend on R&D but they would want 100% assured results failing which the team & team leader would've had it & anybody associated with R&D will tell you can't be committed first up.

Result - TASL & other Tata group cos will be miserly when it comes to opening up their purse strings for such activities. Baniya cos won't even bother with R&D.

Do , what we have is a choice between the devil & the deep blue sea.
 

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dont know where to put in which thred.
umm... subtracting fuel required for Take off and Landing.. what is the fuel fraction left for intercept? What is the maximum height achieved by it? What advantage does it have over QRSAM - other than reusability? How is it guided towards threat?
 

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If this is pertaining to TASL not investing much in R&D , pls note that the Tata group is notorious as a fiscally conservative group .

As opposed to other baniya business houses they are willing to spend on R&D but they would want 100% assured results failing which the team & team leader would've had it & anybody associated with R&D will tell you can't be committed first up.

Result - TASL & other Tata group cos will be miserly when it comes to opening up their purse strings for such activities. Baniya cos won't even bother with R&D.

Do , what we have is a choice between the devil & the deep blue sea.
Tata group is a bhikhari group with cult following because of its funding to PR agencies and libcukc institutions.
BC 60 saal se bus aur truck bana rahe hain , ek 250hp ka engine nahi bana paye jo QRFV me kaam aa jaye
 

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If this is pertaining to TASL not investing much in R&D , pls note that the Tata group is notorious as a fiscally conservative group .

As opposed to other baniya business houses they are willing to spend on R&D but they would want 100% assured results failing which the team & team leader would've had it & anybody associated with R&D will tell you can't be committed first up.

Result - TASL & other Tata group cos will be miserly when it comes to opening up their purse strings for such activities. Baniya cos won't even bother with R&D.

Do , what we have is a choice between the devil & the deep blue sea.
No private company will ever spend on R&D on their own will. Even in USA, the private firms are funded by government to do R&D> This is why people speak against capitalism. It just results in socialisation of cost and privatisation of profits
 

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No private company will ever spend on R&D on their own will. Even in USA, the private firms are funded by government to do R&D> This is why people speak against capitalism. It just results in socialisation of cost and privatisation of profits
Depends on the kind of project the company undertakes. MoD has its own funding mechanism. Question is whether they're for projects TASL is undertaking & whether TASL is interested in projects the MoD is willing to fund .

There also has to be some initiative on the part of the contractor towards investment into R&D. Not everything can be provided for by the MoD & if an organisation like TASL with the kind of pedigree it enjoys is unwilling for some reason to invest in R&D then what can one say .
 

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No private company will ever spend on R&D on their own will. Even in USA, the private firms are funded by government to do R&D> This is why people speak against capitalism. It just results in socialisation of cost and privatisation of profits
For how many years Tata group has been a powerhouse in Indian Business space??

How many govt projects they get on regular basis??

For how many years they are in manufacturing of heavy vehicles?

How much funding they need to come up with even 200-250 HP indigenous engine.

during late 90s and early 2000s Both Tata and Mahindra group took help from a Design firm in Europe to make their new Diesel and petrol engines, Mahindra over time refined and evolved both the engines but Tata moved down to 3 pot engines.
 

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It'd function as an air to air , air to ground anti drone , anti armour platform as well as a loitering munition. It's not a substitute for MANPAD.
Ok.. for an anti drone, anti tank modular weapon it looks expensive giving Stark industries vibe. Only rich militaries can afford
 

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Tata group is a bhikhari group with cult following because of its funding to PR agencies and libcukc institutions.
BC 60 saal se bus aur truck bana rahe hain , ek 250hp ka engine nahi bana paye jo QRFV me kaam aa jaye
Truck bhi jhaant barabar banate hain
Engine IP with US, manufactured by Cummins
They only started gaining some aesthetic sense by partnering with Brazilian Marco Polo for body building on the same chassis they used for trucks(ironically they had partnered with Benz before that but their culture didn't change at all). Their truck's upfront cost is low, and spare parts are easily available- trucking as a whole is an industry of network- from Tata to Castrol they all know this.

Hard to expect innovation from group companies where top leadership is essentially only bureaucrats (they literally have 'TAS' like pvt sector ka IAS🌝- general management buggers who hold key positions in Tata Sons group)
 

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Truck bhi jhaant barabar banate hain
Engine IP with US, manufactured by Cummins
They only started gaining some aesthetic sense by partnering with Brazilian Marco Polo for body building on the same chassis they used for trucks(ironically they had partnered with Benz before that but their culture didn't change at all). Their truck's upfront cost is low, and spare parts are easily available- trucking as a whole is an industry of network- from Tata to Castrol they all know this.

Hard to expect innovation from group companies where top leadership is essentially only bureaucrats (they literally have 'TAS' like pvt sector ka IAS🌝- general management buggers who hold key positions in Tata Sons group)
Smaller startups has done million times better work than these so called giants in terms of defence newspace,zen technologies,Sagar defence all are showing these companies how it's done
 

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