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[Chinmoy]

Doesn't it look a bit like the typical SHCHEL-3UM?

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Not surprising . These are the first HMDS we used. So its impression is bound to be seen.

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

 

[standard snowball]

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Can this be compared to DASH IV or not.
Cause our looks very crude and unpolished.
Looks very basic in comparison to DASH IV

 

[Chinmoy]

Can this be compared to DASH IV or not.
Cause our looks very crude and unpolished.
Looks very basic in comparison to DASH IV

Only if looks could kill.

 

[standard snowball]

Only if looks could kill.

Actually yes looks do kill, ergonomics is and should be an important factor, if the pilot is not comfortable in it then his efficiency will significantly drop which is not a good thing.

 

[Chinmoy]

Actually yes looks do kill, ergonomics is and should be an important factor, if the pilot is not comfortable in it then his efficiency will significantly drop which is not a good thing.

 

[FireStar]

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they could take some inspiration from dash4 and improve upon it. No offence, but it looks a bit too rudimentary. It's like you have made an helmet because you were forced to make it. Pretty sure they didn't even bother to benchmark it.

 

[standard snowball]

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All it talks about is faster production time, no mention of ergonomics or anything, adding padding to a helmet doesn't make it more comfortable, weight distribution, ease of use, technological capability etc are also very important factors

 

[Chinmoy]

All it talks about is faster production time, no mention of ergonomics or anything, adding padding to a helmet doesn't make it more comfortable, weight distribution, ease of use, technological capability etc are also very important factors

How a DASH works?

 

[Lonewarrior]

Only if looks could kill.

If by looks you mean the view a pilot gets while looking through the HMD then ya, looks can kill
SHCHEL-3UM

DASH III

 

[Kuldeepm952]

While everyone here forgetting the difference between a HMS and HMDS.
Looking at a HMS and comparing it to a HMDS .

 

[jai jaganath]

And why you think so?

Achieving 30000 feets is not difficult but getting desirable performance of all systems at that altitude is the issue
Now that's not possible with piston engine infact many drones in its league have such capability
So they will have to shift to Shakti engine type or other necessary ones thus going through trails again then certifications then all those shits then user trails
If they achieve with current engine then great if not then it's basically 4-5 years more that's basically killing the project

 

[Lonewarrior]

While everyone here forgetting the difference between a HMS and HMDS.
Looking at a HMS and comparing it to a HMDS .

Totally agree, everyone has forgotten...
...starting from DRDO themselves

If you're selling something saying HMDS and then expecting everyone to judge it against a HMS then how's that fair!

Moreover in current era no one's going for a HMS anymore, the current trend is of HMDS. So isn't that what you should make?

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Are to article bhi de deta atleast I could have gotten some copium for one of my favourite upcoming projects

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

 

[DumbPilot]

If by looks you mean the view a pilot gets while looking through the HMD then ya, looks can kill
SHCHEL-3UM
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DASH III
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SHCHEL-3UM is significantly limited in what sort of data it can present unfortunately. AFAIK it only allows a HOBS seekerhead slaving cue, compared to Elbit DASH or the European/American HMCS, which offer a lot lot more data. According to a USAF pilot I know, the Schel 3UM is basically trash in this regard, so it would be nice if we can upgrade to DASH standards.

 

[iNorthernerOn9]

Totally agree, everyone has forgotten...
...starting from DRDO themselves
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If you're selling something saying HMDS and then expecting everyone to judge it against a HMS then how's that fair!

Moreover in current era no one's going for a HMS anymore, the current trend is of HMDS. So isn't that what you should make?

No airforce in the world except for the one which is a captive customer of DRDO/PSU will ever induct this piece of shit in this bloody 21st century

It would be better if BEL or someone else license produces the DASH or Targo series if there is such itch to manufacture such a thing here.

 

[standard snowball]

How a DASH works?

Ok let's see how outdated this DRDO HMDS is

1. It's weight distribution is horrible, too much weight on the front portion which ideally should have been at the back.

2. Wiring is horrible, see the quality of the protruding wire, (you won't even use that type of wire in your own house), not to mention that wire shouldn't even be on the outside in the first place.

3. The internal padding is not ergonomic and optimised properly (eg. excessive padding near the ears) causing wearer a great amount of discomfort.

4. The visor glass is of poor quality (will be unable to provide proper protection against sun rays, because of poor tinting)

5. Modern HMDS don't use monocles (I am unable to remember the correct word right now, so please make do with this word) they use dual glass panels (visors) who display information to both eyes in a digital format like this

and not like this

indicating it's a technologically obsolete design

6. No integrated microphone, inside the helmet, and the currently attached microphone seems very cumbersome.

 

[Lonewarrior]

To sum up this whole issue...

One chose SHCHEL-3UM to copy it's HMS and other chose F35 HMDS...that's both the similarity and difference between Indian and Turkish defence R&D

 

[Lonewolf]

To sum up this whole issue...

One chose SHCHEL-3UM to copy it's HMS and other chose F35 HMDS...that's both the similarity and difference between Indian and Turkish defence R&D

You sure this is the final product and not a prototype