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[SwordOfDarkness]

There are literally multiple ATGMs available on the market:-
NAG
MP-ATGM
Amogha-3
AsiBal

and yet these guys want more.

Wrong post

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

@SwordOfDarkness this was what I was talking about archer ng or tapas was my guess

Hmm. I thought they would use it like they do for MQ-9 that they have, shore based for intelligence and tracking.

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

Wrong post

Thanks

 

[Lonewarrior]

Elaborate this...

I got a project approved for a military - centric project

...coz I've first hand experience of all the other things...sedly except IIT...you mentioned

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Hmm. I thought they would use it like they do for MQ-9 that they have, shore based for intelligence and tracking.

I would have thought the same until that statement came if we will have uav dedicated fleet on next carrier makes sense for archer ng to be there

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

I really would like to know what stuff these guys were smoking while bringing up these weight requirements.

Spike ER, an ATGM which can strike targets 8km away has a weight of 34kg and the launcher weighs another 30kg.
Thats 64kg in total.

 

[Lonewarrior]

But Skunk works is known for using and reusing again and again already developed subsystems and processes. In fact, it was one of Kelly Johnson's 11 basic rules of engineering: "don't reinvent the wheel, reuse things if you can"
Believe me, I know. Kelly is smiling out of my profile pic.

They reuse sub-systems so that they can save time and focus more on new innovation. Here they do because they wanna save themselves from innovation itself

 

[Lonewarrior]

Air launched 25kg missile can easily reach 10km.

But how the heck they want a ground launch missile to have enough fuel in that 25kg to reach 10km!?

I really would like to know what stuff these guys were smoking while bringing up these weight requirements.

Spike ER, an ATGM which can strike targets 8km away has a weight of 34kg and the launcher weighs another 30kg.
Thats 64kg in total.

Heck even I maintain a rudimentary reference sheet of missiles

Almost all the missiles that goes to 8km and beyond have their ranges in 30-50kg bracket

What the hell were they referring to while drafting requirements!?

 

[Lonewarrior]

@Lonewolf Previously, we thought the missile is having similar diameter to MRSAM (225m) + Booster but now this video says 350mm.

Well actually we all are correct; it has a diameter of both 225mm and 350mm.

Go through this

Except the fact that we know ERSAM's booster is very small compared to AD-1's

- this overall length of 1.1 meters matches that of Barak-ER booster. Barak-8 ER is 4.5m and Barak ER is 6; a booster of 1.5m.
- also the diameter where it's supposed to attach with the missile is roughly 250mm, which again matches closely with the 225mm of LRSAM

The "diameter where it's supposed to attach with a missile is roughly 250mm" not the whole booster but the narrower end of the booster. The diameter of the booster is listed in this schematic itself; 350mm.

So the actual missile is still of 225mm but the additional booster is of 350mm diameter.

 

[jai jaganath]

Elaborate this...

...coz I've first hand experience of all the other things...sedly except IIT...you mentioned

Where have u done ur ug

 

[Corvus Splendens]

@SwordOfDarkness this was what I was talking about archer ng or tapas was my guess

"Wants", "Considering", "Will", "Looking at optics", "Developing", "Any day now guys", "Guys we swear we're about to do something"

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

"Wants", "Considering", "Will", "Looking at optics", "Developing", "Any day now guys", "Guys we swear we're about to do something"

Hoga hoga jaruri hoga 100 saal thoda or do

 

[Lonewarrior]

Where have u done ur ug

 

[patriots]

Ia might want 4 th gen atgms...
Still ia using 2nd gen atgms

So there is scope for 3rd gen atgms

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

Elaborate this...

...coz I've first hand experience of all the other things...sedly except IIT...you mentioned

Project for an attack drone, cant give more details

 

[Lonewarrior]

Project for an attack drone, cant give more details

Everything can be sourced COTS

 

[Lonewarrior]

Electronics, batteries, motors and all yes, but this wasnt something you can go out and buy off the shelf.

I can buy a Chinese FPV chassis with BLDC motors and propellers under 10k. Another 10k and I'll have a flight control systems together with GPS. The only thing I'll be needing now is few grams of ammonium nitrate and some ball bearings.

Again, sorry cant give too much detail else I'll be doxxing myself

🥱

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

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bruh we arent making a grenade strapped to a drone
that wouldnt even get approval lmao, zero ingenuity there.
If all you need is grenade on a drone, 20k is a high price lol.

 

[Lonewarrior]

bruh we arent making a grenade strapped to a drone
that wouldnt even get approval lmao, zero ingenuity there.
If all you need is grenade on a drone, 20k is a high price lol.

Answer two questions
1. Fixed wing or Quadcopter?
2. Loitering or munition dropping?

 

[Lonewarrior]

zero ingenuity there

Fixed wing VTOL

but Im not doxxing myself

Well sadly you just did
Got everything that I needed to know